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Post by Böhse Tante Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:01 pm

@刘汉

What I found:

https://themadjewess.wordpress.com/2021/03/02/russia-did-not-officially-warn-israel-that-they-ru-would-attack-back-in-syria/
"Translate it yourself if you do not believe me. Israel helped Russia train in Syria:"
???

With this Link inside:

https://www.interfax.ru/world/751405

Dunno what's the difference ...

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Post by 刘汉 Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:15 am

Böhse Tante wrote:@刘汉

What I found:

https://themadjewess.wordpress.com/2021/03/02/russia-did-not-officially-warn-israel-that-they-ru-would-attack-back-in-syria/
"Translate it yourself if you do not believe me. Israel helped Russia train in Syria:"
???

With this Link inside:

https://www.interfax.ru/world/751405

Dunno what's the difference ...

Rolling Eyes

This could very well be. To recapitulate: Guest12 (if I am not mistaken) posted without any reference or source, that Russia had given order to their aircraft in Syria to threaten the Zionist scum. I think, we all agree, that this was extremely interesting and I had a look into that matter. The result was, that all tweets and all articles in the web referred back to exactly one article. I have posted the link to this article and gave all the sentences about Russia in extenso. But I could not find any proof of this. It could very well be, that the author of this article misunderstood or misinterpreted his Russian source.
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Post by 刘汉 Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:39 am

刘汉 wrote:
Guest 12 wrote:Zionists again attacked Syria, bombing positions near Damascus.  Reports are coming in that Russia warned them to stop, but they ignored and continued with bombardment.
Further reports indicate Russian fighters were scrambled and chased off the Israeli planes.  I don’t know if it is true, but I hope it is.



I will look for more. If it is true, that there were air-fights between Russians and Zionists, it would be great.

About the actual attack, there were many tweets, but about the Russian involvement, there was only this one ("article number 1"):

刘汉 wrote:https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-israel-launching-missiles-toward-damascus-syria

UPDATE 3:55 PM EST --

Russia is launching fighter jets from its bases inside Syria and those jets are moving toward Israel and Lebanon.   Intel sources say the Russians "Warned Israel not to start attacking" and now that Israel has ignored the warning, Russian fighter jets are heading toward the air space from which Israeli jets are firing missiles.

It is not yet known if the Russian jets will engage the Israeli jets, but this could be "it."



UPDATE 4:04 PM EST --

Confirmation has been received that Russian planes took off from Hmeymin air base against Israel

UPDATE 4:22 PM EST --

Israeli jets over Lebanon high-tailed it back into Israel when Russian fighter jets went airborne.

Later I found this article ("article number 2"). This was the closest to article number 1 and seemingly independent from it:

刘汉 wrote:https://mynews.one/russia-officially-warns-israel-no-more-attacks-on-syria-or-russia-will-attack-back/

"Russia has OFFICIALLY warned Israel that it is ready to attack IDF fighter jets if attacks by Israel continue against Syria.

The special envoy of the President of Russia Alexander Lavrentyev made a report in which he emphasized the unwillingness of the Israeli side to fulfill the agreements reached between Israel and Russia to de-escalate the situation in Syria

Lavrentyev noted that Moscow’s patience has completely dried up, and if Israel does not give up aggressive actions against the Arab Republic in the near future, Russia will be ready to attack Israeli aircraft, obviously, not only over Syria, but also in the airspace over neighboring countries, or in international airspace.

“Sooner or later, the cup of patience, including the Syrian government, may be overflowing, and a retaliatory strike will follow, which will accordingly lead to a new round of tension. These attacks must be stopped, they are counterproductive. We hope that the Israeli side will hear our concerns, including concerns about the possible escalation of violence in Syria, ” Lavrentiev said.

Given the fact that we are talking about an official statement, it is obvious that Russia is extremely unhappy with Israel’s actions, especially after strikes were struck in areas where Russian military and civilian Syrian citizens were stationed.

According to analysts, as a first step, Russia may begin to raise its combat aircraft into the sky to counter Israel, and if such a measure does not help, the next step will be to use Russian air defense systems to intercept Israeli missiles, and then, a more radical step, opening fire on Israeli aircraft posing a threat to the Russian military on the territory of the Arab republic.

OF NOTE: Russia did, in fact, launch fighter jets from bases in Syria when Israel attacked Syria, again, on Sunday.

