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Post by Zambeezi Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:35 pm

Erdogan warns that Turkey may terminate talks on joining EU
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Post by Böhse Tante Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:20 pm

Didn't find something in English, Offenbach is a direct neighbour to Frankfurt:

Arrests and house searches
Offenbach IS supporters alleged to have planned attack
12.11.19

https://www.hessenschau.de/politik/offenbacher-is-anhaenger-sollen-anschlag-geplant-haben,is-anhanger-offenbach-100.html

"The 24-year-old main suspect - a German citizen of Macedonian origin - had already procured "basic parts for the manufacture of explosives" and searched the Internet for firearms, it continued. His two alleged accomplices are said to be Turkish citizens."

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Post by Böhse Tante Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:00 pm

Perhaps you already know it, but The interesting aspect with Kosovo and MSF:

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/449431-syria-white-helmets-organ-traders/

You remember the many syringes ...

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

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Ex-President of Bolivia Evo Morales arrived in Mexico City, he was met by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Mexico Marcelo Ebrard at the plane's ramp. Morales got off the ramp and waved to reporters. The former vice president arrived in the country with him.


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Damn it, Turks are advancing at Tall Tamr front again in NE Syria. There are reports that they cut the town from eastern side and captured bunch of villages around it.

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"Democracy" imposed by the US-backed coup in Bolivia: Army and militants threaten protersters who back president Evo Morrales, say "We are going to shoot them":


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Matjaz wrote:Damn it, Turks are advancing at Tall Tamr front again in NE Syria. There are reports that they cut the town from eastern side and captured bunch of villages around it.


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Post by Martial Rokossovsky Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:16 pm

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This situation is very bad, and it's coordinated by the empire as well; Turkey mounts large offensive pressing SAA, Empire is all over Eastern Syria, Coup occurs in Bolivia; never underestimate these people. They have a plan, they act on it. Overall situation is very disadvantaged and full of weakness for the resistance, RuF. is left with bull shit job of being between Syria and Turkey, and in northern sliver of country, Damascus again attacked by Israel, and nothing will be done about it, pure weakness. Bolivia falls, yet another country down to Empire. Serbia is surrounded by Empire, if Empire cut off airspace to Serbia, how RuF. going to supply them? Donbass still being shelled. China allows it's citizens to be burned alive by thugs right in Hong Kong... just blistering weakness, what is imagined, that The Empire thinks of this, that if RuF. and China allow such aggressions and provocations to be shown right in their own back yards, e.g. Donbass and Hong Kong, then they will allow anything, and from the looks of it, they will. Snap drills in Altai Republic don't frighten anyone. I tell you this, next logical move for Empire will be to annex Eastern Syria in form of a Kurdish state, and use oil revenues to fund it, and you know what, nobody will do anything. There it is, this is what years of 'long game' and getting slapped in face over and over bring. This is why Serbia is surrounded by Empire. This is why Empire makes threat against Kaliningrad Oblast, knowing nothing in return will be coming. This is why Zionist Entity bombs Syria any time they get an itch, no Not 'long game' not 'chess match', just weakness

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Post by KneelB4Zod! Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:31 pm



It's always great for democracy if democratically elected person is ousted by a gun wielding violent mob. Hope Trump gonna enjoy his impeachment as well as he enjoys Morales' overthrowing.


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Post by Matjaz Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:35 pm

Martial Rokossovsky wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
This situation  is very bad, and it's coordinated by the empire as well; Turkey mounts large offensive pressing SAA, Empire is all over Eastern Syria, Coup occurs in Bolivia; never underestimate these people.  They have a plan, they act on it.  Overall situation is very disadvantaged and full of weakness for the resistance, RuF. is left with bull shit job of being between Syria and Turkey, and in northern sliver of country, Damascus again attacked by Israel, and nothing will be done about it, pure weakness.  Bolivia falls, yet another country down to Empire.  Serbia is surrounded by Empire, if Empire cut off airspace to Serbia, how RuF. going to supply them?  Donbass still being shelled.  China allows it's citizens to be burned alive by thugs right in Hong Kong... just blistering weakness, what is imagined, that The Empire thinks of this, that if RuF. and China allow such aggressions and provocations to be shown right in their own back yards, e.g. Donbass and Hong Kong, then they will allow anything, and from the looks of it, they will.  Snap drills  in Altai Republic don't frighten anyone.  I tell you this, next logical move for Empire will be to annex Eastern Syria in form of a Kurdish state, and use oil revenues to fund it, and you know what, nobody will do anything.  There it is, this is what years of 'long game' and getting slapped in face over and over bring.  This is why Serbia is surrounded by Empire.  This is why Empire makes threat against Kaliningrad Oblast, knowing nothing in return will be coming.  This is why Zionist Entity bombs Syria any time they get an itch, no  Not 'long game'  not 'chess match', just weakness

