Re: #42 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe

[The_Real_Mr_Anderson]

Shaun King
@shaunking
·
6h
Iraq’s Parliament voted 170-0 to expel the American military from the country.

The President of Iraq agreed.

After years of the US saying it wants Iraq to be a democracy, Trump is now ignoring the will of this democratic nation and refusing to pull troops - even threatening it.

Masks fall...

I'd agree with this 100% if it wasn't for the fact that Iraq isn't exactly free from influence elsewhere, but change is needed and by this I mean in principle he is ignoring democracy however the vote itself wasn't free from question

It's not only Trump, its US influence overall. It's toxic, impossible under the gunpoint. "Do businesses with us or face sanctions. Do what as we say or face invasion."

There's fundamental difference between such mafia practices and fair offers of cooperation. Or natural cooperation between the bordering countries.

Indeed there is however its still a grey line in comparison as Iran will not now relinquish influence over Iraq nor would they allow anything to occur that would threaten their control not so different to the US in that regards but there is more at stake then what the US risks against itself.

I can't concur. What are you talking about is seeking for cooperation between the two countries which share common border. It's in best interest of both to have friendly, bilaterall realtions. It's the US that tries to hamper any such attempt because, from its safety, tries to change local politics, just for own profit. For Iran it is matter of national security if there will, or will not, be western backed jihadists in Iraq. Thus Iran was the first one, who responded to such threat. Because Iran, and every sane person, knows that ISIS and al-Qaeda were injedted and cultivated in Iraq only to destroy Iran. And Syria. You still compare two totally different things.

I agree with Iran entering Iraq and it being in their best interests to do so given that its was already combating groups in Syria and with ISIS move ever further south & eastwards in Iraq ut wouldn't have been long before they were in Iran as was the plan from the start...

But my thoughts are more for the future, correct me if I'm wrong (not to certain on this point) but Shia hasn't always had it easy in Iraq and had only really gained majority in recent times more so in the power stakes Saddam wasn't a Shia fan either...

Would Iran accept a Sunni government or one that was independent of Iranian influence & would they allow that to be an idea or would they enforce the Shia Government?

[Böhse Tante]

#Video

Pictures of martyrs Lt. General #Soleimani and Abu Mehdi al-Muhandis have been installed in front of the US embassy building in the capital Baghdad.
The two have been assassinated by Washington airstrike in Iraq.#Iran pic.twitter.com/3fgkcUawJk

— Iran (@Iran) January 7, 2020

Now that’s a statement.

Shit, I have no pics of him, wanted to pin it somewhere near the US Fort here in Frankfurt with some candles and flowers.

[The_Real_Mr_Anderson]

Interesting path of the #USAF 59-1513 (K35R) avoided the French airspace. pic.twitter.com/FhjSjX1EdO

— INTELSky (@Intel_Sky) January 7, 2020

Nuke?

But why not German airspace? 

Depends on its destination and I'd assume route clearance?

But I'm aware there were a lot of avoidance flights with regards to France last month because of Strikes

[The_Real_Mr_Anderson]

Aurora Intel (@AuroraIntel) Tweeted:
Burial of Qassem Soleimani has been postponed due to the stampede in the procession earlier. https://twitter.com/AuroraIntel/status/1214519701243650048?s=20

[Böhse Tante]

Horrific scenes from Kerman, #Iran, as at least 35 people announced dead so far after a stampede during the funeral of Soleimani. pic.twitter.com/K5C8lsvjEO

— H. Sumeri (@IraqiSecurity) January 7, 2020

I wonder why there’s so many stampedes at Islamic events. It happens frequently at the hajj.

Can happen anywhere wit such crowds. Several years ago we had one here in Germany at the "Love Parade" with many deaths and injuries. There were other events too, for example big soccer games in other countries.

[The Original Mind]

Horrific scenes from Kerman, #Iran, as at least 35 people announced dead so far after a stampede during the funeral of Soleimani. pic.twitter.com/K5C8lsvjEO

— H. Sumeri (@IraqiSecurity) January 7, 2020

I wonder why there’s so many stampedes at Islamic events. It happens frequently at the hajj.

Can happen anywhere wit such crowds. Several years ago we had one here in Germany at the "Love Parade" with many deaths and injuries. There were other events too, for example big soccer games in other countries.

Interesting. Another case of biased reporting in the media then.

[The Original Mind]

#Nujaba force spokesman confirmed to me that a meeting for the so called 'Resistance Iraqi Forces' will be held in #Tehran not #Baghdad in the next 48 hours to discuss the response to the killing of Soleimani and the Muhandes.

