Re: #84 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe

[Matjaz]

Kyle Rittenhouse case

This is a typical case for "common law". He has killed some people. The question is: Has he done this in self-defense or not? This can be discussed. So everything is possible. And a jury was involved. So it is about convincing the jury. If he has enough money to pay a lawyer, who can convince the jury, he can win, no matter, what happened. That's why this system is not trustworthy.

Kyle Rittenhouse shot at people who were threatening him with his life. It is taped, clearly on video. Not very complicating and difficult to process.

Actually, everything else then self-defense claim, was a grey area. Was he justified to cross the state border, what was he doing in that community, was he protecting it or agitating, was he allowed to "open carry" etc. All this questions are gray area. What is most important in this case is, was he acting in self-defense and the answer is clear, yes!

It is also important how people looked at this story. Did they wanted to see Kyle dead, stomped by angry mob? In most cases from the people on "left" the answer would be, yes. "We would love see him being stomped by the mob". But this is not law justice, it is rule of crowds, got nothing to do with democracy and rule of law.

I am not talking about this specific case. Maybe the judgement was right, maybe not. That's irrelevant for my point. My point is, that the judgement rests on convincing people (the jury) with words.If you can pay a specialist to do this, you can get away with everything.

Not when it comes to human rights and freedom. I disagree strongly, there is no attorney who could win against breaching of basic human rights. Like I said before, you either go by the words written in the law or you don't. But if you don't, you can't still pretend you are living in a democracy.

What? Because I see reality for what it is, you're telling me I would accept tyranny? I wouldn't care? Because you don't get your act together it's my fault or what? No, we don't live in a democracy, and I never pretended that we did. Especially since I know about state terrorism against the population in Germany, they killed bystanders to pretend there are terrorists in the country.

"The only thing missing in modern USA are gulaks" - Yes, within the country they don't have any yet but "overseas", however, the prison industry is flourishing.

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I have no idea what you're blabling about sweety. And yes, you already accepted tyranny in Germany..

[Matjaz]

And that's it...

yep, we don't care. And the managment knows it.

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If you don't care please speak for yourself and dont' say "we".

If we would care there would be a worldwide mass revolution going on right now but all I see is sporadic demonstration here and there and mostly is just walks on city avenues, nothing that the elite can't handle or just ignore, business as usual. Dogs barks caravan continues on...in other words, WE DONT CARE

[Matjaz]

My favorite for French elections already causing huge butthurt among antifa. Polls predict him big advantage over La Pen.
These antifa in black shirts seem to be beaten out of his rally yesterday.

A fight between anti-racism activists and supporters of French presidential candidate Eric Zemmour broke out at his first campaign rally on Sunday, a few days after he declared his candidacy in a video highlighting his anti-immigrant and anti-Islam views https://t.co/DSWEgtLBFc pic.twitter.com/K4bidptB80

— Bloomberg Quicktake (@Quicktake) December 6, 2021

[Matjaz]

And that's it...

yep, we don't care. And the managment knows it.

.

If you don't care please speak for yourself and dont' say "we".

If we would care there would be a worldwide mass revolution going on right now but all I see is sporadic demonstration here and there and mostly is just walks on city avenues, nothing that the elite can't handle or just ignore, business as usual. Dogs barks caravan continues on...in other words, WE DONT CARE

Don't give me dislikes sweets it is immature and childish behavior. If you can then counter my thinking, arguments, facts and so on. That's how civilized people discuss, these likes/dislikes crap is for immatures that don't have capability to participate but great need to counter nonetheless. It is lazy..  

[Böhse Tante]

And that's it...

yep, we don't care. And the managment knows it.

.

If you don't care please speak for yourself and dont' say "we".

If we would care there would be a worldwide mass revolution going on right now but all I see is sporadic demonstration here and there and mostly is just walks on city avenues, nothing that the elite can't handle or just ignore, business as usual. Dogs barks caravan continues on...in other words, WE DONT CARE

Don't give me dislikes sweets it is immature and childish behavior. If you can then counter my thinking, arguments, facts and so on. That's how civilized people discuss, these likes/dislikes crap is for immatures that don't have capability to participate but great need to counter nonetheless. It is lazy..  

Ok, I'll be blunt, I think you're a typical troll, and you chose me as your victim after agency guidance. Your childish whining all the time about the "evil world" is a pretence to fish for sympathy.

I no longer believe anything you pretend to be here.

[Böhse Tante]

@Matjaz

I am me and not "we"! I don't let any group adopt me. I didn't think you were such a collectivist.

But it's nice that you reproach others for what you can't manage yourself. And don't call me "sweety", that just sounds ridiculous coming from a youngster. It's not my fault you're scared shitless.