Relax, you're exaggerating. Looking on it long term, things look fine really. Have some faith Wink

Serbia is doing alright, Donbass is surviving, nothing changes in this aspect, I see no weakness. Its not like Serbia is in a conflict with EU atm. You say nobody will do anything, what is there to be done? Assad is still expanding his territory, slow very slow but its expanding. Few Israeli strikes are no reason for a downer, they never were lol. And if we lose some banana republic in latin America, seriously who gives a fukk..
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This situation  is very bad, and it's coordinated by the empire as well; Turkey mounts large offensive pressing SAA, Empire is all over Eastern Syria, Coup occurs in Bolivia; never underestimate these people.  They have a plan, they act on it.  Overall situation is very disadvantaged and full of weakness for the resistance, RuF. is left with bull shit job of being between Syria and Turkey, and in northern sliver of country, Damascus again attacked by Israel, and nothing will be done about it, pure weakness.  Bolivia falls, yet another country down to Empire.  Serbia is surrounded by Empire, if Empire cut off airspace to Serbia, how RuF. going to supply them?  Donbass still being shelled.  China allows it's citizens to be burned alive by thugs right in Hong Kong... just blistering weakness, what is imagined, that The Empire thinks of this, that if RuF. and China allow such aggressions and provocations to be shown right in their own back yards, e.g. Donbass and Hong Kong, then they will allow anything, and from the looks of it, they will.  Snap drills  in Altai Republic don't frighten anyone.  I tell you this, next logical move for Empire will be to annex Eastern Syria in form of a Kurdish state, and use oil revenues to fund it, and you know what, nobody will do anything.  There it is, this is what years of 'long game' and getting slapped in face over and over bring.  This is why Serbia is surrounded by Empire.  This is why Empire makes threat against Kaliningrad Oblast, knowing nothing in return will be coming.  This is why Zionist Entity bombs Syria any time they get an itch, no  Not 'long game'  not 'chess match', just weakness

Relax, you're exaggerating. Looking on it long term, things look fine really. Have some faith Wink No, I'm not 'exaggerating' one bit, these are facts, possibly you don't understand them, but they are fact nonetheless.

Serbia is doing alright, Donbass is surviving, nothing changes in this aspect, I see no weakness. Its not like Serbia is in a conflict with EU atm. You say nobody will do anything, what is there to be done? Assad is still expanding his territory, slow very slow but its expanding. Few Israeli strikes are no reason for a downer, they never were lol. And if we lose some banana republic in latin America, seriously who gives a fukk..
No I'm not exaggerating one bit, possibly you don't understand facts but facts are facts nonetheless. You tell those people who have been enduring years of bombs by Ukrops that they are 'surviving' I'm sure they will be comforted by your concern. You tell the Syrian Army who has had people killed by the Israelis that it's ok, and not worth getting upset about I'm sure they will find your empathy refreshing, you tell the people in Bolivia that suffered an Empire coups and had their elected leader deposed that it's all ok. As for Serbia, they are now surrounded by Empire, but to you, thats 'ok'. You say 'long term everything looks fine' Yes for the EMPIRE it sure does. Wow what would the place look like to you if it were not 'fine' Empire troops waving their flag on the Kremlin. Just wow.