Source: halturnerradioshow.com"

Interestingly this source is the only article in the web to talk about this.


Your article is re-interpreting "article number 2" and maybe correctly.
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Post by boris Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:35 am

Biden administration unveils raft of sanctions on Russia over Navalny poisoning and imprisonment
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/02/politics/biden-russia-sanctions-alexey-navalny/index.html

"The Biden administration imposed a raft of sanctions on Russian officials and entities on Tuesday in response to the poisoning and imprisonment of opposition leader Alexey Navalny.
The actions -- taken in coordination with the European Union, which also unveiled sanctions -- represent the first significant move against Moscow since Joe Biden became President.
The Treasury Department sanctioned seven senior Russian government officials: two of President Vladimir Putin's deputy chiefs of staff, two Russian defense ministers, the Russian prosecutor general, the director of the Federal Penitentiary Service and the head of Russia's security services, the FSB. In addition, the State Department sanctioned the FSB as an entity, a designation that department spokesperson Ned Price said "speaks to where we believe culpability lies."

A senior administration official on Tuesday revealed that the intelligence community had assessed with high confidence that the FSB had poisoned Navalny in August 2020 with the nerve agent Novichok. A CNN and Bellingcat investigation identified FSB specialists who trailed Navalny prior to his poisoning.


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Post by 刘汉 Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:30 am

I am really confused now. When I was looking for information about the Russian involvement in this last Zionist attack on Damascus, I found, that only one webpage was talking about this.

Now, just for fun I had a look into our member-list and only very few have linked their own webpage. One of them is the member ShockJock. I opened the link and looked at the adresse:
It is exactly the same!

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/

ShockJock has reacted to my posting of this article. But this is confusing. Can anyone bring light into this darkness?
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Post by 刘汉 Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:01 am

It is getting more interesting: article 1 and 2, that I thought were independent, are from the same webpage. So actually we rely on one source only for the interpretation of Alexander Lavrentyev's words. Only the article posted by Böhse Tante gives an independent interpretation. The words themselves were published by Interfax.

The open question now is:
When ShockJock says:

ShockJock wrote: So Russia DID exactly what they said they were going to do!   On Feb 21, Russia said they would raise their fighter jets, and that was precisely what they did yesterday when Israel attacked.

One should conclude that Russia will continue to do exactly what they said and, in the future, that does not bode well for Israel.

I think the first time the Russians (or Syrians) shoot down an IAF plane, that will resolve the matter.  I believe the Israelis can't handle an actual fight.


we have only two articles from the webpage, he gives as his own, as a source or reference.

So, what is the actual source, that Russia launched her fighters?

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Post by ShockJock Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:23 am

刘汉 wrote:I am really confused now. When I was looking for information about the Russian involvement in this last Zionist attack on Damascus, I found, that only one webpage was talking about this.

Now, just for fun I had a look into our member-list and only very few have linked their own webpage. One of them is the member ShockJock. I opened the link and looked at the adresse:
It is exactly the same!

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/

ShockJock has reacted to my posting of this article. But this is confusing. Can anyone bring light into this darkness?

These may help point you in the right direction to verify the statements in my story:



and this:



There are many more, many from inside Syria as the action was taking place, who verify the launch of Russian fighter jets.  

Hope this is helpful.
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Post by Talos Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:27 am

Security sources tell Press TV: Two US contractors killed, six injured in rocket attack on Iraqi Al Assad airbase
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Post by Talos Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:28 am

U.S. officials have met Yemen's Houthis as Washington seeks end to war: sources

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2AV1VH?__twitter_impression=true

Houthis need to be careful and not trust US regime
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Post by Talos Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:55 am

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Israel's Minister of Environmental Protection: A Libyan-owned pirate ship is responsible for the environmental pollution in the Mediterranean - it left Iran with its transmitter off.

