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Iran standing down, no one hurt. no threats of any other action.
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Meaning de-escalation...
Obviously depending on what's next
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Humanity Blows wrote:So, no military action, seems like de-escalation for now.
Both sides are trying to back away and the US is trying to resume business as usual I dare say Iran is trying to ease on the proxy front but they're a wildcard in this at the minute
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i see no evidence nor 'gesture' of that.The_Real_Mr_Anderson wrote:Humanity Blows wrote:So, no military action, seems like de-escalation for now.
Both sides are trying to back away and the US is trying to resume business as usual I dare say Iran is trying to ease on the proxy front but they're a wildcard in this at the minute
in fact my impression is that they have said and intend the exact opposite.
it's the only hope for the levant and the sovereigns.
GTFO.
It is unclear how this restrained policy would shift if Iranian-backed proxies based in Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen, or elsewhere carry out further attacks targeting U.S. personnel or assets, as they have vowed to do.
— Evan Kohlmann (@IntelTweet) January 8, 2020
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back to the speech...
i've nvr seen trump look so shaken. ever. all confidence gone. arrogance faked. barely.
like he was on the cliff edge of a total breakdown.
I doubt we'll see any clever tweets today. nope.
he's in the Lincoln room on meds curled up in the fetal position.
wait till he sees what's coming.
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The Washington Post: "If any Iranians supported Soleimani’s killing, it would’ve been dissidents on Twitter. The opposite happened." https://t.co/3G2xlVR94r
— Evan Kohlmann (@IntelTweet) January 8, 2020
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Associated Press: "US allies see Mideast strategy vacuum that Putin can fill" https://t.co/LAXWJWQQjE
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This is not a decision that could have been taken by Trump himself out of the blue, especially since he was pushing to pull out of Syria and generally from ME. He obviously did not know who Soleimani was and the weak rhetoric after the event is only a poor attempt to minimize the PR damage. Someone must have pushed hard for it and advisers definitely misled Trump on consequences as this was a huge hit on his supporter base which is against war and for return of US troops home.
Something major must have been done since then behind scenes as Iran response was extremely weak and obviously meant to cause no real damage. Russia was suspiciously quiet as well. Quite surprising to see Russia and China less vocal than some NATO members.
I expect important changes at the top of Pentagon, CIA, DoD.
US cannot win a full conventional war against Iran by itself especially if Iran receives AA assistance from Russia and there is nobody in the region to go against them on the ground.
Trump statement today and Khamenei announcements confirm nobody has any intention to further escalate the conflict.
Some further local militia attacks are still to be expected but the response will be limited as well.
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Zambeezi wrote:i see no evidence nor 'gesture' of that.The_Real_Mr_Anderson wrote:Humanity Blows wrote:So, no military action, seems like de-escalation for now.
Both sides are trying to back away and the US is trying to resume business as usual I dare say Iran is trying to ease on the proxy front but they're a wildcard in this at the minute
in fact my impression is that they have said and intend the exact opposite.
it's the only hope for the levant and the sovereigns.
GTFO.
back to the speech...
i've nvr seen trump look so shaken. ever. all confidence gone. arrogance faked. barely.
like he was on the cliff edge of a total breakdown.
I doubt we'll see any clever tweets today. nope.
he's in the Lincoln room on meds curled up in the fetal position.
wait till he sees what's coming.The Washington Post: "If any Iranians supported Soleimani’s killing, it would’ve been dissidents on Twitter. The opposite happened." https://t.co/3G2xlVR94r
— Evan Kohlmann (@IntelTweet) January 8, 2020
I think he got the kidney punch no bully expects and now he doesn't know what to do he probably had a row with staff too other what he wants and expects as opposed to what can be realistically done.
However with what he's done they can now say we held back, I stand by my thoughts earlier that they're waiting for the proxies
The bit that makes me think Iran may be trying to calm the Proxies (it was just a thought no merit to it) is that Iran has just pulled off something no one else has without getting a hard response I respect them more because they took the swing despite what was potentially coming their way, however I've never known them to get too cocky if Proxies were to now launch attacks of similar calibre with no back channels to give warnngs to duck down then ultimately it will come back on Iran.