"And yes, you already accepted tyranny in Germany."

No, I haven't. Stop your cheeky insinuations or I can blame you for accepting tyranny in Slovenia.

But it could also be that you only want to create confusion and sabotage with your accusations against others. Are you bored?

[KneelB4Zod!]

conspiracybot
@conspiracyb0t
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How come no one remembers the mysterious deaths of all the microbiologists a few years before the "pandemic"?

[KneelB4Zod!]

So is this #Russia threatening #Ukraine with invasion or #Kiev's regime threatening its own population in #Donbass? https://t.co/aqxOaVsBMw

— peter pobjecky - #FreeAssange (@peterpobjecky) December 6, 2021

First pic is epic. What a bunch of sad clowns...

[KneelB4Zod!]

Btw...

Nikolay Belyaev, last living soldier to have taken part in the storming of the Reichstag in 1945

[Wiltshire Cat]

US Empire Seizes UK’s National Health Service

One of the recent roles of the Parliamentary Healthcare Committee has been to reassure the British public that any claims regarding the ‘Americanization’ of the National Health Service (NHS) were wildly overstated, “creating a climate that risks blocking the joining up of services in the interests of patients.”

In fact, the penetration of the healthcare system by the giant U.S. insurer UnitedHealth reveals the opposite to be true, with the full extent of its influence capable of surprising even seasoned NHS watchers.

https://consortiumnews.com/2021/12/06/us-empire-seizes-uks-national-health-service/

[Matjaz]

And that's it...

yep, we don't care. And the managment knows it.

.

If you don't care please speak for yourself and dont' say "we".

If we would care there would be a worldwide mass revolution going on right now but all I see is sporadic demonstration here and there and mostly is just walks on city avenues, nothing that the elite can't handle or just ignore, business as usual. Dogs barks caravan continues on...in other words, WE DONT CARE

Don't give me dislikes sweets it is immature and childish behavior. If you can then counter my thinking, arguments, facts and so on. That's how civilized people discuss, these likes/dislikes crap is for immatures that don't have capability to participate but great need to counter nonetheless. It is lazy..  

Ok, I'll be blunt, I think you're a typical troll, and you chose me as your victim after agency guidance. Your childish whining all the time about the "evil world" is a pretence to fish for sympathy.

I no longer believe anything you pretend to be here.

It is your right to think so, I don't blame you for nothing. I didn't chose you, it is you who reply to my posts not me okay and telling me "I should get my act together". For starters, it would be nice to explain to me, what is wrong with my act and how I should "get it together"? All I write is the truth or what I believe is the truth. So, if I say that humanity does not care about whether we are treated the way we are, how is this whining?? Do tell me, does police care about tyranny when it beats on demonstrators worldwide, in Australia, New Zealand, Germany, Slovenia....DO THEY CARE when they beat on us, enforcing tyranny? Or they care only about three hundred euro check bonus from authorities that they receive for beatings on their compatriots? Does the police care? Well, do they?? Oh, I'm whining cause I'm telling you the obvious, right?! Does police care? How long we will have to wait before police will start to care, tell me? You believe that in the end they will step on our side, or they'll just continue the beatings and enforcing of the elites will? They will wait until things become like 1940's Germany? How long we need to wait before they care?

How in the fuck would you ever believe that I fish for sympathy? What sympathy, from what?? And last, why would you think I want you or anyone else to believe in me or what I represent or pretend or whatever....Its just discussions of ordinary people, that's all. I don't look for your approval or anyone elses rofl...Tell me how am I a troll or where do I troll anybody? That is such a blunt as you said, on first ball accusation. Please give me an example where I troll you or anyone else!

[Matjaz]

@Matjaz

I am me and not "we"! I don't let any group adopt me. I didn't think you were such a collectivist.

But it's nice that you reproach others for what you can't manage yourself. And don't call me "sweety", that just sounds ridiculous coming from a youngster. It's not my fault you're scared shitless.

"And yes, you already accepted tyranny in Germany."

No, I haven't. Stop your cheeky insinuations or I can blame you for accepting tyranny in Slovenia.

But it could also be that you only want to create confusion and sabotage with your accusations against others. Are you bored?

confusion, sabotage?!¨FFS, where?? We were talking yesterday about whether an individual has a solid case to take authorities to courts and sue them for the situation authorities put him in during last two years.

What confusion or sabotage are you talking about ffs woman?

[KneelB4Zod!]

Oh c'mon...

[Matjaz]

Oh c'mon...

I mean seriously, she accused me to work for an agency and I'm some sort of an agent trying to disrupt you guys and sabotage ffs. If she's okay in her head then I'm a santaclaus...

