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BREAKING: Vessel Attacked Off Southern Coast of Yemen - Details to follow


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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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#BREAKING A vessel was attacked in the Gulf of Aden, near Mukalla, #Yemen: United Kingdom Maritime Trade Operations

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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#Iran offers all defense capabilities to #Iraq


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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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British ship comes under attack off the coast of #Yemen https://is.gd/4kNih1 #UK



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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by Slovák Sun May 17, 2020 7:25 pm

The Pentagon's top-secret X-37B drone shuttle was launched into orbit.
https://www.interfax.ru/world/709031


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Slovák wrote:The Pentagon's top-secret X-37B drone shuttle was launched into orbit.
https://www.interfax.ru/world/709031


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Wait, did they just show a separation image of a X-37B from its upper stage ? yes they did.... #X37B #OTV6 #USSF7

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by Böhse Tante Sun May 17, 2020 8:09 pm

I don't know what to think, comments on a German forum, it was all about this:

https://www.heise.de/forum/Telepolis/Kommentare/Nord-Stream-2-Russland-allein-gelassen/Wenn-USA-das-Echo-vertragen-koennen-IHK-warnt-vor-USA-und-deren-IT/posting-36681890/show/

"So there will be a decoupling from USA soon, with "EU Github", "EU Software Archive", "EU Operating System" ... so a complete IT without a single line of US code, which falls under ECCN, that is Kyptographie, AI, ...

Also US hardware manufacturers are out of the EU / China / Russia / Turkey / Venezuela business, same US banks with the dollar, see penalties against Deutsche Bank and BNP Paribas, UBS for dollar transactions.

The US dollar is therefore no longer a reserve currency. EU - China or EU - Russia transactions will then (have to) be settled without the dollar as conversion currency (see also Petrodollar).

Indices on EU / China / Russia stock exchanges will soon no longer be displayed in dollars."

https://www.heise.de/forum/Telepolis/Kommentare/Nord-Stream-2-Russland-allein-gelassen/Re-EU-Betriebssystem/posting-36683753/show/

"You still don't understand. Yanks are out! And for legal reasons. There is not the slightest chance that Germany, as export country #1 global, could stay with US technology. Every damn machine we ship around the world is being " cleared" from US Code."


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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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BREAKING: Iran’s supreme leader says U.S. won’t stay in Iraq and Syria; ‘they’ll be expelled’.


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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Post by 刘汉 Sun May 17, 2020 8:38 pm

Böhse Tante wrote:I don't know what to think, comments on a German forum, it was all about this:

https://www.heise.de/forum/Telepolis/Kommentare/Nord-Stream-2-Russland-allein-gelassen/Wenn-USA-das-Echo-vertragen-koennen-IHK-warnt-vor-USA-und-deren-IT/posting-36681890/show/

"So there will be a decoupling from USA soon, with "EU Github", "EU Software Archive", "EU Operating System" ... so a complete IT without a single line of US code, which falls under ECCN, that is Kyptographie, AI, ...

Also US hardware manufacturers are out of the EU / China / Russia / Turkey / Venezuela business, same US banks with the dollar, see penalties against Deutsche Bank and BNP Paribas, UBS for dollar transactions.

The US dollar is therefore no longer a reserve currency. EU - China or EU - Russia transactions will then (have to) be settled without the dollar as conversion currency (see also Petrodollar).

Indices on EU / China / Russia stock exchanges will soon no longer be displayed in dollars."

https://www.heise.de/forum/Telepolis/Kommentare/Nord-Stream-2-Russland-allein-gelassen/Re-EU-Betriebssystem/posting-36683753/show/

"You still don't understand. Yanks are out! And for legal reasons. There is not the slightest chance that Germany, as export country #1 global, could stay with US technology. Every damn machine we ship around the world is being " cleared" from US Code."


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I have some troubles with this article.
First I do not trust Heise, but I don't have exact information about Heise.
Second I have the impression, that the current "anti-American" line in European politics is not anti-American, it is more anti-Trump.
Third, officially the petro-dollar era was over with the beginning of fracking. Now Trump is withdrawing US troops from Saudi-Arabia. Of course this is a trap for Iran, but it seems, Trump is willing to throw Saudi-Arabia under the bus. Saudi-Arabia and Russia are either not willing or able to stop the fall of the oil-price. This is a huge danger for US. Suddenly the Saudi connection with 9/11 becomes more clear.
Forth, yes there is a huge difference in the general American idea, that their administration is responsible for the whole world. The reason for this is "common law" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law, https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Law). This is a complete different idea, what a legal system is, than we have on the European continent. Actually it is dangerous. It is very old and was developed in England. I am surprised, that this is mentioned in a German article, because normally we are told the Germans are on a "Sonderweg", but "common law" is the the Anglo-American or Anglo-Saxon "Sonderweg" par excellence. If true (but I doubt it and I believe it, when I see it), it would be a great step in the right direction to admit, that there is this huge difference between the Anglo-Saxons and the rest of the world. In this way, it would become visible, what the Anglo-Saxons are: Vikings and Normans attacking the civilized and cultured world.