— Feras Kilani فراس كيلاني (@FerasKilaniBBC) January 7, 2020

[The Original Mind]

“If we see a full blown war it would be very damaging and actually the terrorists... would be the only winners"

UK Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab calls for de-escalation of tensions in the Middle Easthttps://t.co/SH16Mdm3s3 pic.twitter.com/biuBhKx9x6

— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) January 7, 2020

[KneelB4Zod!]

Shaun King
@shaunking
·
6h
Iraq’s Parliament voted 170-0 to expel the American military from the country.

The President of Iraq agreed.

After years of the US saying it wants Iraq to be a democracy, Trump is now ignoring the will of this democratic nation and refusing to pull troops - even threatening it.

Masks fall...

I'd agree with this 100% if it wasn't for the fact that Iraq isn't exactly free from influence elsewhere, but change is needed and by this I mean in principle he is ignoring democracy however the vote itself wasn't free from question

It's not only Trump, its US influence overall. It's toxic, impossible under the gunpoint. "Do businesses with us or face sanctions. Do what as we say or face invasion."

There's fundamental difference between such mafia practices and fair offers of cooperation. Or natural cooperation between the bordering countries.

Indeed there is however its still a grey line in comparison as Iran will not now relinquish influence over Iraq nor would they allow anything to occur that would threaten their control not so different to the US in that regards but there is more at stake then what the US risks against itself.

I can't concur. What are you talking about is seeking for cooperation between the two countries which share common border. It's in best interest of both to have friendly, bilaterall realtions. It's the US that tries to hamper any such attempt because, from its safety, tries to change local politics, just for own profit. For Iran it is matter of national security if there will, or will not, be western backed jihadists in Iraq. Thus Iran was the first one, who responded to such threat. Because Iran, and every sane person, knows that ISIS and al-Qaeda were injedted and cultivated in Iraq only to destroy Iran. And Syria. You still compare two totally different things.

I agree with Iran entering Iraq and it being in their best interests to do so given that its was already combating groups in Syria and with ISIS move ever further south & eastwards in Iraq ut wouldn't have been long before they were in Iran as was the plan from the start...

But my thoughts are more for the future, correct me if I'm wrong (not to certain on this point) but Shia hasn't always had it easy in Iraq and had only really gained majority in recent times more so in the power stakes Saddam wasn't a Shia fan either...

Would Iran accept a Sunni government or one that was independent of Iranian influence & would they allow that to be an idea or would they enforce the Shia Government?

This sectarian point of view is oftenly used as tool to divide the region. It's being fueled and strenghted with support for extremist wahhabi and salafi groups. Here I can only speculate and share my thoghts. Considering that Iran had no problem to work together with largerly secular Syria and its mostly Sunni army, or the fact there is no problem in relations with Orthodox Russia or Armenia I would say Iran wouldn't have issue with Sunni government in Iraq. With Saddam's Sunni government was major problem that it was used as US proxy force during the Iran/Iraq war. This war was reslt of unsuccessful US attempt to impose dictator Pahlavi in Iran after they overthrew Mosadek. Just imagine that - without that US coup the whole regional dynamics would be completely different.

And just note at end. I think it was @partisangirl who wrote a few days ago on twitter something like following: "Plan following US invasion to Iraq was that - let be Iraq Shia, with Iranian influence and, meanwhile, overthrow Syrian government and replace it with Sunni hardliners. Then let them fight each other as long as possible. As their plan failed )thanks to Russia) Iranian presence in Iraq is uncomfortable for the hegemons." It sounds very likely and goes along all other evil plans made by the globalists imho.

[The_Real_Mr_Anderson]

Shaun King
@shaunking
·
6h
Iraq’s Parliament voted 170-0 to expel the American military from the country.

The President of Iraq agreed.

After years of the US saying it wants Iraq to be a democracy, Trump is now ignoring the will of this democratic nation and refusing to pull troops - even threatening it.

Masks fall...

I'd agree with this 100% if it wasn't for the fact that Iraq isn't exactly free from influence elsewhere, but change is needed and by this I mean in principle he is ignoring democracy however the vote itself wasn't free from question

It's not only Trump, its US influence overall. It's toxic, impossible under the gunpoint. "Do businesses with us or face sanctions. Do what as we say or face invasion."

There's fundamental difference between such mafia practices and fair offers of cooperation. Or natural cooperation between the bordering countries.

