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Post by The_Real_Mr_Anderson Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:14 pm

Imam of Peace / Pray for Peace... (@Imamofpeace) Tweeted:
Happening now: A heated debate between Iraq’s Parliamentary Speaker and his deputy (about whether or not the parliament will move with the decision to expell US forces from Iraq) https://t.co/EL9peCkAsP https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1213808424279887872?s=20
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The text of the bill that Parliament will vote on requires the government to end the presence of any foreign forces

Any foreign forces. Let's see what ze Gemans do now with their ~200 "warriors".

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Post by FoShizzle Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:19 pm

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KneelB4Zod! wrote:Y.N.M.S
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Thousands of Marines head to the Middle East on USS Bataan-Al-Arabia-----fresh meat arrives.

3 members of my wife's family are shipping over to the region. Of course, the family praises their patriotism yet voices concern for their safety. These fools signed up to fight govcorp's wars abroad and despite the family's awareness that we have no real interest in the region or right to be there, they still throw around the old tired platitudes that lead to the destructions of lives - of both the soldiers and the civilians in the ME. One of these family members is just out of high school. And of course if they are killed or maimed no dissenting voice criticizing their decision or the government's policy will be allowed in the family - because he is a war hero.

America has a war culture. It crosses the political spectrum. Thankfully war culture is dying out in Europe. Sadly I don't foresee it dying out in America because unlike Europe, America is probably not going to see the kind of domestic destruction wrought by an event like WW2. America is shielded by its oceans, so can sit back in comfort while destroying lives across the globes.

That is precisely why Murkans don't really understand what they're supporting when they support war. You'd think with all of the pictures and video footage available now that someone might have a bit of compassion. It astounds me that isn't the case, for the most part. Although it's nice to see so many people protesting against this insanity.

Having said that, I'm sorry you have family going over. I do hope they'll return safely. I'm worried that one of my close friend's sons will be recalled (sadly, he is in agreement with our opinions). Spending time in Afghanistan changed his POV entirely.
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Post by Zambeezi Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:20 pm


wait 4 moar confirmation....
they're voting to decide to decide... yunno. wat?


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Post by FoShizzle Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:21 pm

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Both largest Parliamentary coalitions in the Parliament Al-Fateh (Hadi al-Ameri) and Sairoun (Moqtada al-Sdar) agreed to vote for the withdrawal of all #US forces from #Iraq today.

Almost there. It is most likely for the resolution to go through.

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Post by The_Real_Mr_Anderson Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:24 pm

One thing to note if the Iraqis decide to kick the US out and prevent its airspace from being used this would also in theory prevent missiles from flying over Iraqi airspace targeting Iran
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Post by The_Real_Mr_Anderson Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:31 pm

Imam of Peace / Pray for Peace... (@Imamofpeace) Tweeted:
Happening now:

- Chaos inside the Iraqi Parliament. Chants of: “No, No to America.” “America go out, go out, Baghdad will be free.”

- Unelected #PMU members are inside the chamber.

- Kurdish MPs have abandoned the session.

https://t.co/h0RwPwgqZR https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1213813521210695681?s=20
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Post by Talos Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:33 pm

"@aldin_ww

Sunni and Kurdish members refusing to join the session most likely due to US pressure"

God I hate the fucking Kurds they ruin everything in Syria and Iraq by being slaves to America.
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Post by The_Real_Mr_Anderson Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:33 pm

العربية عاجل (@AlArabiya_Brk) Tweeted:
مصادر عراقية: عبدالمهدي سيطلب إنهاء وجود القوات الأميركية بإجراءات عاجلة #العربية_عاجل https://t.co/a1vIGVFnOW https://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Brk/status/1213815410266693635?s=20

Iraqi sources: Abdul-Mahdi will ask to end the presence of US forces with urgent measures
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Post by Talos Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:35 pm

Iraq: Al-Mayadeen Correspondent: Parliament's quorum is completed with 168 deputies

Is 168 enough?
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:36 pm

The_Real_Mr_Anderson wrote:One thing to note if the Iraqis decide to kick the US out and prevent its airspace from being used this would also in theory prevent missiles from flying over Iraqi airspace targeting Iran

Well, I'm quite sure that Trump's criminal regime won't give a damn about Iraqi decission. They don't even see Iraq as sovereign country...


