Re: #53 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe

[Orange Man Bad]

Not sure if posted here before but it came out public yesterday that the cop - Chauvin and the victim - Floyd knew eachother - they worked together at the same club:

https://www.boston25news.com/news/trending/minneapolis-club-owner-george-floyd-ex-cop-derek-chauvin-both-worked-security-club/TC5SDA3VBRC7XNGO74HRN4OYEQ/

For 17 years if I remember it correctly, yes. Strange circumstances...

So... work related accident????
No what follows - Flyod had a 2-3mil life insurance?
Prank that went too far?
Gang related murder?
Staged event and Floyd is actually not dead?

https://www.zodlikeproductions.net/t190p210-main-news-thread-conflicts-terrorism-crisis-from-around-the-globe#81243

And see the post before the linked one above.

Sorry - I missed that one.
Good to know that it's not only me noticing strange things about this murder.
The reason of the arrest supposedly was:
"Floyd was accused of trying to pass counterfeit money at a corner store." Usually counterfeiting money is not a one man stint.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/minneapolis-george-floyd-protest-may29-1.5589750

[KneelB4Zod!]

The Intercept
@theintercept
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The last phrase in Trump’s tweet included words which were spoken in 1967 by Walter Headley, a racist Miami police chief, who told reporters that his officers would open fire if looting broke out in the city’s predominantly black Liberty City neighborhood.

https://theintercept.com/2020/05/29/twitter-restricts-access-trumps-threat-shoot-minneapolis-protesters/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=theintercept

Zod - keep your balance.. there are plenty of reasons to criticize Trump without inventing.

Since when are "looters" a new race?
Any proof that Walter Headley - that police chief referenced was a racist?
Any reference that he actually said those words (which have nothing to do with racism btw)? I can find any...

Ask at The Intercept, I just shared interesting historic relation highlighted by the website. The Intercept is quite good and informative site with many interesting articles, ie detailed informations about Obama's drone killings. And, of course some flaws. Still I consider the site, and Glenn Greenwald namely, as above average source of informations.

Any reference that he actually said those words (which have nothing to do with racism btw)? I can find any...

https://www.nytimes.com/1967/12/28/archives/tough-miami-policy-angers-negroes-looting-and-shooting.html

[KneelB4Zod!]

Oh, and "Any proof that Walter Headley - that police chief referenced was a racist?"

The same phrase was attributed to "racist, segregationist presidential candidate George Wallace"...

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/trump-quoted-racist-miami-police-chief-in-tweet-flagged-by-twitter-for-glorifying-violence/

https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/columnists/2005/12/12/Intellectual-Capital-Michael-McGough-McCarthy-and-me/stories/200512120115

[KneelB4Zod!]

Guy Elster
@guyelster
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#BREAKING Derek Chauvin is charged with murder of George Floyd in #Minneapolis

[Orange Man Bad]

The Intercept
@theintercept
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The last phrase in Trump’s tweet included words which were spoken in 1967 by Walter Headley, a racist Miami police chief, who told reporters that his officers would open fire if looting broke out in the city’s predominantly black Liberty City neighborhood.

https://theintercept.com/2020/05/29/twitter-restricts-access-trumps-threat-shoot-minneapolis-protesters/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=theintercept

Zod - keep your balance.. there are plenty of reasons to criticize Trump without inventing.

Since when are "looters" a new race?
Any proof that Walter Headley - that police chief referenced was a racist?
Any reference that he actually said those words (which have nothing to do with racism btw)? I can find any...

Ask at The Intercept, I just shared interesting historic relation highlighted by the website. The Intercept is quite good and informative site with many interesting articles, ie detailed informations about Obama's drone killings. And, of course some flaws. Still I consider the site, and Glenn Greenwald namely, as above average source of informations.

Any reference that he actually said those words (which have nothing to do with racism btw)? I can find any...

https://www.nytimes.com/1967/12/28/archives/tough-miami-policy-angers-negroes-looting-and-shooting.html

Remember that article is from 1967. That was only two years after passing the Voting Rights Act - and I do not quite see what was "racist" in those statements.
Labeling someone who lived 50 years ago racist using today's standards doesn't sound very professional to me.
That guy was a Police chief for 20 years at the time.
He states that 90% of Negroes are law abiding citizens that want to eliminate crime but 10% are "young hoodlums who have taken advantage of the civil rights campaign"
And what is the reason to state that Trump "cited" him since obviously that is just a screenshot from an old newspaper never referenced on internet as I could find before today?
Once again - are looters a new race?