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#BREAKING: A Libyan ship that sailed fron Iran is responsible for the oil pollution that polluted the shores of Israel: "This is environmental terrorism," says
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Lol an obvious false flag by Israel
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Post by Zambeezi Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:55 am

刘汉 wrote:It is getting more interesting: article 1 and 2, that I thought were independent, are from  the same webpage. So actually we rely on one source only for the interpretation of Alexander Lavrentyev's words. Only the article posted by Böhse Tante gives an independent interpretation. The words themselves were published by Interfax.
The open question now is:
When ShockJock says:
ShockJock wrote: So Russia DID exactly what they said they were going to do!   On Feb 21, Russia said they would raise their fighter jets, and that was precisely what they did yesterday when Israel attacked.
One should conclude that Russia will continue to do exactly what they said and, in the future, that does not bode well for Israel.
I think the first time the Russians (or Syrians) shoot down an IAF plane, that will resolve the matter.  I believe the Israelis can't handle an actual fight.
we have only two articles from the webpage, he gives as his own, as a source or reference.
So, what is the actual source, that Russia launched her fighters?
good work 刘汉
here's my answer: the 'HalTurnerShow' is NOTORIOUS (for years) publishing 'click bait' type inflammatory/exaggerations and flat out made up shit.
read it, seen it for many years.
as well...
Interfax is based out of the Ukraine (I'll leave that to your imagination Smile )
I enjoy your real time posts.
Ultimately you end up at a 'small-world club' of pro-Zionist/Coalition twitter accounts that dip out of each other's cups.
They enjoy 'breaking access' to satellite imagery, on-the-spot videos, and a host of 'insider' intel within minutes of incident occurrence.
accounts like: Guy Elster, ELINT, Woofers, Aleph, Aurora Intel, Intel Crab, Babak Taghvaee, Evergreen Intel, Sentinel.... and on & on.
I think you know the crowd. I don't like their 'opinions'.
Some accounts are obvious 'fronts' using 'fictitious persona' (masking COINTEL ops designed to manipulate/spin breaking news events etc.)
I 'use' their intel and reject their spin.
I'm sure you're aware fwiw. Appreciate ALL you contribute!
btw... I've had limited time these recent days with 'family matters' and can only contribute as I find the time for now.
hope to get back to my old 'schedule' soon. Really appreciate EVERYONE here in Zodland and check-in every day.
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**note: Google sez Interfax is 'headquartered' in Moscow... (but so is 'Moscow Times' hahhaa lol)
much of their 'rolling headline' snips originate in Kiev. (guess who Laughing )


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Post by Talos Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:58 am

Does anyone else have a bad feeling about the popes visit to Iraq? I worry Mossad may kill him and it will be blamed on PMF and Iran to turn Christian world against them.
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Post by Talos Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:22 am

Israeli minister accuses Iran of link to oil spill off its shores

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN2AV2C7?__twitter_impression=true

Some say could cost Israel billions is it Iran's response to Israel killing of nuke scientist?
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:36 am


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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:53 am

Zambeezi wrote:
刘汉 wrote:It is getting more interesting: article 1 and 2, that I thought were independent, are from  the same webpage. So actually we rely on one source only for the interpretation of Alexander Lavrentyev's words. Only the article posted by Böhse Tante gives an independent interpretation. The words themselves were published by Interfax.
The open question now is:
When ShockJock says:
ShockJock wrote: So Russia DID exactly what they said they were going to do!   On Feb 21, Russia said they would raise their fighter jets, and that was precisely what they did yesterday when Israel attacked.
One should conclude that Russia will continue to do exactly what they said and, in the future, that does not bode well for Israel.
I think the first time the Russians (or Syrians) shoot down an IAF plane, that will resolve the matter.  I believe the Israelis can't handle an actual fight.
we have only two articles from the webpage, he gives as his own, as a source or reference.
So, what is the actual source, that Russia launched her fighters?
good work 刘汉
here's my answer: the 'HalTurnerShow' is NOTORIOUS (for years) publishing 'click bait' type inflammatory/exaggerations and flat out made up shit.
read it, seen it for many years.
as well...
Interfax is based out of the Ukraine (I'll leave that to your imagination Smile )
I enjoy your real time posts.
Ultimately you end up at a 'small-world club' of pro-Zionist/Coalition twitter accounts that dip out of each other's cups.
They enjoy 'breaking access' to satellite imagery, on-the-spot videos, and a host of 'insider' intel within minutes of incident occurrence.
accounts like: Guy Elster, ELINT, Woofers, Aleph, Aurora Intel, Intel Crab, Babak Taghvaee, Evergreen Intel, Sentinel.... and on & on.
I think you know the crowd. I don't like their 'opinions'.
Some accounts are obvious 'fronts' using 'fictitious persona' (masking COINTEL ops designed to manipulate/spin breaking news events etc.)
I 'use' their intel and reject their spin.
I'm sure you're aware fwiw. Appreciate ALL you contribute!
btw... I've had limited time these recent days with 'family matters' and can only contribute as I find the time for now.
hope to get back to my old 'schedule' soon. Really appreciate EVERYONE here in Zodland and check-in every day.
Cheers 2 ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rendeer