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Post by Zambeezi Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:38 pm

Talos wrote:"@aldin_ww

Sunni and Kurdish members refusing to join the session most likely due to US pressure"

God I hate the fucking Kurds they ruin everything in Syria and Iraq by being slaves to America.

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Post by Talos Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:40 pm


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BREAKING: Sec. State Pompeo confirms that the US intends to carry out an open ended assassination campaign against world leaders. Claims assassinating enemies of the US is "lawful"

WTF the US is out of control reports that they will target Kim jung in next.
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Post by The_Real_Mr_Anderson Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:41 pm

KneelB4Zod! wrote:
The_Real_Mr_Anderson wrote:One thing to note if the Iraqis decide to kick the US out and prevent its airspace from being used this would also in theory prevent missiles from flying over Iraqi airspace targeting Iran

Well, I'm quite sure that Trump's criminal regime won't give a damn about Iraqi decission. They don't even see Iraq as sovereign country...


Well this is true but it will be interesting to see if the vote is ratified a timescale & how orderly it would be
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Post by Talos Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:43 pm

"Well this is true but it will be interesting to see if the vote is ratified a timescale & how orderly it would be"

It gives the PMF the legal excuse they need to attack US bases in Iraq.
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Post by Talos Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:45 pm

It seems the US killed Soliemani because he was in Iraq to organize the votes for evicting US troops
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:45 pm

The Original Mind wrote:
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KneelB4Zod! wrote:Y.N.M.S
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Thousands of Marines head to the Middle East on USS Bataan-Al-Arabia-----fresh meat arrives.

3 members of my wife's family are shipping over to the region. Of course, the family praises their patriotism yet voices concern for their safety. These fools signed up to fight govcorp's wars abroad and despite the family's awareness that we have no real interest in the region or right to be there, they still throw around the old tired platitudes that lead to the destructions of lives - of both the soldiers and the civilians in the ME. One of these family members is just out of high school. And of course if they are killed or maimed no dissenting voice criticizing their decision or the government's policy will be allowed in the family - because he is a war hero.

America has a war culture. It crosses the political spectrum. Thankfully war culture is dying out in Europe. Sadly I don't foresee it dying out in America because unlike Europe, America is probably not going to see the kind of domestic destruction wrought by an event like WW2. America is shielded by its oceans, so can sit back in comfort while destroying lives across the globes.

USA had never a war on it's own soil, except by own people. How many civilians have you lost in wars, except they were abroad?

But US-Americans are the most fearful people - why? Perhaps because of some kind of propaganda? Think of all the Hollywood movies, full of zombies, horror or apocalypse. With fear and paranoia you can not think clear, such a people is easy to manipulate.

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Humans are easy to manipulate, period. There’s nothing unique about America in that regard.

I tend to disagree. Western citizens, and US especially, are literally brainwashed. As David Icke said:

"What the human race is suffering from is mass hypnosis. We are being hypnotized by people like this - news readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people."

For decades US citizens being learned that they have free media. But, on the other hand, uniformity of informations, if it comes to war, propaganda against other countries or individuals, is beyond belief. This so-called "free media" are closely tied with government institutions and corrupt businesses hiden behind the ostensible govrnment.

On other hand, it is not so easy to dupe people im my country. Because we know how propaganda works, how it looks like. And we can still put 1 and 1 together. If US government lied about Afghanistan and Iraq and Libya and Syria then it's highly likely it lies about Iran, too...

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Talos wrote:It seems the US killed Soliemani because he was in Iraq to organize the votes for evicting US troops

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by The_Real_Mr_Anderson Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:47 pm

Abdul-Mahdi: US drones and helicopters roam the skies of Baghdad without official permission #العربية_عاجل
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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#Breaking #Lebanon Secretary General of Hizbollah, Said Nasrallah: “The USA started working against the new government of Iraq, because they refused to be against Iran, bec they rejected the deal of the century, bec they opened the border with Syria and signed deals with China.”


