Re: #43 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe

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ليث ابو فاضل
@leithfadel
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Putin wants Assad to invite Trump to Damascus....this new year just gets more bizarre by the minute.

And I wish the ambassador of Cuba or North Korea start anti gov. protests in Berlin. For other countries seems to be quite normal behaviour. Other countries should start to act like its common for the west.

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Angelo John Gage
@AngeloJohnGage
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10m
When asked what imminent threat #Soleimani was, Trump gave his beliefs about scenarios of what could've happened. It is clear there was no threat and they just made it up. But who cares? He was just some Iranian guy. Who needs proof anymore? America's actions are always just!

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Was The Shootdown Of The Ukrainian Airplane Near Tehran Really A 'Mistake'?
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/01/was-the-shootdown-of-the-ukrainian-airplane-near-tehran-really-a-mistake.html#more

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The general in his press conference claimed that his organization is guilty:

   Our dear brothers at the Aviation Organization categorically rejected the possibility of a missile hitting the plane; they acted based on what they knew. I must say they were not guilty and have nothing to do with this. All the blame is on us; they’re innocent. The plane was also on its track, it made no mistake. It did the right thing, as did the Aviation Organization. Everyone did the right thing. Only one of our forces made a mistake. Since he is under our command, we are responsible for that. We must be accountable.

It is the right thing to say public relation wise.
But the incident itself is not a military error or mistake.

What one can and should criticize is the slow reaction of the Iranian military command after the incident happened.
It launched an internal investigation and told everyone to be silent about it.
It took the generals three days to look for an excuse that was impossible to find because everything that had happened did happen for rational reasons.
The air defense systems have to be dispersed to make them less easy to attack.
Communication failures are to be expected during a war.
The soldiers are trained to act autonomously when comm-failures happen.
They did what they had to do.

It is sad that this incident happened and that 176 lost their life.
But if one wants to find a person guilty for it one must look for the person who caused the whole situation.
That person is not the lowly sergeant who pressed the button.
That person is U.S. President Donald Trump.

[Zambeezi]

The #Trump lie about intelligence for the #Soleimani hit has now completely disintegrated. Esper admits he never saw intelligence show a threat to U.S. Embassies, but "shared the president's view that probably...they were going to go after our embassies." https://t.co/SFVTnEcnyF

— Gareth Porter (@GarethPorter) January 12, 2020

[Zambeezi]

On this day in 2013
Adra massacre
Jaish Al-Islam raid adra industrial town near Damascus and with help of some traitors, slaughtered about 200 civilian based on their sect, while hundreds were kidnapped and later paraded in cages in douma.

— Ali (@CoolHuh_) January 12, 2020

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The'Nimr'Tiger
@Souria4Syrians
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1m
BREAKING: Tehran protestors now turned into rioters as they begin to vandalize the streets and private property #IranProtests2020

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After the brief arrest of the British ambassador to Iran for formenting protests in Tehran, a violation of the basic codes of conduct for diplomats, Iranians protest outside the U.K. embassy.

The embassy is located on Bobby Sands street, named after the Irish republican martyr. pic.twitter.com/VI9turuZqH

— Carlos Slim (@CarlosOrtizMoha) January 12, 2020

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It means you’re going to lose. https://t.co/CVBKoKq8DT

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) January 12, 2020

[Zambeezi]

If you don't know 'who' Qasem Suleimani was...
Scott Ritter honors him with an excellent description of this national and international hero.

GrayZone
Aaron Matte interviews Scott Ritter: Pompeo is lying through his Teeth


Scott Ritter, a former Marine Corps intelligence officer, analyzes the increased White House coercion efforts and collapsing intelligence claims.
https://thegrayzone.com/2020/01/12/ex-us-intel-officer-pompeo-lying-through-his-teeth-on-iran/

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Does anyone know if the Ukrainian plane was the first one that took of from the airport? Some interesting question from the discussion unter the MoA latest article:

What was it that differentiated this plane from the others on his radar screen.(?)

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Press TV
@PressTV
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1h
#Soleimani assassination act of international terrorism: #Chomsky

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/01/12/615982/Chomsky-US-assassination-Soleimani

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Israeli F-16s are floating now...