I am not asking for the politically motivated articles, I am asking for your own opinion - do you find that remark "when looting starts, shooting starts", racist?

[KneelB4Zod!]

The Intercept
@theintercept
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The last phrase in Trump’s tweet included words which were spoken in 1967 by Walter Headley, a racist Miami police chief, who told reporters that his officers would open fire if looting broke out in the city’s predominantly black Liberty City neighborhood.

https://theintercept.com/2020/05/29/twitter-restricts-access-trumps-threat-shoot-minneapolis-protesters/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=theintercept

Zod - keep your balance.. there are plenty of reasons to criticize Trump without inventing.

Since when are "looters" a new race?
Any proof that Walter Headley - that police chief referenced was a racist?
Any reference that he actually said those words (which have nothing to do with racism btw)? I can find any...

Ask at The Intercept, I just shared interesting historic relation highlighted by the website. The Intercept is quite good and informative site with many interesting articles, ie detailed informations about Obama's drone killings. And, of course some flaws. Still I consider the site, and Glenn Greenwald namely, as above average source of informations.

Any reference that he actually said those words (which have nothing to do with racism btw)? I can find any...

https://www.nytimes.com/1967/12/28/archives/tough-miami-policy-angers-negroes-looting-and-shooting.html

Remember that article is from 1967. That was only two years after passing the Voting Rights Act - and I do not quite see what was "racist" in those statements.
Labeling someone who lived 50 years ago racist using today's standards doesn't sound very professional to me.
That guy was a Police chief for 20 years at the time.
He states that 90% of Negroes are law abiding citizens that want to eliminate crime but 10% are "young hoodlums who have taken advantage of the civil rights campaign"
And what is the reason to state that Trump "cited" him since obviously that is just a screenshot from an old newspaper never referenced on internet as I could find before today?
Once again - are looters a new race?

There are always modern standards used in evaluation of the past. With modern knowledge it helps us to see what was done wrong. Nazi collaborators and war criminals would not be labeled so if not of use of modern standards.
So yes, US was very racist country till late 60s. At some parts of the country at least. And it does not matter if it was seen as normal back in the days. Slavery was seen as normal back in the days as well. It desn't mean we won't call it slavery because it is description by today's standards.

According him 90% of "Negroes" were law abinding citizens because they were scared to much to protest the racism and segregation and oppression. "Young hoodlums" were not.
90% of the people are sheeple ("Negroes"). 10% can see and are willing to stand up and fight ("Young hoodlums"). Can you see the pattern?

In 60s there was no internet so I'm afraid you won't find something more than recently published screenshots. If you're REALLY interested than you can try to visit a library. Usually there are stored slides of such old articles.

And no, looters are not a new race.

[KneelB4Zod!]

Russian Market
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TRUMP SAYS HIS ADMINISTRATION WILL BEGIN PROCESS TO ELIMINATE POLICY EXEMPTIONS THAT GIVE HONG KONG SPECIAL TREATMENT

- wow...

[KneelB4Zod!]

Al-Masdar News
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Fourth Iranian tanker arrives in #Venezuela with heavily armed escort: video https://is.gd/ugTgaJ #Iran

[KneelB4Zod!]

The scheme of the world powers is to cause disunity in order to keep all societies under control. The killing of #GeorgeFloyd was deeply disturbing & upsetting & is the result of the current world order which we all must unite against.
"Pull the trigger kill a Nigga he's a hero" pic.twitter.com/1giRGxPy68

— Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (@Ahmadinejad1956) May 29, 2020

[KneelB4Zod!]

Ahmadinejad is Tupac's fan...

[KneelB4Zod!]

Amid nationwide unrests and epidemy Trump speaks abbout Hong Kong and China...?

In a conference meant to address the police murder of George Floyd & the Black Lives Matter protests, Trump ignored them & instead:

︎spoke at length about the US' support for Hong Kong protests
︎sanctioned China over HK
︎ranted that China's at fault for the US' problems https://t.co/CQd4asjSYz

— Qiao Collective (@qiaocollective) May 29, 2020

[boris]

Guy Elster
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#BREAKING Derek Chauvin is charged with murder of George Floyd in #Minneapolis

but..... will he be found guilty once the trial is over?

