Re: #33 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe

[KneelB4Zod!]

Ali‏ @CoolHuh_ · 21 sek.
Reports about saudi fighters attack in al-bukmal yesterday are false.

[Mr Badger]

Red Alerts - Cumta
‏@CumtaAlertsEng

Red Alert [19/09/2019]:

18:16:
Nir Am

18:16:
Gavim, Sapir College, Sderot, Ibim, Erez, Mefalsim, Nir Am Shooting Range

https://twitter.com/CumtaAlertsEng/status/1174703857005408257

[Mr Badger]

Aurora Intel
‏@AuroraIntel

Reports of a number of explosions heard, unclear how many currently. #Gaza #Israel

https://twitter.com/AuroraIntel/status/1174704575594541058

EDIT:

Reports of 3 interceptions from Iron Dome and 1 impact, presumably in open area. #Gaza #Israel
https://twitter.com/AuroraIntel/status/1174705248268619782

Video of interception area.
https://twitter.com/AuroraIntel/status/1174705876583800832

[KneelB4Zod!]

Conflict News‏ @Conflicts · 3 min.
BREAKING: Incoming rocket alert sirens in southern Israeli communities near Gaza.

אזעקה [19/09/2019]:

18:16:
ניר עם

18:16:
גבים, מכללת ספיר, שדרות, איבים, ארז, מפלסים, מטווח ניר עם

נשלח דרך @CumtaAlerts pic.twitter.com/unGoKtpTcU

— כומתה - אזעקות צבע אדום בזמן אמת (@CumtaAlerts) 19. září 2019

[KneelB4Zod!]

Conflict News‏ @Conflicts · 2 min.
ISRAEL: A number of rockets from Gaza have been fired towards southern Israel. At least 1 is reported to have impacted Israeli territory.

[Zambeezi]

LobeLog
U.S. war on Afghanistan: Washington is working to create the appearance (as in Vietnam 1973) that it’s exiting on its own terms
https://lobelog.com/reflections-on-peace-in-afghanistan/

It's an updated equivalent of that “Agreement Ending the War and Restoring Peace in Vietnam”

Until last weekend, the signing of such an agreement seemed imminent.
Donald Trump and his envoy, former ambassador to Afghanistan Zalmay Khalilzad,
appeared poised to repeat the trick that President Richard Nixon and National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger pulled off in 1973 in Paris:
pause the war and call it peace.
Should fighting subsequently resume after a “decent interval,” it would no longer be America’s problem.

the Taliban was to promise not to provide sanctuary to anti-American terrorist groups, even though the Afghan branch of ISIS is already firmly lodged there.
This proviso would allow the Trump administration to claim that it had averted any possible recurrence of the 9/11 terror attacks.

Almost no one expects Afghan security forces to hold off a threat consisting of both the Taliban and ISIS.
So... as a final insult,
just as the Saigon government was excluded from U.S. negotiations with the North Vietnamese,
so, too, has the Western-installed government in Kabul been excluded from U.S. negotiations with its sworn enemy, the Taliban.

One way or another, in all likelihood, the deathwatch for the U.S.-backed Afghan government has now begun. One thing only is for sure. Having had their fill of Afghanistan, when the Americans finally leave, they won’t look back. In that sense, it will be Vietnam all over again.

despite a nominal cessation of hostilities, approximately 150,000 North Vietnamese regulars still occupied a large swathe of South Vietnamese territory — more or less the equivalent to agreeing to end World War II when there were still several German panzer tank divisions lurking in Belgium’s Ardennes Forest.

In effect, our message to our enemy and our ally was this: We’re outta here; you guys sort this out. In a bit more than two years, that sorting-out process would extinguish the Republic of Vietnam.

Back in 1973, North Vietnamese forces occupying parts of South Vietnam neither disarmed nor withdrew.

Should this new agreement be finalized, Taliban forces currently controlling or influencing significant swaths of Afghan territory will neither disarm nor withdraw.
Indeed, their declared intention is to continue fighting.

In Vietnam, Washington wasted 58,000 of those [US] lives for nothing.
In Afghanistan, we have lost more than 2,300 troops, with another 20,000 wounded, again for next to nothing.

something on the order of 800,000 Vietnamese took to open and unseaworthy boats to flee their country. According to estimates by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, between 200,000 and 400,000 boat people died at sea. Most of those who survived were destined to spend years in squalid refugee camps scattered throughout Southeast Asia. Back in Vietnam itself, some 300,000 former ARVN officers and South Vietnamese officials were imprisoned in so-called reeducation camps for up to 18 years. Reconciliation did not rank high on the postwar agenda of the unified country’s new leaders.