F-16 ВВС Израиля pic.twitter.com/wzajgb4nwm

— Lost Armour (@lostarmour) January 12, 2020

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IRGC Says It Jammed MQ-9 Drones During Missile Attack On US Base In Iraq
https://southfront.org/irgc-says-it-jammed-mq-9-drones-during-missile-attack-on-us-base-in-iraq/



► "communication and dispatch of images by US MQ-9 drones were cut as IRGC’s missile attack was underway on Ain al-Assad military base."

► "special equipment we had prepared in advance was an important electronic warfare operation that started about 15 minutes after missile attack; we brought all drones flying over Ain al-Assad military base out of US troops’ control for some moments and cut their communication and image links which terrified the Americans,”

► "the most important need of the Americans was to understand the extent of the losses which were instantly monitored by the cameras of eight MQ-9 drones, and said,
“When the aircraft were out of US control their morale was much more lowered than the missile attacks.”

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"“We were not after killing anyone although tens of US troops have likely been killed and wounded and were transferred to Israel and Jordan on 9 sorties of C-130 flights,” he added, noting that had Iran intended to kill the American forces, it could have planned high casualty operations to kill 500 US military men in the first step and 4,000 to 5,000 others in the second and third phases within 48 hours.

General Hajizadeh said that 13 missiles were fired at the US bases on Tuesday, adding that Iran was ready to fire hundreds of missiles in the first hours and had prepared thousands of missiles for possible 3-day to week-long clashes between the two sides.

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Does anyone know if the Ukrainian plane was the first one that took of from the airport? Some interesting question from the discussion unter the MoA latest article:

What was it that differentiated this plane from the others on his radar screen.(?)

Afair as I remember from somewhere it wasn't the first, but their transponder was off ~40 seconds before the hit? Can not remember if it was hearsay or from a official source. I've read so much my head is spinning, >50 open tabs in the browser ..

If I find something I'll post it.

[The_Real_Mr_Anderson]

Casualties due to clashes between security and demonstrators in central Tehran #

العربية عاجل (@AlArabiya_Brk) Tweeted:
وقوع إصابات جراء مواجهات بين الأمن ومتظاهرين وسط طهران #العربية_عاجل https://t.co/a1vIGVFnOW https://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Brk/status/1216454490049646593?s=20

[The_Real_Mr_Anderson]

Israeli F-16s are floating now...

F-16 ВВС Израиля pic.twitter.com/wzajgb4nwm

— Lost Armour (@lostarmour) January 12, 2020

It's so if they get hit by birds they can claim it's a fighter duck

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Casualties due to clashes between security and demonstrators in central Tehran #

العربية عاجل (@AlArabiya_Brk) Tweeted:
وقوع إصابات جراء مواجهات بين الأمن ومتظاهرين وسط طهران #العربية_عاجل https://t.co/a1vIGVFnOW https://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Brk/status/1216454490049646593?s=20

Let's not forget...:

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Trump tweet in Farsi 'the most liked bot targeted Persian tweet' in history of Twitter
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-tweet-in-farsi-the-most-liked-persian-tweet-in-history-of-twitter

[The_Real_Mr_Anderson]

Casualties due to clashes between security and demonstrators in central Tehran #

العربية عاجل (@AlArabiya_Brk) Tweeted:
وقوع إصابات جراء مواجهات بين الأمن ومتظاهرين وسط طهران #العربية_عاجل https://t.co/a1vIGVFnOW https://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Brk/status/1216454490049646593?s=20

Let's not forget...:

Have you seen their statement about his death being a divine intervention ?

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US wants to discuss steps for Iran to become ‘normal country’ without precondition – Esper says amid ‘warnings’ from Washington
https://www.rt.com/usa/478072-us-discuss-iran-without-precondition/

"Asked whether there was a contradiction between calling the Iranian authorities “corrupt” and openly siding with anti-government protesters, yet expressing readiness to talk at the same time, Esper assured the show’s host that it was a perfectly fine thing to do."