Indeed there is however its still a grey line in comparison as Iran will not now relinquish influence over Iraq nor would they allow anything to occur that would threaten their control not so different to the US in that regards but there is more at stake then what the US risks against itself.

I can't concur. What are you talking about is seeking for cooperation between the two countries which share common border. It's in best interest of both to have friendly, bilaterall realtions. It's the US that tries to hamper any such attempt because, from its safety, tries to change local politics, just for own profit. For Iran it is matter of national security if there will, or will not, be western backed jihadists in Iraq. Thus Iran was the first one, who responded to such threat. Because Iran, and every sane person, knows that ISIS and al-Qaeda were injedted and cultivated in Iraq only to destroy Iran. And Syria. You still compare two totally different things.

I agree with Iran entering Iraq and it being in their best interests to do so given that its was already combating groups in Syria and with ISIS move ever further south & eastwards in Iraq ut wouldn't have been long before they were in Iran as was the plan from the start...

But my thoughts are more for the future, correct me if I'm wrong (not to certain on this point) but Shia hasn't always had it easy in Iraq and had only really gained majority in recent times more so in the power stakes Saddam wasn't a Shia fan either...

Would Iran accept a Sunni government or one that was independent of Iranian influence & would they allow that to be an idea or would they enforce the Shia Government?

This sectarian point of view is oftenly used as tool to divide the region. It's being fueled and strenghted with support for extremist wahhabi and salafi groups. Here I can only speculate and share my thoghts. Considering that Iran had no problem to work together with largerly secular Syria and its mostly Sunni army, or the fact there is no problem in relations with Orthodox Russia or Armenia I would say Iran wouldn't have issue with Sunni government in Iraq. With Saddam's Sunni government was major problem that it was used as US proxy force during the Iran/Iraq war. This war was reslt of unsuccessful US attempt to impose dictator Pahlavi in Iran after they overthrew Mosadek. Just imagine that - without that US coup the whole regional dynamics would be completely different.

And just note at end. I think it was @partisangirl who wrote a few days ago on twitter something like following: "Plan following US invasion to Iraq was that - let be Iraq Shia, with Iranian influence and, meanwhile, overthrow Syrian government and replace it with Sunni hardliners. Then let them fight each other as long as possible. As their plan failed )thanks to Russia) Iranian presence in Iraq is uncomfortable for the hegemons." It sounds very likely and goes along all other evil plans made by the globalists imho.

Yeah that's a fair view I guess ultimately the future will tell us all we need to know so long as we remember the now.

[Böhse Tante]

Many of these cultural places are not only "Iranian" but also heritage of mankind.

In an powerful message—Iranian artist, Mohammad Hassan Fourouzan, raises a while flag ️on iconic historical #IranianCulturalSites
Read:  https://t.co/EDuQ3iHFMH @designboom pic.twitter.com/Y3Mo0o4Pz7

— AtiehS (@AtiehS) 7. Januar 2020

For a shitty "revenge" these cultureless scumbags would even bomb the pyramids in egypt or the Tadj Mahal in India. There would be many people around the globe who would not like this, especially many scientists.

Another thing is that Soleimany was not only some General, he was kind of "Superstar", famous for his fight against terrorists. Not only in Iran but in the whole region and several further countries. 

It's a bit as if SU had blown up JFK with a bomb. To understand WHAT the USA has done. They had even enraged many people here in Germany who usually are no friends of the Iran "regime".

[KneelB4Zod!]

#SoleimaniAssassination has brought the Iranian people around the world together - @georgegalloway
pic.twitter.com/61ElWIk09E

— nonouzi (@Gerrrty) January 7, 2020

[Zambeezi]

Horrific scenes from Kerman, #Iran, as at least 35 people announced dead so far after a stampede during the funeral of Soleimani. pic.twitter.com/K5C8lsvjEO

— H. Sumeri (@IraqiSecurity) January 7, 2020

I wonder why there’s so many stampedes at Islamic events. It happens frequently at the hajj.

Can happen anywhere wit such crowds. Several years ago we had one here in Germany at the "Love Parade" with many deaths and injuries. There were other events too, for example big soccer games in other countries.

what happens? in dense crowds people fall like bowling pins.. push/stumble/panic/fall.... people on bottom of pile can't inflate their lungs cuz of weight.
typical cause of death is suffocation and punctured lungs/fractured ribs.

[The_Real_Mr_Anderson]

https://twitter.com/InstaNewsAlerts/status/1214541968405155840?s=20

US officials say #Iran has been making military moves as well as repositioning forces, though it's not clear at this point whether they are offensive or defensive in nature. One official said the U.S. anticipated a “major” attack of some type within the next day or two. (AP)

[KneelB4Zod!]