[KneelB4Zod!]

Oh c'mon...

I mean seriously, she accused me to work for an agency and I'm some sort of an agent trying to disrupt you guys and sabotage ffs. If she's okay in her head then I'm a santaclaus...

It's just misunderstanding, folks. You wrote "we don't care" and Auntie took it personally. I know WE care. You care, I care, she cares. Otherwise, we wouldn't be here, right? I know Bohse well enough to understand that she dislikes generalizations. And I know you well enough too and I understand what did you mean. Just don't waste time with pointless arguing over misunderstanding. Toast?

[KneelB4Zod!]

[Guest 12]

Meanwhile Great Moscow chess player talks with senile pants shitter tomorrow. Watch the chess player beg for legal guarantees, what a joke. He already sold out Iran and Syria to be bombed by smirking Zionists, of-course he will sell out Donbas and probably Ru.F as well, and I don’t care how many sycophants come out of the woodwork and apologize for him.

All he has managed to do is INCREASE the aggressive NATO on his border; he had the initiative and lost it. Igor Strelkov was right about him. A man worth obscene monies and fine mansions and young pretty wife is not going to shake boat too much. All his friends live in the West like London too. Too bad for Russia, to have such a sell out.

[Matjaz]

Oh c'mon...

I mean seriously, she accused me to work for an agency and I'm some sort of an agent trying to disrupt you guys and sabotage ffs. If she's okay in her head then I'm a santaclaus...

It's just misunderstanding, folks. You wrote "we don't care" and Auntie took it personally. I know WE care. You care, I care, she cares. Otherwise, we wouldn't be here, right? I know Bohse well enough to understand that she dislikes generalizations. And I know you well enough too and I understand what did you mean. Just don't waste time with pointless arguing over misunderstanding. Toast?

sure, as long as I'm not an agent and troll and whateverelse...

[Abacus]

Jeremy
@loffredojeremy (December 6, 2021)

Never forget that NYT reported public health servant Bill Gates was hanging out with sex trafficker Epstein
“quite late” because “a very attractive Swedish woman and her daughter dropped by”

nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
twitter.com/loffredojeremy/status/1467732298112065536

[Abacus]

(January 29, 2010) Bill and Melinda Gates Pledge US$ 10 Billion in Call for “Decade of Vaccines”
Bill and Melinda Gates announced that their foundation will commit US$ 10 billion
over the next 10 years to help research, develop and deliver vaccines
for the world’s poorest countries. “We must make this the decade of vaccines,” said Bill Gates,
speaking at the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.
Bill and Melinda Gates were joined at the press conference by Julian Lob-Levyt,
Chief Executive Officer of the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunisation (the GAVI Alliance),
which was launched at the World Economic Forum 10 years ago this week.
weforum.org/agenda/2010/01/bill-and-melinda-gates-pledge-us-10-billion-in-call-for-decade-of-vaccines/

[Wiltshire Cat]

A little bit background to Ethioia
Will Ethiopia Become Biden’s Libya 2.0 or a Driver for an African Renaissance?
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/12/05/will-ethiopia-become-bidens-libya-2-or-driver-for-african-renaissance/

[Abacus]

(November 11, 2014) Bill Gates praises German investment in global health
Bill Gates has met with Angela Merkel in Berlin. The former Microsoft CEO and the German chancellor
have discussed the need to invest in health care in developing nations.
Germany will host a conference for supporters of the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization(GAVI)
in January, to which the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is the largest private donor.
German Development Minister Gerd Müller also met with Gates. Afterward, Müller announced that the federal government "plans to increase our support for GAVI
by 40 million euros yearly - provided that the Bundestag agrees."Müller wants to give nearly 500 million euros ($620 million) in total to GAVI-led projects by 2020.
dw.com/en/bill-gates-praises-german-investment-in-global-health/a-18057408

[Abacus]

(January 28, 2015) World must prepare for 'war' against a global pandemic: Gates
Berlin (AFP) - Billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates says the world must use the lessons from battling Ebola
to prepare for any future "war" against a global killer disease, with the help of new technology.
Gates, in Berlin for a donor conference of the GAVI alliance bringing vaccines
to poor countries, said the risk of a worldwide pandemic meant it was reckless not to act now.
"A more difficult pathogen (than Ebola) could come along, a form of flu, a form of SARS
or some type of virus that we haven't seen before," he said in an interview with AFP.
news.yahoo.com/world-must-prepare-war-against-global-pandemic-gates-041627810.html

[Abacus]

(2018-2019) EU Commission proposal for a common vaccination card/passport for EU citizens by 2022
Examine the feasibility of developing a common vaccination card/passport
for EU citizens (that takes into account potentially different national vaccination schedules and),
that is compatible with electronic immunisation information systems and recognised for use across borders,
without duplicating work at national level.
ec.europa.eu/health/sites/default/files/vaccination/docs/2019-2022_roadmap_en.pdf

[Zambeezi]

4th reich is approaching and I really hope "Soviets" will take it all down to the shores of Spain and beyond this time.

