Re: #43 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe

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So what are the thoughts about the crash?

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#Aleppo #Syria | Slowly but surely Eastern Aleppo getting rebuit pic.twitter.com/lE0eS8YnOR

— R&U Videos (@r_u_vid) January 10, 2020

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Al-Masdar News
@TheArabSource
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Turkish-backed militants fight one another in eastern #Aleppo https://is.gd/ykHUAK #Syria

[Zambeezi]

Russian, US forces agree to open crossing in eastern #Syria https://t.co/yZlebmvZC8 #DeirEzzor

— Y.N.M.S (@ynms79797979) January 10, 2020

“On the other side, there are many families who were unable to come here. They fled because of the war and were unable to return due to the destruction of the infrastructure. Everything has now been restored, but they are being banned under pretexts that do not exist,”

“They want to go back to their homes, repair, raise children, and work in agriculture. Opening this humanitarian corridor will solve all these problems and people will return to a peaceful life.”

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So what are the thoughts about the crash?

What happens if a small drone on the flight path of a larger aircraft transmits a "hostile signal"?

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Sputnik
@SputnikInt
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URGENT: NTSB says invited by #Iran to join investigation into causes of Ukraine jet crash https://sptnkne.ws/AXan

@NTSB

[Zambeezi]

So what are the thoughts about the crash?

I'm still somewhat confused on the timeline...
my current understanding: the crash happened 5-6 hrs after the rockets/air base strike (2 separate waves/1 hr apart)
is this correct?

if so, then the 'blips' the US claims to have indicating AA launches just before crash cannot be conflated with the 'rocket launches'...
the events were hours apart.

the 1st vid seem to suggest a creeping 'on board' engine fire (to me) and NOT the sudden 'burst' of an impact explosion from a missile strike.
the 2nd vid w/ the guy blowing cigarette smoke shows a missile strike clearly.
therefore:
they are not videos of the same event...

that's all I got.

[Random]

So what are the thoughts about the crash?

What happens if a small drone on the flight path of a larger aircraft transmits a "hostile signal"?

Intentionally transmits...

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Sputnik
@SputnikInt
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URGENT: NTSB says invited by #Iran to join investigation into causes of Ukraine jet crash https://sptnkne.ws/AXan
@NTSB

just to be clear... the NTSB is sending 'an investigator' (1) not a 'team'
Al Arabiya English (@AlArabiya_Eng)
Iran invites the US National Transportation Safety Board to take part in its investigation into the crash of a Ukrainian jetliner and the US agency says it agrees to assign an investigator, according to an Iranian official.

https://twitter.com/NTSB_Newsroom/status/1215433403648135168

[KneelB4Zod!]

So what are the thoughts about the crash?

What happens if a small drone on the flight path of a larger aircraft transmits a "hostile signal"?

Interesting. I didn't consider a drone. My thoughts are mostly tied to possible sabotage from outside of within Iran. I base my thoughts on following known informations:

Missile strike against US structures ended roughly 3 hours before the plane took of - no relation with this event directly

Plane start was delayd for 57 minutes because of the security reasons - they gave premission to start after it was clear that there is no threat

Air defense units have priority knowledge about civil flights and its highly unlikely they would confuse known civil flight which just ascended from the main Tehran airport and is roughly two minutes from it, with hostile target (still possibility someone really badly fucked up though)

There's not much seen in the videos imho. First video published minutes after the crash captured airliner on fire in mid air:

First film of Ukrainian airline plane crash in #Parand #Tehran #Iran

6:30 This morning.#planecrash #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/a9jwHn4G6E

— Mehrdad Torabi (@mehrdadt1987) January 8, 2020

Some claim that the white fire in this video is AA missile (personally I don't think so, it's just engine on fire prior the major explosion):

Can't confirm the video/
This is reportedly another video taken from the #PS752 #Iran pic.twitter.com/lNZ0Xbd3Sp

— Aleph ᴼⁿ ᴴⁱᵍʰ ᴬˡᵉʳᵗ ️ א (@no_itsmyturn) January 10, 2020

From all above my thoughts are:

1) Still accident (Recent NTSB invitation is important step)

2) Sabotage from outside or inside Iran (hack, drone)

3) Mole within air defense unit

4) Mistakenly downed because someone really badly fucked up

5) Intentional downing

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CGTN
@CGTNOfficial
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Iran denies shooting down Ukrainian plane, invites U.S. investigation https://bit.ly/37LKjnk

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Adding to my crash thoughts:

We should not forget that this was captured on the same evening in Israel:

Last night in Israel another Boeing 737-800’s engine caught fire. pic.twitter.com/U5PSzKOMQA

— Cyan Lana (@BabeReflex_ January 9, 2020

And Zelensky, Ukrainian president, was at the state visit in Oman right at the same time as the incident happened...

https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/zelensky-travels-to-oman.html?cn-reloaded=1

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zerohedge
@zerohedge
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UNNAMED EMPLOYEE SAID 737 MAX DESIGNERS `SUPERVISED BY MONKEYS'

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teleSUR English
@telesurenglish
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The resolution was pushed by House Democrats alarmed by Trump's recent actions against Iran.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/House-Approves-Limiting-Trumps-Ability-to-Wage-War-on-Iran-20200109-0011.html

[Random]

So what are the thoughts about the crash?

What happens if a small drone on the flight path of a larger aircraft transmits a "hostile signal"?

Interesting. I didn't consider a drone. My thoughts are mostly tied to possible sabotage from outside of within Iran. I base my thoughts on following known informations:

Missile strike against US structures ended roughly 3 hours before the plane took of - no relation with this event directly

Plane start was delayd for 57 minutes because of the security reasons - they gave premission to start after it was clear that there is no threat

Air defense units have priority knowledge about civil flights and its highly unlikely they would confuse known civil flight which just ascended from the main Tehran airport and is roughly two minutes from it, with hostile target (still possibility someone really badly fucked up though)

There's not much seen in the videos imho. First video published minutes after the crash captured airliner on fire in mid air:

First film of Ukrainian airline plane crash in #Parand #Tehran #Iran

6:30 This morning.#planecrash #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/a9jwHn4G6E

— Mehrdad Torabi (@mehrdadt1987) January 8, 2020

Some claim that the white fire in this video is AA missile (personally I don't think so, it's just engine on fire prior the major explosion):

Can't confirm the video/
This is reportedly another video taken from the #PS752 #Iran pic.twitter.com/lNZ0Xbd3Sp

— Aleph ᴼⁿ ᴴⁱᵍʰ ᴬˡᵉʳᵗ ️ א (@no_itsmyturn) January 10, 2020

From all above my thoughts are:

1) Still accident (Recent NTSB invitation is important step)

2) Sabotage from outside or inside Iran (hack, drone)

3) Mole within air defense unit

4) Mistakenly downed because someone really badly fucked up

5) Intentional downing

Well the claim is it was a Russian system - now I assume Russian systems are pretty good and don't take random potshots at airliners. However I wonder if you can fool the target logic. What system is going to assume a potential target is intentionally trying to get shot down?

Probably nothing but there does seem to be some ADS-B dropout on flights earlier that morning about the area the "incident" occurred. I don't subscribe to additional ADS-B info so that may be simply I have low res data.

[KneelB4Zod!]

Trump means Iran is stronger than we previously thought https://t.co/MWasNPt2jA

— The'Nimr'Tiger (@Souria4Syrians) January 10, 2020

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Al-Masdar News
@TheArabSource
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Libyan Army within few km of #Tripoli's center: report https://is.gd/6uOo7a #Libya

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Within Syria
@WithinSyriaBlog
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Jan 4
ID of a Syrian rebel who was killed by the SAA in southeast Idlib earlier this week.

[Böhse Tante]

The planes that targeted the popular crowd south of the city of Albukamal, Israeli planes, targeted trucks and members of the crowd

— Y.N.M.S (@ynms79797979) 10. Januar 2020

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Within Syria
@WithinSyriaBlog
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Jan 4
ID of a Syrian rebel who was killed by the SAA in southeast Idlib earlier this week.