WW3 Updates
@ww3updates
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9m
US Military traffic within the US continent is abnormally high, especially troop and equipment movement according to open source flight radar readings.

[Zambeezi]

Image: Iraqi military officers walk over a U.S. flag at an event in Baghdad organized by the Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF) to honor IRGC Quds Force chief Qasem Soleimani and PMF leader Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis following their deaths in a U.S. airstrike. pic.twitter.com/5TpFqR0D3U

— Evan Kohlmann (@IntelTweet) January 7, 2020

[Zambeezi]

Iraqi Kata’ib Hezbollah militia says if US imposes sanctions on Iraq, militia will work with friends to stop US oil shipments in the Gulf. https://t.co/4pHfOJeMBv

— David M. Witty (@DavidMWitty1) January 6, 2020

[The Original Mind]

Shaun King
@shaunking
·
6h
Iraq’s Parliament voted 170-0 to expel the American military from the country.

The President of Iraq agreed.

After years of the US saying it wants Iraq to be a democracy, Trump is now ignoring the will of this democratic nation and refusing to pull troops - even threatening it.

Masks fall...

I'd agree with this 100% if it wasn't for the fact that Iraq isn't exactly free from influence elsewhere, but change is needed and by this I mean in principle he is ignoring democracy however the vote itself wasn't free from question

It's not only Trump, its US influence overall. It's toxic, impossible under the gunpoint. "Do businesses with us or face sanctions. Do what as we say or face invasion."

There's fundamental difference between such mafia practices and fair offers of cooperation. Or natural cooperation between the bordering countries.

Indeed there is however its still a grey line in comparison as Iran will not now relinquish influence over Iraq nor would they allow anything to occur that would threaten their control not so different to the US in that regards but there is more at stake then what the US risks against itself.

I can't concur. What are you talking about is seeking for cooperation between the two countries which share common border. It's in best interest of both to have friendly, bilaterall realtions. It's the US that tries to hamper any such attempt because, from its safety, tries to change local politics, just for own profit. For Iran it is matter of national security if there will, or will not, be western backed jihadists in Iraq. Thus Iran was the first one, who responded to such threat. Because Iran, and every sane person, knows that ISIS and al-Qaeda were injedted and cultivated in Iraq only to destroy Iran. And Syria. You still compare two totally different things.

I agree with Iran entering Iraq and it being in their best interests to do so given that its was already combating groups in Syria and with ISIS move ever further south & eastwards in Iraq ut wouldn't have been long before they were in Iran as was the plan from the start...

But my thoughts are more for the future, correct me if I'm wrong (not to certain on this point) but Shia hasn't always had it easy in Iraq and had only really gained majority in recent times more so in the power stakes Saddam wasn't a Shia fan either...

Would Iran accept a Sunni government or one that was independent of Iranian influence & would they allow that to be an idea or would they enforce the Shia Government?

This sectarian point of view is oftenly used as tool to divide the region. It's being fueled and strenghted with support for extremist wahhabi and salafi groups. Here I can only speculate and share my thoghts. Considering that Iran had no problem to work together with largerly secular Syria and its mostly Sunni army, or the fact there is no problem in relations with Orthodox Russia or Armenia I would say Iran wouldn't have issue with Sunni government in Iraq. With Saddam's Sunni government was major problem that it was used as US proxy force during the Iran/Iraq war. This war was reslt of unsuccessful US attempt to impose dictator Pahlavi in Iran after they overthrew Mosadek. Just imagine that - without that US coup the whole regional dynamics would be completely different.

And just note at end. I think it was @partisangirl who wrote a few days ago on twitter something like following: "Plan following US invasion to Iraq was that - let be Iraq Shia, with Iranian influence and, meanwhile, overthrow Syrian government and replace it with Sunni hardliners. Then let them fight each other as long as possible. As their plan failed )thanks to Russia) Iranian presence in Iraq is uncomfortable for the hegemons." It sounds very likely and goes along all other evil plans made by the globalists imho.

That’s a fair theory. I’d just point out the historical tension and conflicts between Islamic sects and the resurgence of such tension in Iraq (eg between the Sunni tribes and Shia majority army).

This said, the region has demonstrated that politics is tied up with this divide (the tribes want independence, whether from a Sunni or Shia central government) and we know that regional peace and prosperity is possible with a strong central government.

What none of us has seen is a post ottoman Middle East in which the rest of the world leaves the region to its own devices. Until the west, Russia, and China leave the region alone, we won’t know with certainty how these islamic factions will interact.