Was ist der Große Zapfenstreich? Welche Bedeutung hat er heute und wo kommt er her?

Bevor es hier losgeht, ein kurzes Erklärstück #ICYMI: pic.twitter.com/JMpAkXNPN8

— Verteidigungsministerium (@BMVg_Bundeswehr) December 2, 2021

When I look at the new ministers in Germany, it gets scary. The new Minister of the Interior sees the most important thing as fighting right-wing extremism. Since all opponents of vaccination and critics of measures have now been identified as right-wing extremists, you can guess what's coming. After the Foreign Minister Baerbock, the second hysterical paranoiac, Karl Lauterbach, joins the cabinet as Health Minister, but he really belongs in the loony bin. His ex-wife, the epidemiologist and doctor Angela Spelsberg, has urgently warned against him, and those who know his appearances realise that there really is something wrong with the man.

[Wiltshire Cat]

https://www.achgut.com/images/archiv/_568w/munch.jpg

[Böhse Tante]

Calcidiol and cholecalciferol missing from EMA list

https://www.zodlikeproductions.net/t249p90-corona-ausgesuchte-texte-und-forenbeitrage#116737

The author of this article seems to assume a certain positive effect of the vaccines, but the point is that in Germany here, people are working with obvious lies regarding vitamin D. Previous scientific findings are virtually denied. The procedure in other European countries is partly quite different.

I have translated the article into English. Start of the article:

"It seems that the heads behind the EMA are just as dependent on the pharmaceutical industry as the members of the DIVI in Germany.

The content of a mail I wrote to all prime ministers fits in with this.
It is about a treatment recommendation of the DIVI for COVID-10 patients, which can be described as a recommendation to refrain from helping.
(DIVI = German Association of Internal Medicine)
And it is about the fact that, due to a rejected motion in the Bundestag in July 2020, the pandemic here is significantly worse than it would otherwise have been. This motion was about informing the population about the correlation between vitamin D and the severity of the course of a COVID-19 disease. In France, England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland, the governments had already informed the respective populations about this a month in advance.
..."

Even though I suspect that such letters end up in the trash anyway, the explanations in them could be interesting.

Forgot this important part: of the vaccines

[Böhse Tante]

https://www.achgut.com/images/archiv/_568w/munch.jpg

Shat, I have no printer ...

[Luda]

Meanwhile Great Moscow chess player talks with senile pants shitter tomorrow.  Watch the chess player beg for legal guarantees, what a joke.  He already sold out Iran and Syria to be bombed by smirking Zionists, of-course he will sell out Donbas and probably Ru.F as well, and I don’t care how many sycophants come out of the woodwork and apologize for him.

All he has managed to do is INCREASE the aggressive NATO on his border; he had the initiative and lost it.  Igor Strelkov was right about him.  A man worth obscene monies and fine mansions and young pretty wife is not going to shake boat too much.  All his friends live in the West like London too.  Too bad for Russia, to have such a sell out.

Something your brain will understand enjoy

[Böhse Tante]

What interpreters will soon have to face when our Foreign Minister "travels" abroad:


We already have a National Security Council, and in this coalition agreement we have made it very, very clear for climate policy, but also for European policy, which will not only be looked after alone from one department, but cross-sectionally in all areas of the next federal government, as is already the case, and so cooperation will take place jointly in this coalition both in European policy, but also in common foreign policy and also, as you mentioned, in security policy.

Foreign Minister designate Annalena Baerbock

I suspect they will demand pain and suffering as an additional payment. But even the best knowledge of German leaves one rather perplexed by this unstructured drivel.

Here is the original:

Wir haben ja schon jetzt einen Nationalen Sicherheitsrat, und wir haben in diesem Koalitionsvertrag, das haben wir für die Klimapolitik deutlich gemacht, aber auch für die Europa-Politik sehr, sehr deutlich gemacht, die ja nicht nur aus einem Ressort heraus betreut alleine wird, sondern querschnittsmäßig in allen Bereichen der nächsten Bundesregierung, wie das bisher auch schon der Fall ist, und so wird die Zusammenarbeit sowohl in der Europapolitik, aber auch in der gemeinsamen Außen- und eben auch, wie sie angesprochen haben, in der Sicherheitspolitik, gemeinsam in dieser Koalition erfolgen.

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