**note: Google sez Interfax is 'headquartered' in Moscow... (but so is 'Moscow Times' hahhaa lol)
much of their 'rolling headline' snips originate in Kiev. (guess who Laughing  )

From Russian sources I found this list of articles, on the Yandex, which mentions the statement.

https://yandex.com/news/instory/Rossiya_oficialno_dopustila_vozmozhnost_unichtozheniya_samoletov_Izrailya_atakuyushhikh_Siriyu--dbb87cda6c9fa03631e2edf6a1ea3f42?lr=107315&content=alldocs&stid=1JcB4FqIo6teUIQzMFqP&persistent_id=4849&from=story

What I can understand from the most of them says "The Russian Federation officially admitted the possibility of the destruction of Israeli Air Force planes attacking Syria"

https://shraibikus.com/1113292-568521113292.html?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop


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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:20 pm

Russian systems effectively repel Israeli strike in Syria - source

Подробнее: https://ror3blp4k7yovsm4urqhjnfcay--eadaily-com.translate.goog/ru/news/2021/03/02/rossiyskie-sistemy-effektivno-otrazili-izrailskiy-udar-v-sirii-istochnik

It mentions Russian air defense systems, as Buk-M2


Other sources mention Syrian air defense systems.

Aditionally I found this article:

Four Su-35 fighters were returned to Russia from Syria for unknown reasons

"According to the Syrian sources of the publication, it was assumed that the fighters were raised in connection with the expected strikes. However, the assumptions did not materialize after the planes headed east."

https://news-r.ru/news/politics/502518/

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by khnum Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:46 pm

I have been watching with interest the Israel vs Russia possibility,there is both a media front and a diplomatic front to these relations.

There are 900,000 Russian Jews in Israel and 30 Russian Jewish oligarchs including Abromovich,Netanyahu has visited Russia 10 times since 2015,so despite the shirtfronting in the media,I think it doubtful Russia will confront Israel in any way which could lead to a war.

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Post by KneelB4Zod! Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:26 pm

New article (op-ed) regarding Russia/Israel:

Continued Israeli airstrikes on Syria are testing Moscow’s patience, Jerusalem would do well not to poke the Russian bear

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/517122-israel-airstrikes-russia-syria/

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Post by Guest 12 Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:44 pm

There are limits to Russian patience even with the case of Israel. Russia is deployed in Syria, it has an investment there and is not going anywhere. Russia hopes to keep a lid on the hostilities yes, but not at the expense of being completely made an irrelevancy.

While unfortunately it is true that there is too much Zionist influence around Putin: that doesn’t mean that other powers in Russian establishment are so weighted down. There are many people in said establishment who have had more than enough duplicity from Israel, justifiably so.

Now let’s look at these so-called ‘Israeli Russian’. This is is nonsense, they are Israelis full stop. Never forget it is the damned global Zionists in western powers who are architects of all these anti Russian sanctions, laws, policies ... We know this for a fact, and we don’t forget. Their cunning and treachery is well documented.

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Post by Böhse Tante Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:39 pm

@ZOD

Thanks for the Russian sources about RU/Israel. Without knowledge of the language it's a hardship to search for it.

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Post by ShockJock Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:34 pm