[Zambeezi]

Horrific scenes from Kerman, #Iran, as at least 35 people announced dead so far after a stampede during the funeral of Soleimani. pic.twitter.com/K5C8lsvjEO

— H. Sumeri (@IraqiSecurity) January 7, 2020

I wonder why there’s so many stampedes at Islamic events. It happens frequently at the hajj.

Can happen anywhere wit such crowds. Several years ago we had one here in Germany at the "Love Parade" with many deaths and injuries. There were other events too, for example big soccer games in other countries.

what happens? in dense crowds people fall like bowling pins.. push/stumble/panic/fall.... people on bottom of pile can't inflate their lungs cuz of weight.
typical cause of death is suffocation and punctured lungs/fractured ribs.

per Iranian TV: 40 deaths, 213 injured

#BREAKING
Kerman, south-central #Iran
Burial of Soleimani postponed after at least 35 die, 48 wounded in stampede during funeral, according to state TV pic.twitter.com/6UcOpBUx63

— Heshmat Alavi (@HeshmatAlavi) January 7, 2020

[The Original Mind]

#TRUMP Didn't. Even. Know. Who #Soleimani Was!!! pic.twitter.com/LGSVJq02fM

— Syrian Girl :flag_sy: (@Partisangirl) January 7, 2020

Oh my...

[Zambeezi]

1st/
All of Pentagon members, companies and institutions belonging to US commanders and elemnts who were involved in Solleimanis assasination and CENTOM as well, will be designated as terrorists.

— Aleph ᴼⁿ ᴴⁱᵍʰ ᴬˡᵉʳᵗ ️ א (@no_itsmyturn) January 7, 2020

'ALL...companies, institutions 'involved'... designated as terrorists.'

Urgent law for designation of the US army as a terror organization  has just approved by the Islamic Consultative Assembly (Iranian parliament)

Translation to follow.. pic.twitter.com/gbqXLYKt6j

— Aleph ᴼⁿ ᴴⁱᵍʰ ᴬˡᵉʳᵗ ️ א (@no_itsmyturn) January 7, 2020

The bill has been passed by the majority of Iran parliament members while they were chanting "Death to America" !!! pic.twitter.com/dg3zcxfiqf

— Aleph ᴼⁿ ᴴⁱᵍʰ ᴬˡᵉʳᵗ ️ א (@no_itsmyturn) January 7, 2020

[boris]

LIVE 45 mins from now....
LIVE: Pompeo delivers remarks to the press in Washington DC


better get the popcorn ready

[Zambeezi]

#Russia|n President Putin is in Damascus #Syria where he met Bashar Al Assad. This is the first visit to #Damascus in a long time, the meeting was after the Soleimani assassination.

— Aurora Intel (@AuroraIntel) January 7, 2020

[The Original Mind]

BREAKING: #Russia President Putin is in Damascus #Syria where he met Bashar Al Assad.

First such visit (to Damascus) in long time. Follows Suleimani killing https://t.co/9SRzANe7ME

— Joyce Karam (@Joyce_Karam) January 7, 2020

[The Original Mind]

Spain's parliament has elected Socialist leader Pedro Sanchez as prime minister to head a leftist coalition government

— Sky News Breaking (@SkyNewsBreak) January 7, 2020

[boris]

#Russia|n President Putin is in Damascus #Syria where he met Bashar Al Assad. This is the first visit to #Damascus in a long time, the meeting was after the Soleimani assassination.

— Aurora Intel (@AuroraIntel) January 7, 2020

[boris]

[Zambeezi]

According to reports Putin has been out and about in #Damascus and plans to visit other locations In Syria over the coming days. pic.twitter.com/brirGzY8Q2

— Danny Makki (@Dannymakkisyria) January 7, 2020

Interesting that the meeting took place at the Russian headquarters rather than the presidential palace as protocol would stipulate, but I guess protocol and Russia dont go hand in hand when it comes to Syria.

— Danny Makki (@Dannymakkisyria) January 7, 2020

(diplomatic protocol is subordinate to security when 'madmen' are loose.)

[Mr Badger]

WW3 Updates
‏@ww3updates

BREAKING: The Ukrainian military deploys ground forces and AA guns on the frontline with Donbass. #WW3Update #NorthernFront

https://twitter.com/ww3updates/status/1214560093502459906

[boris]

LIVE 45 mins from now....
LIVE: Pompeo delivers remarks to the press in Washington DC


better get the popcorn ready

LIVE NOW!!