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Post by The_Real_Mr_Anderson Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:16 am

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SENIOR IRANIAN GUARDS COMMANDER SAYS IRAN WILL TAKE "HARSHER REVENGE SOON" AFTER MISSILE ATTACKS ON U.S. TARGETS IN IRAQ - TASNIM NEWS AGENCY

Question is is he just beating the chest or is he being serious and to what timeframe
remember their 'goal' is not (just) 'revenge'. so ask yourself: how YOU would accomplish it.
logic tells you: random acts of violence against foreign presence across 'however' long (it takes.)
afaik the red flag is still flying.

My thoughts are more with how far the revenge tree will go, given that to most observers the missile attack was like a free shot anything after this because of Trump effectively backing down from a direct military response would be seen as overstepping the mark Iran really will have to commit itself to war because the US Won't back down from its position is Iran actually prepared to go that far
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Post by The_Real_Mr_Anderson Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:21 am

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Slovák wrote: Trump acted reasonably by going back on his threats against Iran - Pushkov
Interfax

And the Iranians are like How about some damage


Which damage is worse, the economic from existing and even more U.S. sanctions on Iran or a U.S.base bombardment without meaningful charges?

Anyway, Iranians want US out of the ME, so neither side going to back down.


economic sanctions will always be more damaging but we've seen what the US can do to a country and its economy afterwards when it commits to military action, you're right with the neither side backing down unfortunately its likely to end in a bloody brutal war
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Post by Zambeezi Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:31 am

We ask 'what is the IRGC' waiting for:
I think the time is RIPE for Syria to make a move to secure their Deir Ezzor - Abukamal oil fields. Right now.
Forget al Tanf for the 'moment'.
Make it an open and notorious declaration. Ground troops. Heavy armor. Timetable. A Countdown...
It's time to 'dare' the US to take some kind of kinetic action. Double-dare them.
It would give the IRGC exactly what they want: 'skirmish' confrontation or US retreat.


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Post by Terviseks Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:36 am

Zambeezi wrote:We ask 'what is the IRGC' waiting for:
I think the time is RIPE for Syria to make a move to secure their Deir Ezzor - Abukamal oil fields. Right now.
Forget al Tanf for the 'moment'.
Make it an open and notorious declaration. Ground troops. Heavy armor. Timetable. A Countdown...
It's time to 'dare' the US to take some kind of kinetic action. Double-dare them.
It would give the IRGC exactly what they want: confrontation or US retreat.



Better to wait the additional economic sanctions to land... then they can play the world martyrs : "look US want to kill our babies, we can't even buy food and medicine on international markets blablabla. So we must fight against this injustice blablabla".. Then would be perfect moment to do as you said, or launch their missiles to oil fields to create a market crash which will infuriate the US..
Advantage of market crash due to 200 USD / barrel is : tensions would rise so high everywhere, that US won't be able to fight everywhere at the same time...

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Post by Zambeezi Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:46 am

the reason I choose the Syrian oil fields (now):
'timing' is right, US is on their 'back foot' in world 'opinion'/domestic squabbles/congress/election
the US 'presence' is clearly illegal. even to a child.
the deployed troops/equipment is skeletal and WAY 'exposed'/indefensible

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Absolutely true. no excuses. none. woe be unto U.

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And a few others ...

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

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Post by Böhse Tante Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:53 pm

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He should impose powerful sanctions on the rest of the world and the USA might boil in their own shit.

Sorry for US-friends, but I would say the same for Germany. I hated their behaviour especially against Greece. There are people saying USA should not stop at the Mexican border with the wall but should build it completely around them. Before the world does it.

Tell your friends that most of people don't hate the "Muricans", but are FED UP. People ask: "Can the world afford the USA any longer?"

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Post by Böhse Tante Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:00 pm

Zambeezi wrote:

It's heartbreaking. Poor animals, they have no chance against human stupidity - they have no weapons.

Sad

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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Rest of the speech here:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1215253568011325441.html?refreshed=yes

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Post by KneelB4Zod! Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:58 pm

2 dead after emergency landing of C-130 Hercules in Kongo:


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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by The_Real_Mr_Anderson Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:02 pm

KneelB4Zod! wrote:Russian Market
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IRAN SAYS IT HAS PREPARED HUNDREDS OF MISSILES -AP

So whats your thoughts here bud?

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