1.3 million Vietnamese were admitted to the United States as immigrants since the American War ended.

As to what will follow if Washington does succeed in cutting a deal with the Taliban, well, don’t count on President Trump (or his successor for that matter) welcoming anything like 1.3 million Afghan refugees to the United States once a “decent interval” has passed. Yet again, our position will be: we’re outta here; you guys sort this out.

Near the end of his famed novel, The Great Gatsby, F. Scott Fitzgerald described two of his privileged characters, Tom and Daisy, as “careless people” who “smashed up things and creatures” and then “retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness” to “let other people clean up the mess they had made.” That description applies to the United States as a whole, especially when Americans tire of a misguided war. We are a careless people. In Vietnam, we smashed up things and human beings with abandon, only to retreat into our money, leaving others to clean up the mess in a distinctly bloody fashion.

Count on us, probably sooner rather than later, doing precisely the same thing in Afghanistan.

[KneelB4Zod!]

LobeLog
U.S. war on Afghanistan: Washington is working to create the appearance (as in Vietnam 1973) that it’s exiting on its own terms
https://lobelog.com/reflections-on-peace-in-afghanistan/

It's an updated equivalent of that “Agreement Ending the War and Restoring Peace in Vietnam”

Until last weekend, the signing of such an agreement seemed imminent.
Donald Trump and his envoy, former ambassador to Afghanistan Zalmay Khalilzad,
appeared poised to repeat the trick that President Richard Nixon and National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger pulled off in 1973 in Paris:
pause the war and call it peace.
Should fighting subsequently resume after a “decent interval,” it would no longer be America’s problem.

the Taliban was to promise not to provide sanctuary to anti-American terrorist groups, even though the Afghan branch of ISIS is already firmly lodged there.
This proviso would allow the Trump administration to claim that it had averted any possible recurrence of the 9/11 terror attacks.

Almost no one expects Afghan security forces to hold off a threat consisting of both the Taliban and ISIS.
So... as a final insult,
just as the Saigon government was excluded from U.S. negotiations with the North Vietnamese,
so, too, has the Western-installed government in Kabul been excluded from U.S. negotiations with its sworn enemy, the Taliban.

One way or another, in all likelihood, the deathwatch for the U.S.-backed Afghan government has now begun. One thing only is for sure. Having had their fill of Afghanistan, when the Americans finally leave, they won’t look back. In that sense, it will be Vietnam all over again.

1.3 million Vietnamese were admitted to the United States as immigrants since the American War ended.

As to what will follow if Washington does succeed in cutting a deal with the Taliban, well, don’t count on President Trump (or his successor for that matter) welcoming anything like 1.3 million Afghan refugees to the United States once a “decent interval” has passed. Yet again, our position will be: we’re outta here; you guys sort this out.

Near the end of his famed novel, The Great Gatsby, F. Scott Fitzgerald described two of his privileged characters, Tom and Daisy, as “careless people” who “smashed up things and creatures” and then “retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness” to “let other people clean up the mess they had made.” That description applies to the United States as a whole, especially when Americans tire of a misguided war. We are a careless people. In Vietnam, we smashed up things and human beings with abandon, only to retreat into our money, leaving others to clean up the mess in a distinctly bloody fashion.

Count on us, probably sooner rather than later, doing precisely the same thing in Afghanistan.

"On their own terms"...

[shachalnur]

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/ex-secretary-of-state-netanyahu-would-provide-trump-with-misinformation/

tillerson speaking out on nethayahu trying to fool Trump into doing stuff for Israel.

he saiys he warned Trump, that Trump understood and took care of it.

Tillerson was secr. of state from feb 2017 untill march 2018.

so this allegedly happened from the beginning Trump became Pres.

if this story is true or not,the timing is interesting looking at Bibi's position in Israel now.

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[boris]

http://www.reuters.tv/l/P1zI/2019/09/19/u-s-defense-officials-hold-news-conference-on-military-action-in-gulf
Live briefing

[boris]

LIVE: UN Security Council holds session on Syria (ENG)

[Zambeezi]

[KneelB4Zod!]

#Iraq will not join anti #Iran maritime mission, rejects #Israel’s involvement

STORY: https://t.co/SJ79CwUFYw

VIDEO: Iranian tanker leaves Gibraltar after 6-week detention pic.twitter.com/7JNtXiUiyz

— RT (@RT_com) September 19, 2019

[KneelB4Zod!]