Zambeezi wrote:
刘汉 wrote:It is getting more interesting: article 1 and 2, that I thought were independent, are from  the same webpage. So actually we rely on one source only for the interpretation of Alexander Lavrentyev's words. Only the article posted by Böhse Tante gives an independent interpretation. The words themselves were published by Interfax.
The open question now is:
When ShockJock says:
ShockJock wrote: So Russia DID exactly what they said they were going to do!   On Feb 21, Russia said they would raise their fighter jets, and that was precisely what they did yesterday when Israel attacked.
One should conclude that Russia will continue to do exactly what they said and, in the future, that does not bode well for Israel.
I think the first time the Russians (or Syrians) shoot down an IAF plane, that will resolve the matter.  I believe the Israelis can't handle an actual fight.
we have only two articles from the webpage, he gives as his own, as a source or reference.
So, what is the actual source, that Russia launched her fighters?
good work 刘汉
here's my answer: the 'HalTurnerShow' is NOTORIOUS (for years) publishing 'click bait' type inflammatory/exaggerations and flat out made up shit.
read it, seen it for many years.
as well...
Interfax is based out of the Ukraine (I'll leave that to your imagination Smile )
I enjoy your real time posts.
Ultimately you end up at a 'small-world club' of pro-Zionist/Coalition twitter accounts that dip out of each other's cups.
They enjoy 'breaking access' to satellite imagery, on-the-spot videos, and a host of 'insider' intel within minutes of incident occurrence.
accounts like: Guy Elster, ELINT, Woofers, Aleph, Aurora Intel, Intel Crab, Babak Taghvaee, Evergreen Intel, Sentinel.... and on & on.
I think you know the crowd. I don't like their 'opinions'.
Some accounts are obvious 'fronts' using 'fictitious persona' (masking COINTEL ops designed to manipulate/spin breaking news events etc.)
I 'use' their intel and reject their spin.
I'm sure you're aware fwiw. Appreciate ALL you contribute!
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**note: Google sez Interfax is 'headquartered' in Moscow... (but so is 'Moscow Times' hahhaa lol)
much of their 'rolling headline' snips originate in Kiev. (guess who Laughing  )

Well, since I __am__ Hal Turner, and since I own and personally operate HalTurnerRadioShow.com, and I personally broadcast five nights a week on FCC licensed radio stations WBCQ, WRMI and KYAH, AND;

Since I am credentialed Journalist whose credentials from the US Press Agency, The New Jersey Press Association thru the New Jersey State Police, and from the Society of Professional Journalists, all require that I be honest in what I do,   I would certainly appreciate you PROVING what you've just claimed.

Further, since it was revealed at a federal trial in the United States District court in Brooklyn, New York in December, 2010, that, for fifteen years, I worked with the FBI and that in my final five years, from 2003-2008, with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force handling "national security, terrorism and foreign counter-intelligence" and further that I was granted full operational status by the Office of Intelligence at FBI Headquarters in Washington, DC to engage in "extra-territorial" operations, and was tasked by FBI HQ to travel overseas to handle my responsibilities, and thereby actually do have sources in the intelligence community with whom I personally worked, and who feed me information that the mass media never gets near, I would appreciate hearing from you, exactly what was "click bait" or "made up shit."

I know of no "click bait" or "outright made up" anything.  

I respectfully challenge you to prove what you just asserted.
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Post by Zambeezi Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:48 am

ShockJock wrote:
Zambeezi wrote:
刘汉 wrote:It is getting more interesting: article 1 and 2, that I thought were independent, are from  the same webpage. So actually we rely on one source only for the interpretation of Alexander Lavrentyev's words. Only the article posted by Böhse Tante gives an independent interpretation. The words themselves were published by Interfax.
The open question now is:
When ShockJock says:
ShockJock wrote: So Russia DID exactly what they said they were going to do!   On Feb 21, Russia said they would raise their fighter jets, and that was precisely what they did yesterday when Israel attacked.
One should conclude that Russia will continue to do exactly what they said and, in the future, that does not bode well for Israel.
I think the first time the Russians (or Syrians) shoot down an IAF plane, that will resolve the matter.  I believe the Israelis can't handle an actual fight.
we have only two articles from the webpage, he gives as his own, as a source or reference.
So, what is the actual source, that Russia launched her fighters?
good work 刘汉
here's my answer: the 'HalTurnerShow' is NOTORIOUS (for years) publishing 'click bait' type inflammatory/exaggerations and flat out made up shit.
read it, seen it for many years.
as well...
Interfax is based out of the Ukraine (I'll leave that to your imagination Smile )
I enjoy your real time posts.
Ultimately you end up at a 'small-world club' of pro-Zionist/Coalition twitter accounts that dip out of each other's cups.
They enjoy 'breaking access' to satellite imagery, on-the-spot videos, and a host of 'insider' intel within minutes of incident occurrence.
accounts like: Guy Elster, ELINT, Woofers, Aleph, Aurora Intel, Intel Crab, Babak Taghvaee, Evergreen Intel, Sentinel.... and on & on.
I think you know the crowd. I don't like their 'opinions'.
Some accounts are obvious 'fronts' using 'fictitious persona' (masking COINTEL ops designed to manipulate/spin breaking news events etc.)
I 'use' their intel and reject their spin.
I'm sure you're aware fwiw. Appreciate ALL you contribute!
btw... I've had limited time these recent days with 'family matters' and can only contribute as I find the time for now.
hope to get back to my old 'schedule' soon. Really appreciate EVERYONE here in Zodland and check-in every day.
Cheers 2 ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rendeer