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Martial Rokossovsky wrote:
Matjaz wrote:
Martial Rokossovsky wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
This situation  is very bad, and it's coordinated by the empire as well; Turkey mounts large offensive pressing SAA, Empire is all over Eastern Syria, Coup occurs in Bolivia; never underestimate these people.  They have a plan, they act on it.  Overall situation is very disadvantaged and full of weakness for the resistance, RuF. is left with bull shit job of being between Syria and Turkey, and in northern sliver of country, Damascus again attacked by Israel, and nothing will be done about it, pure weakness.  Bolivia falls, yet another country down to Empire.  Serbia is surrounded by Empire, if Empire cut off airspace to Serbia, how RuF. going to supply them?  Donbass still being shelled.  China allows it's citizens to be burned alive by thugs right in Hong Kong... just blistering weakness, what is imagined, that The Empire thinks of this, that if RuF. and China allow such aggressions and provocations to be shown right in their own back yards, e.g. Donbass and Hong Kong, then they will allow anything, and from the looks of it, they will.  Snap drills  in Altai Republic don't frighten anyone.  I tell you this, next logical move for Empire will be to annex Eastern Syria in form of a Kurdish state, and use oil revenues to fund it, and you know what, nobody will do anything.  There it is, this is what years of 'long game' and getting slapped in face over and over bring.  This is why Serbia is surrounded by Empire.  This is why Empire makes threat against Kaliningrad Oblast, knowing nothing in return will be coming.  This is why Zionist Entity bombs Syria any time they get an itch, no  Not 'long game'  not 'chess match', just weakness

Relax, you're exaggerating. Looking on it long term, things look fine really. Have some faith Wink No, I'm not 'exaggerating' one bit, these are facts, possibly you don't understand them, but they are fact nonetheless.

Serbia is doing alright, Donbass is surviving, nothing changes in this aspect, I see no weakness. Its not like Serbia is in a conflict with EU atm. You say nobody will do anything, what is there to be done? Assad is still expanding his territory, slow very slow but its expanding. Few Israeli strikes are no reason for a downer, they never were lol. And if we lose some banana republic in latin America, seriously who gives a fukk..
 No I'm not exaggerating one bit, possibly you don't understand facts but facts are facts nonetheless.  You tell those people who have been enduring years of bombs by Ukrops that they are 'surviving' I'm sure they will be comforted by your concern.  You tell the Syrian Army who has had people killed by the Israelis that it's ok, and not worth getting upset about I'm sure they will find your empathy refreshing, you tell the people in Bolivia that suffered an Empire coups and  had their elected leader deposed that it's all ok.  As for Serbia, they are now surrounded by Empire, but to you, thats 'ok'.  You say 'long term everything looks fine'  Yes for the EMPIRE it sure does.  Wow what would the place look like to you if it were not 'fine' Empire troops waving their flag on the Kremlin.  Just wow.  


I like to think things are "Dragging" along for a reason, Maybe an economic collapse is very near, which would weaken the empire.....and maybe Russia and China are using the time to strengthen ?

Maybe just wishful thinking on my behalf.

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Martial Rokossovsky wrote:
Matjaz wrote:
Martial Rokossovsky wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
This situation  is very bad, and it's coordinated by the empire as well; Turkey mounts large offensive pressing SAA, Empire is all over Eastern Syria, Coup occurs in Bolivia; never underestimate these people.  They have a plan, they act on it.  Overall situation is very disadvantaged and full of weakness for the resistance, RuF. is left with bull shit job of being between Syria and Turkey, and in northern sliver of country, Damascus again attacked by Israel, and nothing will be done about it, pure weakness.  Bolivia falls, yet another country down to Empire.  Serbia is surrounded by Empire, if Empire cut off airspace to Serbia, how RuF. going to supply them?  Donbass still being shelled.  China allows it's citizens to be burned alive by thugs right in Hong Kong... just blistering weakness, what is imagined, that The Empire thinks of this, that if RuF. and China allow such aggressions and provocations to be shown right in their own back yards, e.g. Donbass and Hong Kong, then they will allow anything, and from the looks of it, they will.  Snap drills  in Altai Republic don't frighten anyone.  I tell you this, next logical move for Empire will be to annex Eastern Syria in form of a Kurdish state, and use oil revenues to fund it, and you know what, nobody will do anything.  There it is, this is what years of 'long game' and getting slapped in face over and over bring.  This is why Serbia is surrounded by Empire.  This is why Empire makes threat against Kaliningrad Oblast, knowing nothing in return will be coming.  This is why Zionist Entity bombs Syria any time they get an itch, no  Not 'long game'  not 'chess match', just weakness

Relax, you're exaggerating. Looking on it long term, things look fine really. Have some faith Wink No, I'm not 'exaggerating' one bit, these are facts, possibly you don't understand them, but they are fact nonetheless.