[KneelB4Zod!]

Guy Elster
@guyelster
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#BREAKING Derek Chauvin is charged with murder of George Floyd in #Minneapolis

but..... will he be found guilty once the trial is over?

Exactly.

Not rarely the court freed such murderer. Or sentenced him with really ridiculous penalty.

[Orange Man Bad]

So yes, US was very racist country till late 60s. At some parts of the country at least. And it does not matter if it was seen as normal back in the days. Slavery was seen as normal back in the days as well. It desn't mean we won't call it slavery because it is description by today's standards.

How quaint is that when people talk about slavery they only think about US and I rarely hear any mention about Europe where some countries abolished slavery around the same time or even later.
It only becomes a theme when it is convenient to push a certain political agenda.

[Orange Man Bad]

Russia and Syria inked an agreement for a term of 49 years on deploying the Russian air task force at the Hmeymim air base
https://tass.com/defense/1161849
"The agreement is valid for 49 years and is automatically extended for the subsequent 25-year periods"

[boris]

So yes, US was very racist country till late 60s. At some parts of the country at least. And it does not matter if it was seen as normal back in the days. Slavery was seen as normal back in the days as well. It desn't mean we won't call it slavery because it is description by today's standards.

How quaint is that when people talk about slavery they only think about US and I rarely hear any mention about Europe where some countries abolished slavery around the same time or even later.
It only becomes a theme when it is convenient to push a certain political agenda.

which country in Europe had slaves longer than the US?

[Orange Man Bad]

So yes, US was very racist country till late 60s. At some parts of the country at least. And it does not matter if it was seen as normal back in the days. Slavery was seen as normal back in the days as well. It desn't mean we won't call it slavery because it is description by today's standards.

How quaint is that when people talk about slavery they only think about US and I rarely hear any mention about Europe where some countries abolished slavery around the same time or even later.
It only becomes a theme when it is convenient to push a certain political agenda.

which country in Europe had slaves longer than the US?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_abolition_of_slavery_and_serfdom#1850%E2%80%931899

[KneelB4Zod!]

So yes, US was very racist country till late 60s. At some parts of the country at least. And it does not matter if it was seen as normal back in the days. Slavery was seen as normal back in the days as well. It desn't mean we won't call it slavery because it is description by today's standards.

How quaint is that when people talk about slavery they only think about US and I rarely hear any mention about Europe where some countries abolished slavery around the same time or even later.
It only becomes a theme when it is convenient to push a certain political agenda.

But that was not my point. My point was we call slavery as slavery regardless the fact it was norm at the time of practice. It was counterargument to yours: "Labeling someone who lived 50 years ago racist using today's standards doesn't sound very professional to me."

"some countries abolished slavery around the same time or even later" - please example. Not sarcastic or anything. Just curious.

[boris]

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[KneelB4Zod!]

So yes, US was very racist country till late 60s. At some parts of the country at least. And it does not matter if it was seen as normal back in the days. Slavery was seen as normal back in the days as well. It desn't mean we won't call it slavery because it is description by today's standards.

How quaint is that when people talk about slavery they only think about US and I rarely hear any mention about Europe where some countries abolished slavery around the same time or even later.
It only becomes a theme when it is convenient to push a certain political agenda.

which country in Europe had slaves longer than the US?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_abolition_of_slavery_and_serfdom#1850%E2%80%931899

Well, this did not help much imho. That's a list of legal abracadabras...

[boris]

So yes, US was very racist country till late 60s. At some parts of the country at least. And it does not matter if it was seen as normal back in the days. Slavery was seen as normal back in the days as well. It desn't mean we won't call it slavery because it is description by today's standards.

How quaint is that when people talk about slavery they only think about US and I rarely hear any mention about Europe where some countries abolished slavery around the same time or even later.
It only becomes a theme when it is convenient to push a certain political agenda.

which country in Europe had slaves longer than the US?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_abolition_of_slavery_and_serfdom#1850%E2%80%931899

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-slavery/chronology-who-banned-slavery-when-idUSL1561464920070322
US is last on the list.
Wonder why there is so many Africans-Americans in the US but not so many Africans-Europeans in Europe.
Slavery was evil and most of it was from African to the USA in the modern era.
Are you trying to say you cant call out the US for slavery because it happened in other places at other times?
A few days ago you were calling out China for the protests there and saying they were heavy handed and now you are saying??????

