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Post by The Original Mind Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:48 pm

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There goes the Cyberpunk 2077 release date...
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Post by FoShizzle Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:48 pm

KneelB4Zod! wrote:
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KneelB4Zod! wrote:Sharmine Narwani
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Report: #Brazil President Jair Bolsonaro has tested positive for Coronavirus. Meanwhile,
@realDonaldTrump
, who dined with him last Saturday, refuses to even take the test.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/13/coronavirus-live-updates-uk-us-australia-italy-europe-school-shutdown-share-markets-sport-events-cancelled-latest-update-news?CMP=share_btn_tw&page=with:block-5e6b8f3d8f088d7575592cbd#block-5e6b8f3d8f088d7575592cbd

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Aye, I should add it ASAP.

Hope you're doing well. Interesting times aahead of us. This year overall is full of "fun" so far...

Insanity. If we all live through this, we really do need to have the group vacation we've talked about forever. hugs
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Post by Böhse Tante Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:55 pm

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China’s richest man says he is donating 500,000 coronavirus testing kits to the United States.


And people must pay >3000 $ for it?

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Of course, it's the US.  Despite CDC assuring people their testing and care will not cost them anything, insurance companies are already denying coverage to people.

This is so stupid. What good is it if some people can afford the test, get tested negative, and then come into contact with infected people who cannot afford the test? 
geek

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:00 pm

On monday we gonna have over 200 infected I guess. It doesn't look like taken measures made difference so far...

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:05 pm

FoShizzle wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
FoShizzle wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:Sharmine Narwani
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Report: #Brazil President Jair Bolsonaro has tested positive for Coronavirus. Meanwhile,
@realDonaldTrump
, who dined with him last Saturday, refuses to even take the test.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/13/coronavirus-live-updates-uk-us-australia-italy-europe-school-shutdown-share-markets-sport-events-cancelled-latest-update-news?CMP=share_btn_tw&page=with:block-5e6b8f3d8f088d7575592cbd#block-5e6b8f3d8f088d7575592cbd

#2 - Wuhan (Novel) Corona Virus -looming pandemy of deadly pneumonia? - Pandemy ongoing! - Page 12 1254334646

Where is that "I wish" emoji from the other place when we need it???  #2 - Wuhan (Novel) Corona Virus -looming pandemy of deadly pneumonia? - Pandemy ongoing! - Page 12 141993559

hugs

Aye, I should add it ASAP.

Hope you're doing well. Interesting times aahead of us. This year overall is full of "fun" so far...

Insanity.  If we all live through this, we really do need to have the group vacation we've talked about forever.  hugs

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by FoShizzle Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:07 pm

Böhse Tante wrote:
FoShizzle wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:
Talos wrote:
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China’s richest man says he is donating 500,000 coronavirus testing kits to the United States.


And people must pay >3000 $ for it?

Question

Of course, it's the US.  Despite CDC assuring people their testing and care will not cost them anything, insurance companies are already denying coverage to people.

This is so stupid. What good is it if some people can afford the test, get tested negative, and then come into contact with infected people who cannot afford the test? 
geek

It doesn't have to make sense. In the US it's all about the bottom line. That's why employee benefits are so bad (time off, healthcare, retirement funding). If you live in the US and get a serious illness, unless you are covered by medicare or medicaid (the government sponsored healthcare), you will be bankrupt. My mother's chemo was $10K PER DOSE 20 years ago - I can't imagine how expensive it is now. Her radiation two years ago was $1K PER RAY. Not per visit, but every time they pressed the button. That didn't include the doctor's fee, the nurse's fee, or the radiation technologist's fees. Then there is the oncologist, because everyone here is a specialist. It's freaking nuts to get sick. I only go to the doctor when I absolutely must.
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Post by Böhse Tante Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:07 pm

I can not find info about testing per capita in Germany.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Post by FoShizzle Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:09 pm

KneelB4Zod! wrote:On monday we gonna have  over 200 infected I guess. It doesn't look like taken measures made difference so far...

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I hope you are working from home now. Do you have any infected in your town?
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:15 pm

FoShizzle wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:
FoShizzle wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:
Talos wrote:
Anup Kaphle
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China’s richest man says he is donating 500,000 coronavirus testing kits to the United States.


And people must pay >3000 $ for it?