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Post by 刘汉 Sun May 17, 2020 8:54 pm

刘汉 wrote: ...The reason for this is "common law" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law, https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Law). This is a complete different idea, what a legal system is, than we have on the European continent. ...

This is also behind the differences between Beijing and Hongkong. Hongkong is part of the "common law" system and Beijing of the continental law. Only with a legal revolution Hongkong can be integrated into China. UK and US will never accept this.

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Post by Böhse Tante Sun May 17, 2020 9:15 pm

刘汉 wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:I don't know what to think, comments on a German forum, it was all about this:

https://www.heise.de/forum/Telepolis/Kommentare/Nord-Stream-2-Russland-allein-gelassen/Wenn-USA-das-Echo-vertragen-koennen-IHK-warnt-vor-USA-und-deren-IT/posting-36681890/show/

"So there will be a decoupling from USA soon, with "EU Github", "EU Software Archive", "EU Operating System" ... so a complete IT without a single line of US code, which falls under ECCN, that is Kyptographie, AI, ...

Also US hardware manufacturers are out of the EU / China / Russia / Turkey / Venezuela business, same US banks with the dollar, see penalties against Deutsche Bank and BNP Paribas, UBS for dollar transactions.

The US dollar is therefore no longer a reserve currency. EU - China or EU - Russia transactions will then (have to) be settled without the dollar as conversion currency (see also Petrodollar).

Indices on EU / China / Russia stock exchanges will soon no longer be displayed in dollars."

https://www.heise.de/forum/Telepolis/Kommentare/Nord-Stream-2-Russland-allein-gelassen/Re-EU-Betriebssystem/posting-36683753/show/

"You still don't understand. Yanks are out! And for legal reasons. There is not the slightest chance that Germany, as export country #1 global, could stay with US technology. Every damn machine we ship around the world is being " cleared" from US Code."


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I asked for further explanation, but until now I got no answer.

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I have some troubles with this article.
First I do not trust Heise, but I don't have exact information about Heise.
Second I have the impression, that the current "anti-American" line in European politics is not anti-American, it is more anti-Trump.
Third, officially the petro-dollar era was over with the beginning of fracking. Now Trump is withdrawing US troops from Saudi-Arabia. Of course this is a trap for Iran, but it seems, Trump is willing  to throw Saudi-Arabia under the bus. Saudi-Arabia and Russia are either not willing or able to stop the fall of the oil-price. This is a huge danger for US. Suddenly the Saudi connection with 9/11 becomes more clear.
Forth, yes there is a huge difference in the general American idea, that their administration is responsible for the whole world. The reason for this is "common law" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law, https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Law). This is a complete different idea, what a legal system is, than we have on the European continent. Actually it is dangerous. It is very old and was developed in England. I am surprised, that this is mentioned in a German article, because normally we are told the Germans are on a "Sonderweg", but "common law" is the the Anglo-American or Anglo-Saxon "Sonderweg" par excellence. If true (but I doubt it and I believe it, when I see it), it would be a great step in the right direction to admit, that there is this huge difference between the Anglo-Saxons and the rest of the world. In this way, it would become visible, what the Anglo-Saxons are: Vikings and Normans attacking the civilized and cultured world.


Yes, but the Telepolis article was actually about Nordstream2.

The thread was about the urgent need to develop operating systems and software in the EU that are independent of US products.

These here were comments of a forum user. Apparently he works for a computer technology company. Their customers abroad want "US-free" devices, i.e. all software, operating systems etc. have to be removed before delivery. They surely don't do this for fun, but because they want to sell their goods. 

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Böhse Tante wrote:

Yes, but the Telepolis article was actually about Nordstream2.

The thread was about the urgent need to develop operating systems and software in the EU that are independent of US products.

These here were comments of a forum user. Apparently he works for a computer technology company. Their customers abroad want "US-free" devices, i.e. all software, operating systems etc. have to be removed before delivery. They surely don't do this for fun, but because they want to sell their goods. 

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What you don't understand is, that "common law" is the reason, why these companies cannot produce, what they want. Even German producers can be forced by US law courts to obey US laws. German law courts always recognize US judgements. You cannot accuse a foreigner in a German law court for something he has done abroad to a non-German. This does not fall under German legislation. But you can accuse a German in a US law court for something, he has done in Germany to another German. And even, if this was in full agreement with German law, he can be found guilty according to US law, German law courts will recognize this judgement. This is an obstacle to German industry, especially small industry, who cannot afford to pay a good US lawyer. So they will always loose. This is the problem.