[Orange Man Bad]

So yes, US was very racist country till late 60s. At some parts of the country at least. And it does not matter if it was seen as normal back in the days. Slavery was seen as normal back in the days as well. It desn't mean we won't call it slavery because it is description by today's standards.

How quaint is that when people talk about slavery they only think about US and I rarely hear any mention about Europe where some countries abolished slavery around the same time or even later.
It only becomes a theme when it is convenient to push a certain political agenda.

But that was not my point. My point was we call slavery as slavery regardless the fact it was norm at the time of practice. It was counterargument to yours: "Labeling someone who lived 50 years ago racist using today's standards doesn't sound very professional to me."

"some countries abolished slavery around the same time or even later" - please example. Not sarcastic or anything. Just curious.

Check the wiki link I posted above.
Gypsies were slaves in Moldavia and Wallachia until 1857
Portugal and Netherlands colonies for example. Netherland abolition in colonies was gradual over 10 years starting 1863

[KneelB4Zod!]

Detroit LIVE
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1kvKpXyBRzkKE

New York
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1PlJQmMqNXzJE

Jew York is doomed. It's Trump's Gore Nest. People gonna be jailed just for being on the street. Detroit can be interesting. And southern states.

[boris]

[boris]

So yes, US was very racist country till late 60s. At some parts of the country at least. And it does not matter if it was seen as normal back in the days. Slavery was seen as normal back in the days as well. It desn't mean we won't call it slavery because it is description by today's standards.

How quaint is that when people talk about slavery they only think about US and I rarely hear any mention about Europe where some countries abolished slavery around the same time or even later.
It only becomes a theme when it is convenient to push a certain political agenda.

But that was not my point. My point was we call slavery as slavery regardless the fact it was norm at the time of practice. It was counterargument to yours: "Labeling someone who lived 50 years ago racist using today's standards doesn't sound very professional to me."

"some countries abolished slavery around the same time or even later" - please example. Not sarcastic or anything. Just curious.

Check the wiki link I posted above.
Gypsies were slaves in Moldavia and Wallachia until 1857
Portugal and Netherlands colonies for example. Netherland abolition in colonies was gradual over 10 years starting 1863

1814 - Netherlands bans slave trading
1819 - Portugal abolishes slave trade north of the equator
1861 - Netherlands abolishes slavery in Dutch Caribbean colonies
1862 - U.S. President Abraham Lincoln proclaims emancipation of slaves with effect from January 1, 1863; 13th Amendment of U.S. Constitution follows in 1865 banning slavery

[KneelB4Zod!]

So yes, US was very racist country till late 60s. At some parts of the country at least. And it does not matter if it was seen as normal back in the days. Slavery was seen as normal back in the days as well. It desn't mean we won't call it slavery because it is description by today's standards.

How quaint is that when people talk about slavery they only think about US and I rarely hear any mention about Europe where some countries abolished slavery around the same time or even later.
It only becomes a theme when it is convenient to push a certain political agenda.

But that was not my point. My point was we call slavery as slavery regardless the fact it was norm at the time of practice. It was counterargument to yours: "Labeling someone who lived 50 years ago racist using today's standards doesn't sound very professional to me."

"some countries abolished slavery around the same time or even later" - please example. Not sarcastic or anything. Just curious.

Check the wiki link I posted above.
Gypsies were slaves in Moldavia and Wallachia until 1857
Portugal and Netherlands colonies for example. Netherland abolition in colonies was gradual over 10 years starting 1863

And that's why love to be a Slav. We had no slaves, no colonies. We, Slavs, no pussies. u know?

But really, it's a mix of slavery, segregation and now common hiden racism what I'm talking about.

[boris]

Lots more live feeds incoming, better get the popcorn out
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1mrGmQPjrXvGy

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1rmxPAyVwDjKN

[boris]

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

[Mr Badger]

Lots more live feeds incoming, better get the popcorn out
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1mrGmQPjrXvGy

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1rmxPAyVwDjKN

Thanks for finding these. There were plenty of livestreams up earlier and now a search isn't coming up with anything! Deliberately blocked perhaps?

[boris]

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1mrGmQPjrXvGy
good feed right now