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Post by 刘汉 Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:04 pm

Zambeezi wrote:

Turkey & The West: Drifting Further Apart
https://archive.is/Vyy29

and this surprises..... NO ONE. (in Zodland)

I think, the author is confusing the opinion of the people and the official line of the governments.

The people are drifting apart, yes. Under Mustafa Kemal Turkey made a move towards Europe. Abandoning the Arabic script and the fez were just visible symbols. During the 1980s, many Turkish families came to Germany to work there. But then, several things happened. The backward Anatolians took over. The visible symbol was the scarf Turkish women were suddenly wearing in Germany and Istanbul. On the one hand this group of Turks took advantage of the liberal situation in Germany. They said it's there religious freedom to behave so. Mustafa Kemal would have been shocked to see and to hear this. On the other hand they complained about the German liberal situation. The Turkish families working in Germany could not educate their children in the authoritarian way, they were used at home. Because the children would run to the German administration for help against their parents. More and more decided to move back home to Turkey again. They had invested the money, they had earned in Germany in Turkey anyhow, they had got German school diplomas and could get better jobs back home. So, yes, the people have changed.

But the official line of the politics was different. Turkey was part of NATO to block the Soviet-Union, as the Ottoman Empire had blocked the Russian Empire before. EU never wanted Turkey in, but US wanted to have all European NATO members in the EU. So EU had an endless talk with Turkey. Yes, Turkey ignored the sanctions against Iran. US knew it, but ignored it, because they needed Turkey against Russia. Now under Obama this Neo-Ottoman idea was put into Erdogan's head. Erdogan could only do this, because he got permission from Washington. He overstretched his forces between Tunesia and Afghanistan, between the Caucasus and maybe now Ethiopia. Somehow I expected it, first Washington was encouraging him to be active on so many places and was taking advantage of, and now they abandon him. It is like the German proverb: Der Mohr hat seine Schuldigkeit getan, der Mohr kann gehen (The negro has done his job, the negro may get lost, Friedrich Schiller, Fiesco).
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Post by Zambeezi Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:28 pm

刘汉 wrote:
Zambeezi wrote:

Turkey & The West: Drifting Further Apart
https://archive.is/Vyy29

and this surprises..... NO ONE. (in Zodland)
I think, the author is confusing the opinion of the people and the official line of the governments.
The people are drifting apart, yes. Under Mustafa Kemal Turkey made a move towards Europe. Abandoning the Arabic script and the fez were just visible symbols. During the 1980s, many Turkish families came to Germany to work there. But then, several things happened. The backward Anatolians took over. The visible symbol was the scarf Turkish women were suddenly wearing in Germany and Istanbul. On the one hand this group of Turks took advantage of the liberal situation in Germany. They said it's there religious freedom to behave so. Mustafa Kemal would have been shocked to see and to hear this. On the other hand they complained about the German liberal situation. The Turkish families working in Germany could not educate their children in the authoritarian way, they were used at home. Because the children would run to the German administration for help against their parents. More and more decided to move back home to Turkey again. They had invested the money, they had earned in Germany in Turkey anyhow, they had got German school diplomas and could get better jobs back home. So, yes, the people have changed.

But the official line of the politics was different. Turkey was part of NATO to block the Soviet-Union, as the Ottoman Empire had blocked the Russian Empire before. EU never wanted Turkey in, but US wanted to have all European NATO members in the EU. So EU had an endless talk with Turkey. Yes, Turkey ignored the sanctions against Iran. US knew it, but ignored it, because they needed Turkey against Russia. Now under Obama this Neo-Ottoman idea was put into Erdogan's head. Erdogan could only do this, because he got permission from Washington. He overstretched his forces between Tunesia and Afghanistan, between the Caucasus and maybe now Ethiopia. Somehow I expected it, first Washington was encouraging him to be active on so many places and was taking advantage of, and now they abandon him. It is like the German proverb: Der Mohr hat seine Schuldigkeit getan, der Mohr kann gehen (The negro has done his job, the negro may get lost, Friedrich Schiller, Fiesco).
excellent summation and true perspective. ^^
Putin just smiles at Erdo like a Cheshire cat.

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Post by Zambeezi Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:57 pm

don't forget this. D-Dimer test will verify the vascular 'resistance'.
the 'build-up' is worse than 'plaque' and is irreversible.