On negotiations between U.S. and Iran, @EsperDoD acknowledged that Iran, once deemed "corrupt" is "still the legitimate government" and didn't rule out talks. Says, “The president has drawn no preconditions other than to say we're willing to meet with the Iranian government" pic.twitter.com/KjPtYfL79X

— Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) January 12, 2020

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Casualties due to clashes between security and demonstrators in central Tehran #

العربية عاجل (@AlArabiya_Brk) Tweeted:
وقوع إصابات جراء مواجهات بين الأمن ومتظاهرين وسط طهران #العربية_عاجل https://t.co/a1vIGVFnOW https://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Brk/status/1216454490049646593?s=20

Let's not forget...:

Have you seen their statement about his death being a divine intervention ?

Of course. They cheer Trump's action as well as al-Qaeda in Idlib.

[KneelB4Zod!]

Israel helped kill #Soleimani.

So Netanyahu, who has been lying about nonexistent nukes in #Iran for almost 30 years, and who deceived the US about #Iraq’s WMDs, also lied about Israel’s involvement in the murder of Soleimani.

Typical. Lying. Warmonger. https://t.co/L72kQIcdlU

— Sarah Abdallah (@sahouraxo) January 12, 2020

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the 'Soleimani-4 embassies imminence' claim disintegrates before yer very eyes.

NEWS: @EsperDOD tells @margbrennan that the Pentagon briefed the Gang of Eight - Congressional leadership - on intel that multiple embassies were targeted by Iranian-backed forces, but that the group "did not think that it should be released to the broader members of Congress." pic.twitter.com/ht55bP7TX9

— Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) January 12, 2020

[acz]

Loving the style of Oman's new monarch.

New king of #Oman Haitham bin Tariq humiliates #MBZ Mohamed bin Zayed of #UAE (the monster of Arabs and the head of evil against Muslims)

Will #MBZ and his crony #MBS start a new war in Oman?

Anyway a new soap in the middle east is about to start pic.twitter.com/q7d6L4vvfI

— QalQal (@Alqalqal) January 12, 2020

[KneelB4Zod!]

Loving the style of Oman's new monarch.  

New king of #Oman Haitham bin Tariq humiliates #MBZ Mohamed bin Zayed of #UAE (the monster of Arabs and the head of evil against Muslims)

Will #MBZ and his crony #MBS start a new war in Oman?

Anyway a new soap in the middle east is about to start pic.twitter.com/q7d6L4vvfI

— QalQal (@Alqalqal) January 12, 2020

Nice

The dagger reminds me Yemeni dagger, oftenly seen in Houthi related videos.

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Russian Air Force Su-35S escorting Russian Presidential plane during Putin last visit to Damascus in Syria. pic.twitter.com/4D3LVuWdRi

— Aldin (@aldin_ww) January 12, 2020

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Interesting:

How many of these sudden accidents do you need to cover up all the dead troops from Iran’s missile attack on Ain Al-Asad? https://t.co/uFfpV41Ajz pic.twitter.com/WGKdZBXWSR

— Zahra Shafei (@shafei_d) January 12, 2020

If Iran was correct then there will be about 40 such incidents in nearby future...

[Zambeezi]

Loving the style of Oman's new monarch.  

New king of #Oman Haitham bin Tariq humiliates #MBZ Mohamed bin Zayed of #UAE (the monster of Arabs and the head of evil against Muslims)

Will #MBZ and his crony #MBS start a new war in Oman?

Anyway a new soap in the middle east is about to start pic.twitter.com/q7d6L4vvfI

— QalQal (@Alqalqal) January 12, 2020

[Böhse Tante]

"Transponder stopped 30 seconds *before* the missile hit
Here is a presentation of the Revolutionary Guards. Note the point where the missile hit the plane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3e9g1oWNUA&feature=youtu.be&t=330

and compare with the point at which the transponder stopped transmitting data

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/image/12249294/0x0/1536/1123/e2547a6766430da163d2c2041681d9af/Lw/iran-plane-crash-gfx-jan-10.jpg

The time discrepancy between the two points, assuming a speed of 400 to 500 km/h, is about 30 seconds.