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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by The_Real_Mr_Anderson Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:52 pm

KneelB4Zod! wrote:
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KneelB4Zod! wrote:Y.N.M.S
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Thousands of Marines head to the Middle East on USS Bataan-Al-Arabia-----fresh meat arrives.

3 members of my wife's family are shipping over to the region. Of course, the family praises their patriotism yet voices concern for their safety. These fools signed up to fight govcorp's wars abroad and despite the family's awareness that we have no real interest in the region or right to be there, they still throw around the old tired platitudes that lead to the destructions of lives - of both the soldiers and the civilians in the ME. One of these family members is just out of high school. And of course if they are killed or maimed no dissenting voice criticizing their decision or the government's policy will be allowed in the family - because he is a war hero.

America has a war culture. It crosses the political spectrum. Thankfully war culture is dying out in Europe. Sadly I don't foresee it dying out in America because unlike Europe, America is probably not going to see the kind of domestic destruction wrought by an event like WW2. America is shielded by its oceans, so can sit back in comfort while destroying lives across the globes.

USA had never a war on it's own soil, except by own people. How many civilians have you lost in wars, except they were abroad?

But US-Americans are the most fearful people - why? Perhaps because of some kind of propaganda? Think of all the Hollywood movies, full of zombies, horror or apocalypse. With fear and paranoia you can not think clear, such a people is easy to manipulate.

Twisted Evil
Humans are easy to manipulate, period. There’s nothing unique about America in that regard.

I tend to disagree. Western citizens, and US especially, are literally brainwashed. As David Icke said:

"What the human race is suffering from is mass hypnosis. We are being hypnotized by people like this - news readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people."

For decades US citizens being learned that they have free media. But, on the other hand, uniformity of informations, if it comes to war, propaganda against other countries or individuals, is beyond belief. This so-called "free media" are closely tied with government institutions and corrupt businesses hiden behind the ostensible govrnment.

On other hand, it is not so easy to dupe people im my country. Because we know how propaganda works, how it looks like. And we can still put 1 and 1 together. If US government lied about Afghanistan and Iraq and Libya and Syria then it's highly likely it lies about Iran, too...

I think it's worth noting that the ruling elites are very smart any manipulation is tailored to the task, we see it all over the world fear culture is everywhere.
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:56 pm

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Iraqi PM Adil Abdul-Mahdi: ''Hadj Soleimani was in Baghdad at my invitation. He was scheduled to visit me and carried a letter with him from the Iranian leadership on how to de-escalate tensions with Saudi Arabia.''

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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KneelB4Zod! wrote:Y.N.M.S
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#Breaking #Lebanon Secretary General of Hizbollah, Said Nasrallah: “The USA started working against the new government of Iraq, because they refused to be against Iran, bec they rejected the deal of the century, bec they opened the border with Syria and signed deals with China.”


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I think that's a given to be honest but can Iraq honestly say it's their own interests being represented when you have the US influencing one era & Iran in another
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Post by Talos Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:57 pm

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My Prediction will be right with 172 MPs now while Adel Abdil Mahdi is delivering his speech. This is the adequate number to ask the #US to leave #Iraq.

Reports that PMF dragged in a few Kurdish MPs and forced them to sign lol using US tactics.
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Mr. Nasrallah: Trump wanted the ISIS terrorist organization to remain so that there would be an argument for staying in Iraq and controlling oil wealth, but his plan failed

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Post by The_Real_Mr_Anderson Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:58 pm

KneelB4Zod! wrote:Brasco_Aad
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Iraqi PM Adil Abdul-Mahdi: ''Hadj Soleimani was in Baghdad at my invitation. He was scheduled to visit me and carried a letter with him from the Iranian leadership on how to de-escalate tensions with Saudi Arabia.''

Yeah it's a definite out you go USA
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:59 pm

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Israel could have killed him in Syria, because he moved about freely with support, but they were too scared, so they got the Americans to carry out the murder"

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