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Post by Böhse Tante Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:03 pm

https://principia-scientific.com/doctor-heart-failure-from-mrna-jabs-will-kill-most-people/

“These Shots Are Causing Huge Damage And The Worst Is Yet To Come.”

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Post by Zambeezi Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:07 pm

we honor a life GIVEN (not taken) as we head into battle with that same system....




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Post by Zambeezi Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:20 pm

Rules based order.
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https://archive.is/7sQR0
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/biden-diego-garcia-mauritius/2021/08/08/38977c3a-f497-11eb-a49b-d96f2dac0942_story.html

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Post by Böhse Tante Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:22 pm

Zambeezi wrote:Rules based order.
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https://archive.is/7sQR0
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/biden-diego-garcia-mauritius/2021/08/08/38977c3a-f497-11eb-a49b-d96f2dac0942_story.html

Someone had suggested in the German forum that Mauritius could contract the Chinese to build a hospital on the islands.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Post by Böhse Tante Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:02 pm

https://www.heise.de/forum/Telepolis/Kommentare/Was-bringt-uns-die-vierte-Corona-Welle/Island-gibt-Kampf-gegen-Corona-auf-Herdenimmunitaet-durch-Ansteckung-empfohlen/posting-39413598/show/


Iceland gives up fight against Corona: Herd immunity by contagion recommended
After Iceland is almost completely vaccinated, but more and more people are falling ill, the government has given up the fight and is going the Swedish way. People should infect themselves and thus achieve herd immunity.
https://www.visir.is/g/20212140884d/na-thurfi-hjardonaemi-med-thvi-ad-lata-veiruna-ganga

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Sorry, there must have been some misinterpretation, but I don't understand what the facts actually are.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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https://www.heise.de/forum/Telepolis/Kommentare/Was-bringt-uns-die-vierte-Corona-Welle/Re-Gibt-es-denn-eine-Kausalitaet/posting-39416160/show/

(1) SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Elicits Cell Signaling in Human Host Cells: Implications for Possible Consequences of COVID-19 Vaccines

>>> https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/9/1/36/htm

(2) Quantitative assays reveal cell fusion at minimal levels of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and fusion from without

>>> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589004221001383?via%3Dihub

(3) The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein alters barrier function in 2D static and 3D microfluidic in-vitro models of the human blood-brain barrier

>>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33053430/

(4) Be aware of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein: There is more than meets the eye

>>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34100279/

(5) Preprint - Selectively expressing SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein S1 subunit in cardiomyocytes induces cardiac hypertrophy in mice

>>> https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.20.448993v1

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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it looks like Al-Qaeda militants in Idlib

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Zambeezi wrote:it looks like Al-Qaeda militants in Idlib

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Post by khnum Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:58 am

[quote="Böhse Tante"]https://www.heise.de/forum/Telepolis/Kommentare/Was-bringt-uns-die-vierte-Corona-Welle/Re-Gibt-es-denn-eine-Kausalitaet/posting-39416160/show/

(1) SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Elicits Cell Signaling in Human Host Cells: Implications for Possible Consequences of COVID-19 Vaccines

>>> https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/9/1/36/htm

(2) Quantitative assays reveal cell fusion at minimal levels of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and fusion from without

>>> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589004221001383?via%3Dihub

(3) The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein alters barrier function in 2D static and 3D microfluidic in-vitro models of the human blood-brain barrier

>>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33053430/


I live with my elderly parents both 84 and Im finding Im increasingly avoiding areas where humans congregate inside ;pubs,clubs,football concerts etc, not that I will be allowed to go to any of these places shortly. I shop for booze,groceries etc now on line. My concern is the vaccinated not the unvaccinated give it two years and they will according to many experts be stacking them like cordwood but with spike proteins they will kill many unvaccinated.


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Boris Put in Putin!