Question

Of course, it's the US.  Despite CDC assuring people their testing and care will not cost them anything, insurance companies are already denying coverage to people.

This is so stupid. What good is it if some people can afford the test, get tested negative, and then come into contact with infected people who cannot afford the test? 
geek

It doesn't have to make sense.  In the US it's all about the bottom line.  That's why employee benefits are so bad (time off, healthcare, retirement funding).  If you live in the US and get a serious illness, unless you are covered by medicare or medicaid (the government sponsored healthcare), you will be bankrupt.  My mother's chemo was $10K PER DOSE 20 years ago - I can't imagine how expensive it is now.  Her radiation two years ago was $1K PER RAY.  Not per visit, but every time they pressed the button.  That didn't include the doctor's fee, the nurse's fee, or the radiation technologist's fees.  Then there is the oncologist, because everyone here is a specialist.  It's freaking nuts to get sick.  I only go to the doctor when I absolutely must.

Maybe some Americans will understand what's benefit of public health care. It's not about socialism, it's about responsibility. When US food supply cahin will start collapsing then they will understand that even those, who have the worst wages, who work for giant poultry corporatins or those, who have 2 or 3 jobs only to pay their housing, need health care as thats them who feed chickens and work in sluaghterhouses and clean trash bins. If those people cant afford testing and propper medication then everything will go to hell very fast because it gonna be their community that will be hit the most by the pandemy...

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:21 pm

FoShizzle wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:On monday we gonna have  over 200 infected I guess. It doesn't look like taken measures made difference so far...

hugs

I hope you are working from home now.  Do you have any infected in your town?

I'm still in office and I don't know about any infected in the town. But in the county there are 14 cases already. I don't think they do enough to stop the infection. Advice from China is to shut down everything, businesses, industry, non-esential state institutions, declare curefew for 22 hours per day with two hours for basic shopping etc. There's not even desinfection of public places seen so far...

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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PM Netanyahu is now begging India's PM Modi to supply him with tons of medical goods.

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Retard...

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by Böhse Tante Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:58 pm

@Fo

umptienth try ...

Germany is apparently "socialist" after all. For medicines prescribed by a doctor, usually a fee of 5 € at most has to be paid, but not all medicines are free, some are free, but there are also some that have to be paid partially or fully. Common medicines are free for <18 years old, even the contraceptive pill 

Recognised doctors are paid by the statutory health insurance fund, except for private doctors. Hospital costs 20 € per night afaik up to 14 days, that was about 25 years ago without co-payment. But it does not lead to financial ruin.

Is it possible that in the USA children have to die because their parents are poor? What a cruel country.

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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way so that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it can not be changed "top-down", only in some kind of "grassroots revolution" or better "evolution" where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).

No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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#Russia is getting a hit with a wave or “pneumonia virus”, which is in fact #coronavirus, but hospital administration are told to keep secret in order to not spread the panic.

People are ordered to sit at home. Schools will be closing.

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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Post by FoShizzle Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:16 pm

KneelB4Zod! wrote:
FoShizzle wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:
FoShizzle wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:
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China’s richest man says he is donating 500,000 coronavirus testing kits to the United States.


And people must pay >3000 $ for it?

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Of course, it's the US.  Despite CDC assuring people their testing and care will not cost them anything, insurance companies are already denying coverage to people.

This is so stupid. What good is it if some people can afford the test, get tested negative, and then come into contact with infected people who cannot afford the test? 
geek

It doesn't have to make sense.  In the US it's all about the bottom line.  That's why employee benefits are so bad (time off, healthcare, retirement funding).  If you live in the US and get a serious illness, unless you are covered by medicare or medicaid (the government sponsored healthcare), you will be bankrupt.  My mother's chemo was $10K PER DOSE 20 years ago - I can't imagine how expensive it is now.  Her radiation two years ago was $1K PER RAY.  Not per visit, but every time they pressed the button.  That didn't include the doctor's fee, the nurse's fee, or the radiation technologist's fees.  Then there is the oncologist, because everyone here is a specialist.  It's freaking nuts to get sick.  I only go to the doctor when I absolutely must.