Serbia is doing alright, Donbass is surviving, nothing changes in this aspect, I see no weakness. Its not like Serbia is in a conflict with EU atm. You say nobody will do anything, what is there to be done? Assad is still expanding his territory, slow very slow but its expanding. Few Israeli strikes are no reason for a downer, they never were lol. And if we lose some banana republic in latin America, seriously who gives a fukk..
 No I'm not exaggerating one bit, possibly you don't understand facts but facts are facts nonetheless.  You tell those people who have been enduring years of bombs by Ukrops that they are 'surviving' I'm sure they will be comforted by your concern.  You tell the Syrian Army who has had people killed by the Israelis that it's ok, and not worth getting upset about I'm sure they will find your empathy refreshing, you tell the people in Bolivia that suffered an Empire coups and  had their elected leader deposed that it's all ok.  As for Serbia, they are now surrounded by Empire, but to you, thats 'ok'.  You say 'long term everything looks fine'  Yes for the EMPIRE it sure does.  Wow what would the place look like to you if it were not 'fine' Empire troops waving their flag on the Kremlin.  Just wow.  

You seem like a person who is always frightened by something. Always on a lookout for a danger and worst possible outcome, chasing shadows. Are you from USA? Smile

So what are we supposed to tell to people of Donbass? You got any idea?

How is Serbia surrounded when Serbia is in the middle of its own region, people, culture. There are no enemies bordering Serbia only imaginary political and military blocks. You understand me? Croatia and Serbia are no allies but they are economical partners who have a dialogue on all levels not just diplomatic. People mingle, cross borders and there are no conflicts whatsoever. So how is Serbia surrounded, by what? If you're afraid that Serbia will adopt social standards and embrace values of the empire as you call it, then have no fear. It will never stick on Serbians, it will never stick on Croatians either and they are the member of the empire.

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Post by KneelB4Zod! Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:15 pm

Martial Rokossovsky wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
This situation  is very bad, and it's coordinated by the empire as well; Turkey mounts large offensive pressing SAA, Empire is all over Eastern Syria, Coup occurs in Bolivia; never underestimate these people.  They have a plan, they act on it.  Overall situation is very disadvantaged and full of weakness for the resistance, RuF. is left with bull shit job of being between Syria and Turkey, and in northern sliver of country, Damascus again attacked by Israel, and nothing will be done about it, pure weakness.  Bolivia falls, yet another country down to Empire.  Serbia is surrounded by Empire, if Empire cut off airspace to Serbia, how RuF. going to supply them?  Donbass still being shelled.  China allows it's citizens to be burned alive by thugs right in Hong Kong... just blistering weakness, what is imagined, that The Empire thinks of this, that if RuF. and China allow such aggressions and provocations to be shown right in their own back yards, e.g. Donbass and Hong Kong, then they will allow anything, and from the looks of it, they will.  Snap drills  in Altai Republic don't frighten anyone.  I tell you this, next logical move for Empire will be to annex Eastern Syria in form of a Kurdish state, and use oil revenues to fund it, and you know what, nobody will do anything.  There it is, this is what years of 'long game' and getting slapped in face over and over bring.  This is why Serbia is surrounded by Empire.  This is why Empire makes threat against Kaliningrad Oblast, knowing nothing in return will be coming.  This is why Zionist Entity bombs Syria any time they get an itch, no  Not 'long game'  not 'chess match', just weakness

Well, regarding Syria I have theory that did not failed me yet and I shared it several times already. What is going on in north-eastern Syria is job approved on by Turkey and Russia, with silent support of Damascus. Turkish backed jihadists being grinded off. And former US collaborators, the SDF, as well. Turks don't want the jihadists and Damascus doesn't want traitors. Everything goes according the plan, it's almost one killed jihadist on one killed US pawn. Deir Ezzor, it's oil rich parts, will be abandoned by the US occupation forces as wel as they fled from the border areas, I have no doubt about that. They are grasping at straws over there. Bolivia is lost probably. That's true. If the people won't arm themselves (and, in fact, plunge the country into the civil war) then there is nothing that can save the situation I guess. On other hand, Venezuela and Chile doing great imho. There are protests at Ecuador and numerous other countries. Lula was released in Brazil...