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The_Real_Mr_Anderson wrote:Zambeezi wrote:i see no evidence nor 'gesture' of that.The_Real_Mr_Anderson wrote:Humanity Blows wrote:So, no military action, seems like de-escalation for now.
Both sides are trying to back away and the US is trying to resume business as usual I dare say Iran is trying to ease on the proxy front but they're a wildcard in this at the minute
in fact my impression is that they have said and intend the exact opposite.
it's the only hope for the levant and the sovereigns.
GTFO.
back to the speech...
i've nvr seen trump look so shaken. ever. all confidence gone. arrogance faked. barely.
like he was on the cliff edge of a total breakdown.
I doubt we'll see any clever tweets today. nope.
he's in the Lincoln room on meds curled up in the fetal position.
wait till he sees what's coming.The Washington Post: "If any Iranians supported Soleimani’s killing, it would’ve been dissidents on Twitter. The opposite happened." https://t.co/3G2xlVR94r
— Evan Kohlmann (@IntelTweet) January 8, 2020
I think he got the kidney punch no bully expects
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and now he doesn't know what to do
he probably had a row with Darth Vaderstaff tooother what he wants and expects as opposed to what can be realistically done.
However with what he's done they can now say we held back, I stand by my thoughts earlier that they're waiting for the proxies
the world waits!
The bit that makes me think Iran may be trying to calm the Proxies (it was just a thought no merit to it) is that Iran has just pulled off something no one else has without getting a hard response I respect them more because they took the swing despite what was potentially coming their way,
me too
however I've never known them to get too cocky if Proxies were to now launch attacks of similar calibre with no back channels to give warnngs to duck down then ultimately it will come back on Iran.
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username wrote:Soleimani assassination was a huge stupid blunder or a bold attempt to start a war.
This is not a decision that could have been taken by Trump himself out of the blue, especially since he was pushing to pull out of Syria and generally from ME. He obviously did not know who Soleimani was and the weak rhetoric after the event is only a poor attempt to minimize the PR damage. Someone must have pushed hard for it and advisers definitely misled Trump on consequences as this was a huge hit on his supporter base which is against war and for return of US troops home.
Something major must have been done since then behind scenes as Iran response was extremely weak and obviously meant to cause no real damage. Russia was suspiciously quiet as well. Quite surprising to see Russia and China less vocal than some NATO members.
I expect important changes at the top of Pentagon, CIA, DoD.
US cannot win a full conventional war against Iran by itself especially if Iran receives AA assistance from Russia and there is nobody in the region to go against them on the ground.
Trump statement today and Khamenei announcements confirm nobody has any intention to further escalate the conflict.
Some further local militia attacks are still to be expected but the response will be limited as well.
Militarily the US could wreck the Iranians but when that conflict turns into a guerilla conflict thats when the Conventional army will always lose...
The idea if any strike at all would be to cripple Irans ability to wage war take out command and control comm's etc then push the hired crows in to do the dirty business destabilizing Iran with a Syria type blueprint then the assets that are there would be used more so to secure nuclear sites & so forth, realistically that would be a very difficult thing to do more so politically given that it would require more than what's in theatre currently and would take years to accomplish a dismantlement and destruction of said sites and materials.
Its not something that highly appealing to anyone with a sense of reality and everyone would have to be on board for it to stand a chance of working.
I couldn't see the Russians providing Air defence themselves but maybe more of what they've done with Syria that being said Iran does have a better air defence system than most in the ME and Russia AFAIK would be willing to sell the Iranians S400 upon request
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Zambeezi wrote:The_Real_Mr_Anderson wrote:Zambeezi wrote:i see no evidence nor 'gesture' of that.The_Real_Mr_Anderson wrote:Humanity Blows wrote:So, no military action, seems like de-escalation for now.
Both sides are trying to back away and the US is trying to resume business as usual I dare say Iran is trying to ease on the proxy front but they're a wildcard in this at the minute
in fact my impression is that they have said and intend the exact opposite.
it's the only hope for the levant and the sovereigns.
GTFO.
back to the speech...
i've nvr seen trump look so shaken. ever. all confidence gone. arrogance faked. barely.
like he was on the cliff edge of a total breakdown.
