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Zambeezi wrote:remember their 'goal' is not (just) 'revenge'. so ask yourself: how YOU would accomplish it.The_Real_Mr_Anderson wrote:KneelB4Zod! wrote:
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SENIOR IRANIAN GUARDS COMMANDER SAYS IRAN WILL TAKE "HARSHER REVENGE SOON" AFTER MISSILE ATTACKS ON U.S. TARGETS IN IRAQ - TASNIM NEWS AGENCY
Question is is he just beating the chest or is he being serious and to what timeframe
logic tells you: random acts of violence against foreign presence across 'however' long (it takes.)
afaik the red flag is still flying.
My thoughts are more with how far the revenge tree will go, given that to most observers the missile attack was like a free shot anything after this because of Trump effectively backing down from a direct military response would be seen as overstepping the mark Iran really will have to commit itself to war because the US Won't back down from its position is Iran actually prepared to go that far
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Slovák wrote:The_Real_Mr_Anderson wrote:Slovák wrote: Trump acted reasonably by going back on his threats against Iran - Pushkov
Interfax
And the Iranians are like How about some damage
Which damage is worse, the economic from existing and even more U.S. sanctions on Iran or a U.S.base bombardment without meaningful charges?
Anyway, Iranians want US out of the ME, so neither side going to back down.
economic sanctions will always be more damaging but we've seen what the US can do to a country and its economy afterwards when it commits to military action, you're right with the neither side backing down unfortunately its likely to end in a bloody brutal war
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I think the time is RIPE for Syria to make a move to secure their Deir Ezzor - Abukamal oil fields. Right now.
Forget al Tanf for the 'moment'.
Make it an open and notorious declaration. Ground troops. Heavy armor. Timetable. A Countdown...
It's time to 'dare' the US to take some kind of kinetic action. Double-dare them.
It would give the IRGC exactly what they want: 'skirmish' confrontation or US retreat.
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Zambeezi wrote:We ask 'what is the IRGC' waiting for:
I think the time is RIPE for Syria to make a move to secure their Deir Ezzor - Abukamal oil fields. Right now.
Forget al Tanf for the 'moment'.
Make it an open and notorious declaration. Ground troops. Heavy armor. Timetable. A Countdown...
It's time to 'dare' the US to take some kind of kinetic action. Double-dare them.
It would give the IRGC exactly what they want: confrontation or US retreat.
Better to wait the additional economic sanctions to land... then they can play the world martyrs : "look US want to kill our babies, we can't even buy food and medicine on international markets blablabla. So we must fight against this injustice blablabla".. Then would be perfect moment to do as you said, or launch their missiles to oil fields to create a market crash which will infuriate the US..
Advantage of market crash due to 200 USD / barrel is : tensions would rise so high everywhere, that US won't be able to fight everywhere at the same time...
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'timing' is right, US is on their 'back foot' in world 'opinion'/domestic squabbles/congress/election
the US 'presence' is clearly illegal. even to a child.
the deployed troops/equipment is skeletal and WAY 'exposed'/indefensible
It's time to push the bully.
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It was Iran, the Syrian Army, Hezbollah and Shi'ite militias who protected and helped the various Christian Greek Orthodox Churches in Syria and Iran while it was Western "Christians" who armed the jihadists who killed them.
— Paul Antonopoulos (@oulosP) January 8, 2020
If you cannot accept this fact, you're anti-Christian.
Absolutely true. no excuses. none. woe be unto U.
Pence? Conway? r u listening???
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Iran's U.N. envoy dismisses any cooperation with Trump amid sanctions: IRNA https://t.co/8nsBBEtIvl
— Reuters Iran (@ReutersIran) January 9, 2020
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Marshoren under fire RuAF. Works warplanes It's expanding
— Y.N.M.S (@ynms79797979) 9. Januar 2020
And a few others ...
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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way so that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it can not be changed "top-down", only in some kind of "grassroots revolution" or better "evolution" where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.
That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".
Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.
Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Zambeezi wrote:Even Reuters told us within hours how many Western Intelligence are SURE it was an engine failure...
— -- GEROMAN -- (@GeromanAT) January 9, 2020
What happened to the usual blame game? https://t.co/n41PzknH9JUups - changing narrative - again! https://t.co/Mq1hDdkbvc
— -- GEROMAN -- (@GeromanAT) January 9, 2020
$$$$
Why not for an US or Israeli missile?
— -- GEROMAN -- (@GeromanAT) January 9, 2020
Asking for a friend... https://t.co/jJB3jKqSkI
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Iraqi PM Adil Abdul-Mahdi has asserted that the motives behind these threats were the U.S. administration’s desire to see #Iraq’s government rescind an “oil for reconstruction” deal with China. https://t.co/OTHrzyZU2M
— MintPress News (@MintPressNews) January 8, 2020
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#Trump imposes 'powerful sanctions' against #Iran in retaliation for missile strikes https://t.co/uiwzUuicQu
— Al-Masdar News (@TheArabSource) January 9, 2020
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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My friend who lives on the South coast of Australia sent me this.