Ali
@CoolHuh_
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9 m
Breaking explosions south of Damascus

Ali
@CoolHuh_
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4 m
UAV downed

Ali
@CoolHuh_
·
1 m
Incident over jaramana


@Syrian_MC
@Syrian_MC
·
6 m
#Breaking
An unidentified UAV was downed north east of mount. Haramon south of #Syria

[KneelB4Zod!]

Ali
@CoolHuh_
·
9 m
State TV: UAV engaged and downed over aqraba - South Damascus

[Zambeezi]

Eh?https://t.co/gVsGN2WzPp

— RT (@RT_com) September 19, 2019

[KneelB4Zod!]

Guy Elster
@guyelster
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2 m
#BREAKING US issued visas allowing #Iran President Rouhani and Foreign Minister Zarif to travel to New York for UN meeting next week: Iran UN mission

[Zambeezi]

#Airbus ramps production in Tianjin and plans to assemble six A320's a monthhttps://t.co/sJJmXR4p0n

— RT (@RT_com) September 19, 2019

[E-V13]

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israeli radio interviews all kinds of people.

Blue and white doesn't accept leadership Nethanyahu of unity govt.

A govt like that will have a rotation of Prime ministers.(2 years one party ,2years another).

2 big problems:

there's a rotation agreement between Lapid and Gantz.

Lapid is still the blue and white boss behind the scenes because of his sugardaddy Noni Mozes.

who will be first prime minister ?

what will happen to Bibi's courtcases ?

So basically if Nethanyahu stays boss in likud,and likud supports him,there will be another round of elections.

Gantz's hacked phone ,allegedly, last year is biggest problem for Gantz in the background.

.

I read that Arab Joint List will recommend Gantz for PM. Do they get 61 seats and enough to form a centre-left government together with Democratic Union and Labor? Or only option for B&W now left is unity government with Likud without Netanyahu? I don't think Likud will take away support from Netanyahu right now.

[KneelB4Zod!]

Benny #Gantz rejects #Netanyahu-led unity government, while speaking in #TelAviv pic.twitter.com/XWKJkTotH8

— Ruptly (@Ruptly) September 19, 2019

[KneelB4Zod!]

From Damascus:

How low can you fly your toy mate ? pic.twitter.com/2jT12InULB

— @Syrian_MC (@Syrian_MC) September 19, 2019

[shachalnur]

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israeli radio interviews all kinds of people.

Blue and white doesn't accept leadership Nethanyahu of unity govt.

A govt like that will have a rotation of Prime ministers.(2 years one party ,2years another).

2 big problems:

there's a rotation agreement between Lapid and Gantz.

Lapid is still the blue and white boss behind the scenes because of his sugardaddy Noni Mozes.

who will be first prime minister ?

what will happen to Bibi's courtcases ?

So basically if Nethanyahu stays boss in likud,and likud supports him,there will be another round of elections.

Gantz's hacked phone ,allegedly, last year is biggest problem for Gantz in the background.

.

I read that Arab Joint List will recommend Gantz for PM. Do they get 61 seats and enough to form a centre-left government together with Democratic Union and Labor? Or only option for B&W now left is unity government with Likud without Netanyahu? I don't think Likud will take away support from Netanyahu right now.

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A government backed up by Arab party will not be acceptable.

so the blue and white bloc is only around 44 seats.

Biggest problem now is that Nethayahu and the other fascists and religious parties will negotiate as one group.

Any govt is impossibe like that unless Liberman jumps back to Bibi.

right now there's no solution.

there will be blabla for a few days,then a few weeks untill 3 october when the knesset comes together and will vote on a few things,like speaker of the parliament.

people expect shit to hit the fan around then.

so if nothing spectecular happens soon ,this is complete deadlock.

Looks like it was designed to be.

You can never trust the zio's ,they played this theatre many times before.

most observers are worried that Bibi won't cooperate in a controlled landing.

they are worried Bibi will force some kind of conflict to save his skin.

The question is then ,will the army generals obey?

That's the real fear in israel in the background,a split at the highest security level.

blue and white sounds cute ,but they are led by generals,the bloodhounds of Ziostan,and more or less represent the army.

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[Zambeezi]

Families of children killed in the Sandy Hook mass shooting released an emotional video showing how "back to school essentials" can help survive a school shooting pic.twitter.com/cj5C5lIWvA

— In the NOW (@IntheNow_tweet) September 19, 2019

Fascist Libs wanting gov't gun control (or they'll KILL YOU.)

[FoShizzle]

Russia Will Be The First To Deploy Hypersonic Missiles On Submarines
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-will-be-first-deploy-hypersonic-missiles-submarines


Earlier this year Russian sources told Forbes that submarine-launched hypersonic missile tests would be conducted in 2020.