Donbass being shelled and shells back. Yesterday hoholish truck was destroyed. It's position war, quite similar what's going on in Karabakh for example.

Let's not forget other very important developements. For example very successful Africa summit in Sochi. Also admitted failure of attempt to thwart Russian defense industry business (and failure of sanctions overall).

There are two quotes that I tend to see very relevant:

“Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”

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"Fight Your Enemy Where They Aren't"

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Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Post by Martial Rokossovsky Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:19 pm

Matjaz wrote:
Martial Rokossovsky wrote:
Matjaz wrote:
Martial Rokossovsky wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
This situation  is very bad, and it's coordinated by the empire as well; Turkey mounts large offensive pressing SAA, Empire is all over Eastern Syria, Coup occurs in Bolivia; never underestimate these people.  They have a plan, they act on it.  Overall situation is very disadvantaged and full of weakness for the resistance, RuF. is left with bull shit job of being between Syria and Turkey, and in northern sliver of country, Damascus again attacked by Israel, and nothing will be done about it, pure weakness.  Bolivia falls, yet another country down to Empire.  Serbia is surrounded by Empire, if Empire cut off airspace to Serbia, how RuF. going to supply them?  Donbass still being shelled.  China allows it's citizens to be burned alive by thugs right in Hong Kong... just blistering weakness, what is imagined, that The Empire thinks of this, that if RuF. and China allow such aggressions and provocations to be shown right in their own back yards, e.g. Donbass and Hong Kong, then they will allow anything, and from the looks of it, they will.  Snap drills  in Altai Republic don't frighten anyone.  I tell you this, next logical move for Empire will be to annex Eastern Syria in form of a Kurdish state, and use oil revenues to fund it, and you know what, nobody will do anything.  There it is, this is what years of 'long game' and getting slapped in face over and over bring.  This is why Serbia is surrounded by Empire.  This is why Empire makes threat against Kaliningrad Oblast, knowing nothing in return will be coming.  This is why Zionist Entity bombs Syria any time they get an itch, no  Not 'long game'  not 'chess match', just weakness

Relax, you're exaggerating. Looking on it long term, things look fine really. Have some faith Wink No, I'm not 'exaggerating' one bit, these are facts, possibly you don't understand them, but they are fact nonetheless.

Serbia is doing alright, Donbass is surviving, nothing changes in this aspect, I see no weakness. Its not like Serbia is in a conflict with EU atm. You say nobody will do anything, what is there to be done? Assad is still expanding his territory, slow very slow but its expanding. Few Israeli strikes are no reason for a downer, they never were lol. And if we lose some banana republic in latin America, seriously who gives a fukk..
 No I'm not exaggerating one bit, possibly you don't understand facts but facts are facts nonetheless.  You tell those people who have been enduring years of bombs by Ukrops that they are 'surviving' I'm sure they will be comforted by your concern.  You tell the Syrian Army who has had people killed by the Israelis that it's ok, and not worth getting upset about I'm sure they will find your empathy refreshing, you tell the people in Bolivia that suffered an Empire coups and  had their elected leader deposed that it's all ok.  As for Serbia, they are now surrounded by Empire, but to you, thats 'ok'.  You say 'long term everything looks fine'  Yes for the EMPIRE it sure does.  Wow what would the place look like to you if it were not 'fine' Empire troops waving their flag on the Kremlin.  Just wow.  

You seem like a person who is always frightened by something. Always on a lookout for a danger and worst possible outcome, chasing shadows. Are you from USA? Smile  

So what are we supposed to tell to people of Donbass? You got any idea?

How is Serbia surrounded when Serbia is in the middle of its own region, people, culture. There are no enemies bordering Serbia only imaginary political and military blocks. You understand me? Croatia and Serbia are no allies but they are economical partners who have a dialogue on all levels not just diplomatic. People mingle, cross borders and there are no conflicts whatsoever. So how is Serbia surrounded, by what? If you're afraid that Serbia will adopt social standards and embrace values of the empire as you call it, then have no fear. It will never stick on Serbians, it will never stick on Croatians either and they are the member of the empire.