I doubt we'll see any clever tweets today. nope.
he's in the Lincoln room on meds curled up in the fetal position.
wait till he sees what's coming.The Washington Post: "If any Iranians supported Soleimani’s killing, it would’ve been dissidents on Twitter. The opposite happened." https://t.co/3G2xlVR94r
— Evan Kohlmann (@IntelTweet) January 8, 2020
I think he got the kidney punch no bully expects and now he doesn't know what to do he probably had a row with staff too other what he wants and expects as opposed to what can be realistically done.
However with what he's done they can now say we held back, I stand by my thoughts earlier that they're waiting for the proxies
The bit that makes me think Iran may be trying to calm the Proxies (it was just a thought no merit to it) is that Iran has just pulled off something no one else has without getting a hard response I respect them more because they took the swing despite what was potentially coming their way, however I've never known them to get too cocky if Proxies were to now launch attacks of similar calibre with no back channels to give warnngs to duck down then ultimately it will come back on Iran.
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Moqtada Al-Sadr calls on the Iraqi armed factions to quench and not carry out military attacks
Al-Sadr says the crisis ended after Trump's speech
— (@SkyNewsArabia_B) January 8, 2020
— (@SkyNewsArabia_B) January 8, 2020
It's over- Guest
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It's over wrote:Breaking, Sky News Arabia:
Moqtada Al-Sadr calls on the Iraqi armed factions to quench and not carry out military attacks
Al-Sadr says the crisis ended after Trump's speech— (@SkyNewsArabia_B) January 8, 2020— (@SkyNewsArabia_B) January 8, 2020
there we go
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@ArmsControlWonk
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@planetlabs
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@DaveSchmerler
I am going to post a series of comparisons showing the damage from the Iranian strike on Ain Al Assad Airbase. Here are two impact points.
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https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1214973658181120000
Al-Sadr recommends closing all headquarters of the PMF in Iraq
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsArabia_B/status/1214972319912939520
It's over- Guest
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wow... (all the other vids cut this part out)
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ha. nope. not 'over' by a LONG shot.It's over wrote:Prominent #Iraq cleric/politician Muqtada al-Sadr says crisis is over following speeches by #Iran and US leaders, calls on militias not to start any military action.
https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1214973658181120000
Al-Sadr recommends closing all headquarters of the PMF in Iraq
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsArabia_B/status/1214972319912939520
fuckface weasel Sadr has ALWAYS wanted to shut down/disarm the PMF militia(s). always.
ain't.
gonna.
happen.
(ps- it's their ONLY hope against the empire)
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@BreakingNews
Replying to @BreakingNews
President Trump calls for European allies to now abandon the Iran nuclear deal, and make a new deal with Iran; says he will ask NATO to "become more involved" in the region, and asserts that "we do not need Middle East oil."
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sure.bad sign wrote:Breaking News
@BreakingNews
Replying to @BreakingNews
President Trump calls for Europeanallies[victims and targets] to nowabandon the Iran nuclear deal[forgive his verbal assaults and sanctions],
and make a new deal with Iran; says he will ask NATO to "become moreinvolved[entangled]" in the region, and asserts that "we do not need Middle East[you can all buy US oil.]"
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Zambeezi wrote:sure.bad sign wrote:Breaking News
@BreakingNews
Replying to @BreakingNews
President Trump calls for Europeanallies[victims and targets] to nowabandon the Iran nuclear deal[forgive his verbal assaults and sanctions],
and make a new deal with Iran; says he will ask NATO to "become moreinvolved[entangled]" in the region, and asserts that "we do not need Middle East [you can all buy US oil.]"![]()
He'll sell of US oil and invade Venezuela
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#BREAKING NATO chief agrees with Trump that allies should do more in MidEast pic.twitter.com/QhXgCLPjSC
— AFP news agency (@AFP) January 8, 2020
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Lol Al Sadr knows the fatah/PMF coalition is his main rival for parliament seats in Iraq
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IRAQI MILITARY SAYS TWO KATYUSHA ROCKETS FALL INSIDE BAGHDAD'S GREEN ZONE, NO CASUALTIES -STATEMENT
1:11 pm - 8 Jan 2020
https://twitter.com/russian_market/status/1215018197633687552
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CNN Today Jan 8 (do not miss this interview)
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