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China: Canadian citizen loses appeal against death penalty
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-58141758

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khnum wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:https://www.heise.de/forum/Telepolis/Kommentare/Was-bringt-uns-die-vierte-Corona-Welle/Re-Gibt-es-denn-eine-Kausalitaet/posting-39416160/show/
(1) SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Elicits Cell Signaling in Human Host Cells: Implications for Possible Consequences of COVID-19 Vaccines
>>> https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/9/1/36/htm
(2) Quantitative assays reveal cell fusion at minimal levels of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and fusion from without
>>> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589004221001383?via%3Dihub
(3) The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein alters barrier function in 2D static and 3D microfluidic in-vitro models of the human blood-brain barrier
>>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33053430/
I live with my elderly parents both 84 and Im finding Im increasingly avoiding areas where humans congregate inside ;pubs,clubs,football concerts etc, not that I will be allowed to go to any of these places shortly. I shop for booze,groceries etc now on line. My concern is the vaccinated not the unvaccinated give it two years and they will according to many experts be stacking them like cordwood but with spike proteins they will kill many unvaccinated.
Ivermectin
to everyone...
my daughter (39) yesterday dosed cuz 'early symptoms'... symptoms abated in less than 24. a single '250lb squirt' worked fine.
$7.95 at any 'feed store'. No doctor. No appointment. No permission. No prescription. fuck em.  cheers



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if you have never taken veterinary meds
i'm living proof they're safe.
been taking vet antibiotics for over 30 years.
other than some bouts with uncontrolled moo-ing (sort of like Tourette syndrome)
jus kiddin.


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Many/most in Zodland are European/Aussie and grew up with socialized medical care.... I never did.
Raising a family was always an exercise in 'self-sufficiency' for me. No 'health care', no welfare and cash only.
I would pull out a hundred dollar bill and buy bottles of Tetracycline/Penicillin/Amoxicillin
from the 'Pharmacia' across the border in Mexico.
Many, many families were in the same boat and we all shared what we had.
This may be a new experience for some of you as we plunge ahead. Just think 'black market' lol. cheers.


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Post by Böhse Tante Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:53 pm

Found the following in threads moved to the so-called "troll meadow".

https://www.theguardian.com/science/neurophilosophy/2016/mar/24/magneto-remotely-controls-brain-and-behaviour



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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way so that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it can not be changed "top-down", only in some kind of "grassroots revolution" or better "evolution" where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).

No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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In Germany they always say, this is not possible. Turkey is just doing it.
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Post by Böhse Tante Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:04 pm

Zambeezi wrote:
khnum wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:https://www.heise.de/forum/Telepolis/Kommentare/Was-bringt-uns-die-vierte-Corona-Welle/Re-Gibt-es-denn-eine-Kausalitaet/posting-39416160/show/
(1) SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Elicits Cell Signaling in Human Host Cells: Implications for Possible Consequences of COVID-19 Vaccines
>>> https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/9/1/36/htm
(2) Quantitative assays reveal cell fusion at minimal levels of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and fusion from without
>>> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589004221001383?via%3Dihub
(3) The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein alters barrier function in 2D static and 3D microfluidic in-vitro models of the human blood-brain barrier
>>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33053430/
I live with my elderly parents both 84 and Im finding Im increasingly avoiding areas where humans congregate inside ;pubs,clubs,football concerts etc, not that I will be allowed to go to any of these places shortly. I shop for booze,groceries etc now on line. My concern is the vaccinated not the unvaccinated give it two years and they will according to many experts be stacking them like cordwood but with spike proteins they will kill many unvaccinated.
to everyone...
my daughter (39) yesterday dosed cuz 'early symptoms'... symptoms abated in less than 24. a single '250lb squirt' worked fine.
$7.95 at any 'feed store'. No doctor. No appointment. No permission. No prescription. fuck em.  cheers



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if you have never taken veterinary meds
i'm living proof they're safe.
been taking vet antibiotics for over 30 years.
other than some bouts with uncontrolled moo-ing (sort of like Tourette syndrome)
jus kiddin.

I don't know how it works in Germany, you can only get it (officially) with a doctor's prescription.

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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way so that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it can not be changed "top-down", only in some kind of "grassroots revolution" or better "evolution" where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).

No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/was-the-tanker-attack-an-israeli-false-flag/

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oldie but goldie

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Post by Zambeezi Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:22 pm

 
Helion says its approach to fusion energy differs in three main ways from other approaches:
►Firstly, it uses a pulsed fusion system, which helps overcome the hardest physics challenges,
keeps its fusion device smaller than other approaches, and allows it to adjust the power output based on need.
►Secondly, its system is built to directly recover electricity, while other fusion systems heat water to create steam to turn a turbine
which loses a lot of energy in the process.
►Thirdly, it uses deuterium and helium-3 as fuel, which helps keep its system small and efficient.

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double spit.

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