{{{{ You make this too easy friend, Serbia is surrounded by NATO, is that not so?  Did not NATO bomb Serbia for 78  days straight? is this not so...  Remember a little place called Kosovo hmm.  That used to be part of Serbia.  As for 'what to do in Donbass'  Well my esteemed fellow board member first thing I would NOT do, is NOT to tell brave fighters of Donbass to refrain from shooting back at Ukrop NAZIs who shell them night and day.  The fool or traitor(s) who gave the order not to defend themselves from Ukrop militias should be removed immediately.  I have to say, I think you are very naive person.  If one does not stand up to  aggressions, it only invites more of them, it is really as simple as that.  Let me say this about Bolivia whom you so childishly label 'another banana republic'  thats still one vote in UN is it not?  What you don't see in your utopian induced state, is that incrementally, The Empire is advancing... You think not, really.  This unrest in Hong Kong is all staged, and the reaction is gauged and will be input for further endeavours.    You remind me of the Stavka  in early June of 1941 who said, 'relax the Germans are not coming, that is just alarmist thinking'  Little by little, the pieces are being put into place, and I don't take the drug 'hopium'


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Post by KneelB4Zod! Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:20 pm

This is exactly why I'm quite optimistic:



Give it one or two generations and there will be nothing left of the "western civilization"...

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KneelB4Zod! wrote:This is exactly why I'm quite optimistic:



Give it one or two generations and there will be nothing left of the "western civilization"...

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Post by Böhse Tante Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:26 pm

@Zod

There are two quotes that I tend to see very relevant:

“Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”

and

"Fight Your Enemy Where They Aren't"

.............

My thoughts are alike (It's a tarp ... you remember?). Did you post about a RU sub spotted near Israel? Reminds of a "cat and mouse game".

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

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Post by KneelB4Zod! Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:30 pm

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Just im: Bolivian Parliamentary session debating the "resignation" of Evo Morales has been suspended for lack of quorum http://es.rt.com/75ab
#BoliviaCoup


https://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/333443-suspenden-sesion-parlamento-bolivia-renuncia-evo-morales

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Post by Matjaz Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:44 pm

Martial Rokossovsky wrote:

 You make this too easy friend, Serbia is surrounded by NATO, is that not so?  Did not NATO bomb Serbia for 78  days straight? is this not so...  Remember a little place called Kosovo hmm.  That used to be part of Serbia.  As for 'what to do in Donbass'  Well my esteemed fellow board member first thing I would NOT do, is NOT to tell brave fighters of Donbass to refrain from shooting back at Ukrop NAZIs who shell them night and day.  The fool or traitor(s) who gave the order not to defend themselves from Ukrop militias should be removed immediately.  I have to say, I think you are very naive person.  If one does not stand up to  aggressions, it only invites more of them, it is really as simple as that.  Let me say this about Bolivia whom you so childishly label 'another banana republic'  thats still one vote in UN is it not?  What you don't see in your utopian induced state, is that incrementally, The Empire is advancing... You think not, really.  This unrest in Hong Kong is all staged, and the reaction is gauged and will be input for further endeavours.    You remind me of the Stavka  in early June of 1941 who said, 'relax the Germans are not coming, that is just alarmist thinking'  Little by little, the pieces are being put into place, and I don't take the drug 'hopium'

Alright, so tell me what has changed after year 2000 in regard of Russias actions, since you're mentioning weakness? And even better question, what you think Russia should do regarding Serbia? You think shedding blood of eastern Europeans would help solving this matter? You think in order for Russia not to "look weak" they should start or support a new war in the Balkans? Is that it?

Because I don't see Serbia in worse condition then it was back in 1999 when NATO striked. In fact it is in much better condition today as it was back then. And Serbia today is still without Kosovo but you think starting a war down there would be good, just so that RUssia doesn't look weak?? So again, what has changed for Russia since 1999, what advantages did Russia get since then in ME and elsewhere Latin America included.

You know you just have to look at it from the positive side, be optimistic. The empire is dying and it is obvious that it needs a great war for its salvation. They thought they will get it back when war in UA started and they were denied. And Crimea the biggest prize for NATO was won without a shot made. Again, poor situation for people of Donbass but what's important is that Donbass is still free and it will remain that way.

And about the Bolivian UN vote, dude what UN?! c'mon that stuff don't matter...
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