Something on the airplane has paralyzed the transponder (and possibly other electronics) first. The aircraft was then no longer identifiable. No wonder that the rocket gunner sounded the alarm and then shot it down a short time later.

Now I am curious about the evaluation of the flight recorders."

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

https://www.heise.de/forum/Telepolis/Kommentare/10-Sekunden-fuer-eine-Entscheidung-im-Kriegslaerm/Transponder-stoppte-30-Sekunden-bevor-die-Rakete-traf/posting-35920754/show/

Dunno if this is interesting.

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Pepe Escobar
6 hrs ·

IT AIN’T OVER TILL THE CYBER EXPERTS SING

THE STRIKE ON THE UKRAINIAN BOEING MAY HAVE BEEN THE CONSEQUENCE OF A CYBER ATTACK

Iranian radars disabled. Coordinates of a civilian Ukrainian aircraft changed – so it would look like an enemy aircraft.

The downing of the Ukrainian Boeing might have been the result of a US cyber attack.

Of course this is a - literally - explosive issue. I’ve been on it for a few hours now – but it’s Sunday, very hard to get any official comment. I sent messages to different players in Iran and Russia, awaiting response. One of them, from Iran, says “no discussion of a cyber-attack”, for now.

And yet IRGC Aerospace Commander Hajizadeh’s speech is a dead giveaway. He said a huge “anomaly” impaired Tehran’s air defense system, leading to the impression an enemy plane was approaching a sensitive military center – the root of the subsequent “human error”.

He also said that in the hours after the IRGC missile attack on the Ayn al-Asad base, the Americans had multiplied fighter jet flights near Iran’s aerial borders. Not only Tehran was targeted, but other strategic military centers as well.

One can imagine nerves fraying all across the spectrum.

One can read Hajizadeh’s explanation as a very subtle description of a cyber attack. Perhaps the IRGC does not have the full intel – yet. Perhaps they cannot reveal the full story of how they fell victim to a cyber attack – and that would explain the long gap between them acknowledging the hit and the Iranian government officially announcing it.

Russian military site avia.pro goes straight to the point. This is their English version, which is not as detailed as the report in Russian.

http://avia-pro.net/news/prichinoy-unichtozheniya-ukrainskogo-boeing-737-stali-amerikanskie-sredstva-reb?fbclid=IwAR0v6LgAxStLa9gyM0Csp9YCaQz38x314tqBmHRJE-MhS7voeSSATaP1coo

avia.pro are not amateurs. The report in Russian says that if that was cyberwarfare by the Americans, the coup matches point by point the destruction of an IL-20 near Lattakia in September 2018 - which Israeli fighter planes used as a shield.

avia.pro goes for the working hypothesis that the US military cyber attack modified not only the profile of the Ukro-Boeing. The Ukrainian pilot made a U-turn as well. So the cyber attack may have also targeted the Boeing’s navigation system. The Americans have done this many times before.

Malign Manatee Pompeo’s gloating is an indirect giveaway. He said it was an Iranian missile even before any serious investigation had started. And picking a Tehran-Kiev flight – among so many other flights that day – is a thing of beauty. It carries the possibility of blaming BOTH Iran and Russia (I posted about it; Russia was blamed by Ukrainians). And it carries the possibility of “indirect” collaboration by the Ukro-mafioso system – with US “rewards” showering afterwards.

What about “collateral damage”? There’s A LOT of chatter – of course, no smokin’ gun – that the Ukro-flight was a RAT FLIGHT, as in containing a planeload of dodgy intel types. The destination of the flight is also a dead giveaway. In previous instances, “Canadians” carrying false Canadian passports usually turn out to be CIA and/or MOSSAD operating in Ukraine.

NOTHING is beyond the appalling Exceptionalist racket – and NOTHING should be excluded from investigation. The Ukro-incident completely eviscerated from the news cycle the immense HUMILIATION suffered by the “greatest army in the history of the universe” in Iraq. In fact it could have been the HYBRID WAR AMERICAN RESPONSE - as it happened only five hours after the immense humiliation itself.

This is far from over: it’s an ongoing investigation. Experts are more than welcomed.

https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377/posts/10157820584511678