— Angie Karan (@angie_karan) January 8, 2020
Precious animals, we are here for you
They are all so scared and don't know what to do
They have been given water and fed well pic.twitter.com/7Ghfr2qJEy
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#Iran will follow in #Soleimani's path: Quds Force commander https://t.co/G3gOyUukqh
— Al-Masdar News (@TheArabSource) January 9, 2020
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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KneelB4Zod! wrote:#Trump imposes 'powerful sanctions' against #Iran in retaliation for missile strikes https://t.co/uiwzUuicQu
— Al-Masdar News (@TheArabSource) January 9, 2020
He should impose powerful sanctions on the rest of the world and the USA might boil in their own shit.
Sorry for US-friends, but I would say the same for Germany. I hated their behaviour especially against Greece. There are people saying USA should not stop at the Mexican border with the wall but should build it completely around them. Before the world does it.
Tell your friends that most of people don't hate the "Muricans", but are FED UP. People ask: "Can the world afford the USA any longer?"
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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way so that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it can not be changed "top-down", only in some kind of "grassroots revolution" or better "evolution" where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.
That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".
Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.
Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Zambeezi wrote:My friend who lives on the South coast of Australia sent me this.
— Angie Karan (@angie_karan) January 8, 2020
Precious animals, we are here for you
They are all so scared and don't know what to do
They have been given water and fed well pic.twitter.com/7Ghfr2qJEy
It's heartbreaking. Poor animals, they have no chance against human stupidity - they have no weapons.
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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way so that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it can not be changed "top-down", only in some kind of "grassroots revolution" or better "evolution" where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.
That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".
Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.
Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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#Ukraine's president #Zelenskiy calls for nation to refrain from speculation on #Tehran plane crash pic.twitter.com/WqVT0JKiUK
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Iranian TV Showcases Missile Preparations For January 8 Strike On US Bases https://t.co/pXKNTUzJKp
— SouthFront (@southfronteng) January 9, 2020
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Ali Hajizadeh, IRGC aerospace commander:
— Ibn Riad - ابن رياض (@IbnRiad) January 9, 2020
- The US lie about having no casualties. If they are truthful, we call on them to open up Ain al-Assad base to scrutiny.
- 9 planes transported US casualties to the US, Jordan & some Iraqi hospitals too pic.twitter.com/8Fz4EVhBZP
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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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https://t.co/GQRQ5f4FNc pic.twitter.com/9bOpHdT3A3
— فیلد مارشال! (@FieldMarshalPSO) January 9, 2020
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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KneelB4Zod! wrote:Ali Hajizadeh, IRGC aerospace commander:
— Ibn Riad - ابن رياض (@IbnRiad) January 9, 2020
- The US lie about having no casualties. If they are truthful, we call on them to open up Ain al-Assad base to scrutiny.
- 9 planes transported US casualties to the US, Jordan & some Iraqi hospitals too pic.twitter.com/8Fz4EVhBZP
Rest of the speech here:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1215253568011325441.html?refreshed=yes
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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IRAN SAYS IT HAS PREPARED HUNDREDS OF MISSILES -AP
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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#Iran says black boxes recovered from the wreckage of #PS752 sustained damage and some parts of their memory lost. https://t.co/deSwDaUokt
— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) January 9, 2020
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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#Russia: Explosion and fire at the diesel processing plant at Ukhta refinery. Shockwave reportedly hit Sosnogorsk in few kilometers away https://t.co/9xhPmuPOWL pic.twitter.com/Nzxgl36rvh
— Liveuamap (@Liveuamap) January 9, 2020
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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An agitated GOP UT Sen Lee says administration's briefers on Iran stayed "for only 75 minutes" and then basically told us we had to be good little boys and girls..."
— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) January 8, 2020
Defense Secretary Esper responds to criticism of Trump admin's classified Cap Hill briefing: "Most members of Congress do not have access to the intelligence that I think is the most compelling. That’s simply the nature of the intelligence, and it’s restricted to the Gang of 8."
— Lucas Tomlinson (@LucasFoxNews) January 8, 2020
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#TurkishStream launch impact on #Ukraine:
- Natural gas transit reduced by 15 Billion cube meters.
- #Bulgaria, #Turkey, and the Balkan countries get their supply bypassing Ukraine.
- Substantial revenue loss from gas transit fees.
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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В Конго совершил аварийную посадку и загорелся военно-транспортный самолет C-130 Hercules. Без жертв. pic.twitter.com/ArAgKk402f
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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IRAN SAYS IT HAS PREPARED HUNDREDS OF MISSILES -AP
So whats your thoughts here bud?
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