Maybe some Americans will understand what's benefit of public health care. It's not about socialism, it's about responsibility. When US food supply cahin will start collapsing then they will understand that even those, who have the worst wages, who work for giant poultry corporatins or those, who have 2 or 3 jobs only to pay their housing, need health care as thats them who feed chickens and work in sluaghterhouses and clean trash bins. If those people cant afford testing and propper medication then everything will go to hell very fast because it gonna be their community that will be hit the most by the pandemy...

I can only wish that people would open their eyes. It is really horrible.
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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Post by FoShizzle Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:19 pm

Böhse Tante wrote:@Fo

umptienth try ...

Germany is apparently "socialist" after all. For medicines prescribed by a doctor, usually a fee of 5 € at most has to be paid, but not all medicines are free, some are free, but there are also some that have to be paid partially or fully. Common medicines are free for <18 years old, even the contraceptive pill 

Recognised doctors are paid by the statutory health insurance fund, except for private doctors. Hospital costs 20 € per night afaik up to 14 days, that was about 25 years ago without co-payment. But it does not lead to financial ruin.

Is it possible that in the USA children have to die because their parents are poor? What a cruel country.

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As Zod said, it's not "socialist", it's responsible. But the programming is strong here, as you all have encountered with some people you've talked with from the US.
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Post by Slovák Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:32 pm

FoShizzle wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:@Fo

umptienth try ...

Germany is apparently "socialist" after all. For medicines prescribed by a doctor, usually a fee of 5 € at most has to be paid, but not all medicines are free, some are free, but there are also some that have to be paid partially or fully. Common medicines are free for <18 years old, even the contraceptive pill 

Recognised doctors are paid by the statutory health insurance fund, except for private doctors. Hospital costs 20 € per night afaik up to 14 days, that was about 25 years ago without co-payment. But it does not lead to financial ruin.

Is it possible that in the USA children have to die because their parents are poor? What a cruel country.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

As Zod said, it's not "socialist", it's responsible.  But the programming is strong here, as you all have encountered with some people you've talked with from the US.


USA never stops being the wild-wild West ... unless China annexes it. Forget free anything in America, the elites need you indebted for life.


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Post by KneelB4Zod! Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:32 pm

FoShizzle wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
FoShizzle wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:
FoShizzle wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:
Talos wrote:
Anup Kaphle
@AnupKaphle
China’s richest man says he is donating 500,000 coronavirus testing kits to the United States.


And people must pay >3000 $ for it?

Question

Of course, it's the US.  Despite CDC assuring people their testing and care will not cost them anything, insurance companies are already denying coverage to people.

This is so stupid. What good is it if some people can afford the test, get tested negative, and then come into contact with infected people who cannot afford the test? 
geek

It doesn't have to make sense.  In the US it's all about the bottom line.  That's why employee benefits are so bad (time off, healthcare, retirement funding).  If you live in the US and get a serious illness, unless you are covered by medicare or medicaid (the government sponsored healthcare), you will be bankrupt.  My mother's chemo was $10K PER DOSE 20 years ago - I can't imagine how expensive it is now.  Her radiation two years ago was $1K PER RAY.  Not per visit, but every time they pressed the button.  That didn't include the doctor's fee, the nurse's fee, or the radiation technologist's fees.  Then there is the oncologist, because everyone here is a specialist.  It's freaking nuts to get sick.  I only go to the doctor when I absolutely must.

Maybe some Americans will understand what's benefit of public health care. It's not about socialism, it's about responsibility. When US food supply cahin will start collapsing then they will understand that even those, who have the worst wages, who work for giant poultry corporatins or those, who have 2 or 3 jobs only to pay their housing, need health care as thats them who feed chickens and work in sluaghterhouses and clean trash bins. If those people cant afford testing and propper medication then everything will go to hell very fast because it gonna be their community that will be hit the most by the pandemy...

I can only wish that people would open their eyes.  It is really horrible.

I just can't get why so many people in the US can't get this. It's sp damned simple. Yes, I'm partly annoyed that even those, who intentionally don't work are entitled to get same health care as me but, yet again, it's about responsibility. But let the people, who work and do their best to survive, without apropriate health care... Just can't get it.

I wish I will be wrong but US gonna be hit mardest with this pandemia...

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Oh the drama! It's your country they always tell us there's no free lunch.

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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way so that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it can not be changed "top-down", only in some kind of "grassroots revolution" or better "evolution" where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).

No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Böhse Tante wrote:

How do you heal without diagnosing first, OMG Trump is so much annoying ...

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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