From where is that ?? China??

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Within Syria
@WithinSyriaBlog
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Jan 4
ID of a Syrian rebel who was killed by the SAA in southeast Idlib earlier this week.

From where is that ?? China??

Yeah, I guess so. Syrian rebel from China...

Actually he was from South Korea lol...

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/t/tapic/x-7977573.0008.105-00000001/7977573.0008.105-00000001?lasttype=boolean;lastview=reslist;resnum=1456;size=50;sort=ID;start=1451;subview=detail;view=entry;rgn1=ic_all;q1=tapic

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Tucker


Sacramento: McDonald’s Blasts Bag Pipe Music in Attempt to Drive Homeless People Away
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2020/01/03/bagpipes-blasting-broadway-mcdonalds/

People living in Midtown Sacramento are getting an earful from a nearby McDonald’s that’s blasting nonstop bagpipe music.

It’s supposed to keep the homeless away, but residents say it’s driving them crazy.

This story is not about music to the ears. CBS13 asked three managers about the bagpipe music blaring from loudspeakers and they replied, “What bagpipes?” The fast-food restaurant at Broadway and 24th is open 24/7, and some neighbors were moved to complain about the sound coming from its walls.

“The first couple of days they had it on 24/7. If we wouldn’t have said anything or reported it to the police, they would have had that thing going on still,” Arnold Phillips said.

Phillips lives across the street and says it’s making him crazy.

Lol I’d eat there every day.

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Within Syria
@WithinSyriaBlog
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Jan 4
ID of a Syrian rebel who was killed by the SAA in southeast Idlib earlier this week.

From where is that ?? China??

Yeah, I guess so. Syrian rebel from China...

I thought the Chinese Gov was working with the Russians.... and by extention Syrians...
Hard to explain a chinese working for the rebels.. ofc it can be a mercenary.. but chinese mercenaries arent the most "common" ones

[KneelB4Zod!]

Within Syria
@WithinSyriaBlog
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Jan 4
ID of a Syrian rebel who was killed by the SAA in southeast Idlib earlier this week.

From where is that ?? China??

Yeah, I guess so. Syrian rebel from China...

I thought the Chinese Gov was working with the Russians.... and by extention Syrians...
Hard to explain a chinese working for the rebels.. ofc it can be a mercenary.. but chinese mercenaries arent the most "common" ones

I corrected my reply. He's from South Korea. Anyway, there are Chinese "rebels". Uyghurs for example...

[The Original Mind]

So what are the thoughts about the crash?

Waiting on further evidence.

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The Intercept
@theintercept
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No one in the Washington establishment seems prepared to come out and say the hard truth: Donald Trump is a murderer, writes James Risen.

https://theintercept.com/2020/01/09/donald-trump-iran-suleimani-murder/

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Iran FM Javad Zarif:

Everything in this region was improving (...) What happened? The U.S. started a maximum pressure campaign, terrorizing Iranian people, making it difficult for Iranians to get food & medicine..

U.S. destroyed stability & undermined security in this region. pic.twitter.com/PZ7bMdNrx2

— Camila (@camilateleSUR) January 9, 2020

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Ali Özkök
@Ozkok_A
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"According to the agreements with the Turkish side, the ceasefire regime was introduced in the #Idlib de-escalation zone starting from 14.00 Moscow time (1100 GMT) on Jan. 9 2020," Russian major-general Yury Borenkov is quoted as saying.

https://reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1Z82FA?__twitter_impression=true

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Killed Iraqi Kataib Hezbollah leader Abu Mahdi Al Muhandis said in Persian:

"• Before I die, I wish to see the destruction of Riyadh & Saudi Arabia,

• not Israel.

• America will be destroyed by Trump himself." pic.twitter.com/kzQdoJkJPA

— Ali Özkök (@Ozkok_A) January 10, 2020

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Ali Özkök
@Ozkok_A
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Under-reported! 31 soldiers were killed in Chinegodar, western Niger. #Africa

Link: https://youtu.be/yYp6AM__lbQ