Zircon
►can travel at Mach 8 to Mach 9 (6,090 to 6,851 mph).
►range is estimated at 620 miles
►can already be launched from aircraft, ships, ground-based launch systems
►soon submarines
vs
►Tomahawk Missile flies at Mach 0.75 (575 mph) with a range 1,550 miles.

US Navy has no countermeasures against hypersonic weapons.

Last year Russia's defense ministry touted a range of experimental weapons it said could counter and evade any US anti-aircraft defense measures, including a nuclear-powered missile that could traverse the globe endlessly.

For a glimpse of a land-based launch of a Russian hypersonic missile, Russia-24 published a video from the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation that shows a successful launch of a new hypersonic interceptor missile.

На полигоне Сары-Шаган (Республики Казахстан) боевым расчетом войск противовоздушной и противоракетной обороны ВКС успешно проведен очередной испытательный пуск новой ракеты российской системы противоракетной обороны (ПРО)#Минобороны #ВКС #ПРО #Казахстан #СарыШаган pic.twitter.com/mhtveLcJ3N

— Минобороны России (@mod_russia) June 4, 2019

[KneelB4Zod!]

Fo!

[KneelB4Zod!]

Y.N.M.S
@nm79797979
·
1 m
2 drones shot down Syrian AD...south Syria...Aqraba...

[E-V13]

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israeli radio interviews all kinds of people.

Blue and white doesn't accept leadership Nethanyahu of unity govt.

A govt like that will have a rotation of Prime ministers.(2 years one party ,2years another).

2 big problems:

there's a rotation agreement between Lapid and Gantz.

Lapid is still the blue and white boss behind the scenes because of his sugardaddy Noni Mozes.

who will be first prime minister ?

what will happen to Bibi's courtcases ?

So basically if Nethanyahu stays boss in likud,and likud supports him,there will be another round of elections.

Gantz's hacked phone ,allegedly, last year is biggest problem for Gantz in the background.

.

I read that Arab Joint List will recommend Gantz for PM. Do they get 61 seats and enough to form a centre-left government together with Democratic Union and Labor? Or only option for B&W now left is unity government with Likud without Netanyahu? I don't think Likud will take away support from Netanyahu right now.

.

A government backed up by Arab party will not be acceptable.

so the blue and white bloc is only around 44 seats.

Biggest problem now is that Nethayahu and the other fascists and religious parties will negotiate as one group.

Any govt is impossibe like that unless Liberman jumps back to Bibi.

right now there's no solution.

there will be blabla for a few days,then a few weeks untill 3 october when the knesset comes together and will vote on a few things,like speaker of the parliament.

people expect shit to hit the fan around then.

so if nothing spectecular happens soon ,this is complete deadlock.

Looks like it was designed to be.

You can never trust the zio's ,they played this theatre many times before.

most observers are worried that Bibi won't cooperate in a controlled landing.

they are worried Bibi will force some kind of conflict to save his skin.

The question is then ,will the army generals obey?

That's the real fear in israel in the background,a split at the highest security level.

blue and white sounds cute ,but they are led by generals,the bloodhounds of Ziostan,and more or less represent the army.

.

I see. So Netanyahu's saying either a government led by him or with anti-zionist arab parties is more propaganda. I read he wanted to start a conflict before the elections but was stopped. Quite interesting what he would do when he is more cornered.

Yeah, all are Zionists but looks like Arabs would choose Blue and White the lesser evil. At least Gantz is not going to annex parts of West Bank for now.

What about Labor, they are a dead party now right, barely managed to get in. Did their downfall start after they signed the Oslo 1993 peace accords?

[KneelB4Zod!]

Al-Masdar News
@TheArabSource
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25 m
Syrian Army begins new operation against ISIS near #Palmyra https://aml.ink/NwnY7 #Syria

[FoShizzle]

I want to say thank you to everybody who has contributed so much amazing content lately. I love that so many excellent people have found their way here.


And hi there, Zod!

[E-V13]

Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson says Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu used "misinformation" to persuade Trump. "We later exposed it to the president so he understood, ‘You’ve been played,’” said Tillerson.

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/tillerson-says-netanyahu-used-misinformation-to-persuade-trump-1.7865372

Like Tillerson once said: "Fucking moron".

[KneelB4Zod!]

Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson says Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu used "misinformation" to persuade Trump. "We later exposed it to the president so he understood, ‘You’ve been played,’” said Tillerson.

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/tillerson-says-netanyahu-used-misinformation-to-persuade-trump-1.7865372

Like Tillerson once said: "Fucking moron".

Exactly.