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Now in Associated Press.

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Post by Profanity Sun May 17, 2020 11:54 pm

KneelB4Zod! wrote:
Profanity wrote:Maybe some dots to connect...IF we consider this virus to not be as deadly as made out to be...

1) China's economy has overtaken the US to be the top

2) This is a threat to the US's dominance

3) Numbers of deaths from the virus are being artificially inflated....ie deaths from other causes being blamed on the virus.

4) The (possibly unnecessary) lockdowns and furloughing of millions of staff....at cost to the tax payers (governments)

I am thinking that maybe the end game is that China will be blamed for this "crisis", and sued by ALL nations to cover the costs of ALL monies spent getting nations through this "Crisis" .....This will have the result of crippling China's economy and removing the threat to the US.


Just putting this out there

I think so as well. And this is the plan I think. Yet again we need to go back to the begining of the crisis. It did not start at the end of 2019. More and more clues prove that Military Games were ground zero. And I just can't believe that start of Military Games in Wuhan, on October 18, 2019, and Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise, were launched on the same day just by coincidence. Moreover, Event 201 was launched in New York, one of the most COVID19 affected cities in the world...




I just came across this....

Pompeo tells Salena Zito the world must 'impose costs on China' for coronavirus

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/pompeo-tells-salena-zito-the-world-must-impose-costs-on-china-for-coronavirus

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Post by Böhse Tante Sun May 17, 2020 11:56 pm

刘汉 wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:

Yes, but the Telepolis article was actually about Nordstream2.

The thread was about the urgent need to develop operating systems and software in the EU that are independent of US products.

These here were comments of a forum user. Apparently he works for a computer technology company. Their customers abroad want "US-free" devices, i.e. all software, operating systems etc. have to be removed before delivery. They surely don't do this for fun, but because they want to sell their goods. 

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pirat pirat

What you don't understand is, that "common law"  is the reason, why these companies cannot produce, what they want. Even German producers can be forced by US law courts to obey US laws. German law courts always recognize US judgements. You cannot accuse a foreigner in a German law court for something he has done abroad to a non-German. This does not fall under German legislation. But you can accuse a German in a US law court for something, he has done in Germany to another German. And even,  if this was in full agreement with German law, he can be found guilty according to US law, German law courts will recognize this judgement. This is an obstacle to German industry, especially small industry, who cannot afford to pay a good US lawyer. So they will always loose. This is the problem.

Ok, but it will lead to the result that companies will avoid US products. If the USA makes such problems for every little BS others will find alternatives. 

"FYI: 5G ist eine deutsche Entwicklung des Heinrich Hertz Institutes in Kooperation mit Huawei. Eine globale Win-Win Story."

So 5G is a Chinese-German "project". And I think these developments (leaving US dominance) is just starting. Then they can wipe their asses with common law. OK, then they will start a bigger war.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Post by 刘汉 Mon May 18, 2020 12:20 am

Böhse Tante wrote:
Ok, but it will lead to the result that companies will avoid US products. If the USA makes such problems for every little BS others will find alternatives. 

"FYI: 5G ist eine deutsche Entwicklung des Heinrich Hertz Institutes in Kooperation mit Huawei. Eine globale Win-Win Story."

So 5G is a Chinese-German "project". And I think these developments (leaving US dominance) is just starting. Then they can wipe their asses with common law.

This is exactly, what I hope. Germany should cooperate with Russia and China and ignore UK and US.

Böhse Tante wrote:
OK, then they will start a bigger war.

Twisted Evil

This is exactly, what I am afraid of.

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Khamenei can be so funny:



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Post by Böhse Tante Mon May 18, 2020 4:27 am

@刘汉


I must say I have not much knowledge about law "systems", more about natural science, economy, geopolitics or psychology. Buerocracy or administration things are absolutely boring and I usually forget it within minutes or faster. I mainly think in pictures and for me it is like grey fog.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Böhse Tante wrote:@刘汉


I must say I have not much knowledge about law "systems", more about natural science, economy, geopolitics or psychology. Buerocracy or administration things are absolutely boring and I usually forget it within minutes or faster. I mainly think in pictures and for me it is like grey fog.

pirat

The same with me (especially pictures). #52 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe - Page 24 3077205713
But more and more I saw this contradiction in many cases. So I read about it and many things became clear.

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According to the report by Hezbollah affiliated Al-Mayadeen News, Lebanon and their correspondent in Tehran, Iran. The Iranian Islamic Shura Council approves a draft resolution to confront Israeli attacks

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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