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Post by Böhse Tante Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:41 pm


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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way so that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it can not be changed "top-down", only in some kind of "grassroots revolution" or better "evolution" where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).

No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way so that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it can not be changed "top-down", only in some kind of "grassroots revolution" or better "evolution" where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).

No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way so that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it can not be changed "top-down", only in some kind of "grassroots revolution" or better "evolution" where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).

No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Italian coronavirus victims over 80 may not receive intensive care
https://readsector.com/italian-coronavirus-victims-over-80-may-not-receive-intensive-care/
Italian coronavirus patients who are 80 or older will not receive intensive care if the crisis worsens, under emergency plans being proposed in Turin.

The plans drawn up by civil protection officials warn that ‘it will be necessary to apply criteria for access to intensive treatment’ if there are too many patients.

The document, seen by the Daily Telegraph, proposes that these criteria ‘must include age of less than 80’.  

Doctors have already described making life-or-death decisions about who can be treated and who may effectively be left to die.  

One doctor said a patient’s fate ‘is decided by age and by health conditions’, adding: ‘This is how it is in a war.’

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UK Police given power to arrest infected
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-news-live-symptoms-uk-cases-update-map-latest-boris-johnson-a9407661.html

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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way so that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it can not be changed "top-down", only in some kind of "grassroots revolution" or better "evolution" where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).

No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Post by Böhse Tante Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:03 pm

@Zambeezi

This page is very up to date, the numbers are much higher now:

https://interaktiv.morgenpost.de/corona-virus-karte-infektionen-deutschland-weltweit/

It shows Germany, Europe and worldwide, "Alles anzeigen" means "show all", red is infected, green is is recovered, black is deaths. With the slider at the bottom in the middle of the map you can select dates from January 27th, the date is shown in the left box.

Unfortunately, I have not yet been able to find figures for the test rate in Germany.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Post by Zambeezi Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:25 pm

Böhse Tante wrote:@Zambeezi

This page is very up to date, the numbers are much higher now:

https://interaktiv.morgenpost.de/corona-virus-karte-infektionen-deutschland-weltweit/

It shows Germany, Europe and worldwide, "Alles anzeigen" means "show all", red is infected, green is is recovered, black is deaths. With the slider at the bottom in the middle of the map you can select dates from January 27th, the date is shown in the left box.

Unfortunately, I have not yet been able to find figures for the test rate in Germany.
thanx Böhse... i haven't found a good source for an updating map of europe by the numbers.
if you find a 'source' for map updates lemme know.
the one i posted above is ez to read but now dated/old.

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Post by Böhse Tante Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:59 pm

That what they write there, for updates you must refresh.

Data sources: Johns Hopkins University CSSE (international data from WHO, CDC (USA), ECDC (Europe), NHC, DXY (China) and reports from the German authorities (Robert Koch Institute as well as district and state health authorities).

Note: The data situation is highly dynamic worldwide. Thus, the case numbers may differ from other representations. The official figures differ in particular between the Robert Koch Institute and the reports of the federal states. This is due to the different time frames and reporting chains. These figures are checked by the editorial staff several times a day. In addition, there are delays in the number of people who are "healthy again".

Further information on methodology (i)

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

With mouse over the circles on the map you see the numbers too.

Or did I understand not exactly what you meant with "if you find a 'source' for map updates lemme know."?

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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agree.spit.

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Too Big To Fail: Qantas, the corporate elite and the coronavirus
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/too-big-to-fail-qantas-the-corporate-elite-and-the-coronavirus/

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very thorough... i read most of it.

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Post by shachalnur Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:41 am

Zambeezi wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:@Zambeezi

This page is very up to date, the numbers are much higher now:

https://interaktiv.morgenpost.de/corona-virus-karte-infektionen-deutschland-weltweit/

It shows Germany, Europe and worldwide, "Alles anzeigen" means "show all", red is infected, green is is recovered, black is deaths. With the slider at the bottom in the middle of the map you can select dates from January 27th, the date is shown in the left box.

Unfortunately, I have not yet been able to find figures for the test rate in Germany.
thanx Böhse... i haven't found a good source for an updating map of europe by the numbers.
if you find a 'source' for map updates lemme know.
the one i posted above is ez to read but now dated/old.

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Dunno if it's usefull,but this is a site with interesting graphs.

https://covid19info.live/germany/

it gives you a better idea of the underlying trends in the numbers.

graph on the right shows numbers per day ,that's a good indicator.

don't think it has numbers of tests done per country.

I agree without those numbers it's not easy to know for sure what happens.

if you knew the site already ,please ignore.

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Czech Republic: 30 new cases of coronavirus overnight. 464 in total.

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Zambeezi wrote:

They make it a festival. Best way to handle it. Good mood and laughing strengthen the immune system.

cheers sunny

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Economists: “We need your kids to bring #COVIDー19 home from school to cull the herd, I mean, #herdimmunity”
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Japan testing for coronavirus at fraction of capacity
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/18/national/japan-testing-covid-19-sixth-of-capacity/
Japan is only using a sixth of its capacity to test for the coronavirus even as it is increasing its ability to do so, government data shows, adding to concern it is understating its outbreak and not doing enough to contain it.

India: 1 million people expected to attend a religions festival starting March 25th, ignoring Covid-19 concerns
https://www.deccanherald.com/national/north-and-central/coronavirus-ayodhya-to-hold-ram-navami-mela-despite-covid-19-fears-814613.html


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Post by Böhse Tante Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:13 am

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Böhse Tante wrote:@Zambeezi

This page is very up to date, the numbers are much higher now:

https://interaktiv.morgenpost.de/corona-virus-karte-infektionen-deutschland-weltweit/

It shows Germany, Europe and worldwide, "Alles anzeigen" means "show all", red is infected, green is is recovered, black is deaths. With the slider at the bottom in the middle of the map you can select dates from January 27th, the date is shown in the left box.

Unfortunately, I have not yet been able to find figures for the test rate in Germany.
thanx Böhse... i haven't found a good source for an updating map of europe by the numbers.
if you find a 'source' for map updates lemme know.
the one i posted above is ez to read but now dated/old.

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Dunno if it's usefull,but this is a site with interesting graphs.

https://covid19info.live/germany/

it gives you a better idea of the underlying trends in the numbers.

graph on the right shows numbers per day ,that's a good indicator.

don't think it has numbers of tests done per country.

I agree without those numbers it's not easy to know for sure what happens.

if you knew the site already ,please ignore.

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Thank you, I didn't know the page. Now I don't need to calculate percentage figures.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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