**note: Google sez Interfax is 'headquartered' in Moscow... (but so is 'Moscow Times' hahhaa lol)
much of their 'rolling headline' snips originate in Kiev. (guess who Laughing  )

Well, since I __am__ Hal Turner, and since I own and personally operate HalTurnerRadioShow.com, and I personally broadcast five nights a week on FCC licensed radio stations WBCQ, WRMI and KYAH, AND;

Since I am credentialed Journalist whose credentials from the US Press Agency, The New Jersey Press Association thru the New Jersey State Police, and from the Society of Professional Journalists, all require that I be honest in what I do,   I would certainly appreciate you PROVING what you've just claimed.

Further, since it was revealed at a federal trial in the United States District court in Brooklyn, New York in December, 2010, that, for fifteen years, I worked with the FBI and that in my final five years, from 2003-2008, with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force handling "national security, terrorism and foreign counter-intelligence" and further that I was granted full operational status by the Office of Intelligence at FBI Headquarters in Washington, DC to engage in "extra-territorial" operations, and was tasked by FBI HQ to travel overseas to handle my responsibilities, and thereby actually do have sources in the intelligence community with whom I personally worked, and who feed me information that the mass media never gets near, I would appreciate hearing from you, exactly what was "click bait" or "made up shit."

I know of no "click bait" or "outright made up" anything.  

I respectfully challenge you to prove what you just asserted.
as you wish.

a quick search gave me 'samples' of what created my impressions across the years.
I'm not the only one.
So here ya go:

►Hal Turner Radio Show Claims Chinese Invasion Force Shot Down USAF Fighter Plane on US Soil Posted on December 13, 2020
Independent US radio show reports that Chinese troops may possibly have used an energy weapon
to shoot down a USAF F-16 fighting falcon that crashed on or about December 8, 2020.

►Hal Turner Radio Show has just Reported, "50,000 Chinese Soldiers were Bombed and Killed in Maine which was listed as an Earthquake."
https://darkoutpost.com/news/50000-chinese-soldiers-were-bombed-and-killed-in-maine-which-was-listed-as-an-earthquake/

►Fact Check: Tens-Of-Thousands Of Chinese Soldiers Are NOT Quietly Massing On The Canadian Border Readying For Invasion Of The United States
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/10/fact-check-10-of-thousands-of-chinese-soldiers-are-not-massing-on-canadian-border.html


►Quit falling for fake news — Aurora Intel Network
https://auroraintel.net/opinions/quit-falling-for-fake-news

from AuroraIntel:
Hal Turner has had plenty of cases where he’s been responsible for spreading fake news, doom porn, propaganda(?),
and just down right wrong things.

It’s a lot to put in here, so I’ve created an image album:

#70 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe - Page 3 Hal110  #70 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe - Page 3 Hal210
First pic is from just recently, where Hal claims that the incident in New Jersey at a chemical plant might’ve been an Iranian terror attack “intended to kill thousands”. First, this was a physical problem with the chemical plant, nothing related to cyber warfare. Second, why the incredibly sensationalist wording? It’s obvious what his goal was here. I’ve included another picture from the post which has in RED LETTERS that authorities were “quietly saying the fire was no accident and are looking at whether or not Iran or its proxies intended to cause a massive release of chlorine gas to murder tens-of-thousands in southern New Jersey and New York City” which is completely false, and intended to cause panic within the uninformed.

#70 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe - Page 3 Hal310 #70 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe - Page 3 Hal410
2nd picture shows tanks on the move in CALIFORNIA.. for TRAINING.. at a MILITARY BASE.. but in Hal’s post, he claims they’re heading for ports, so they can be transported for you guessed it.. Iran. There’s NO evidence these were moving for ports to be transported out to the Middle East for Iran, none at all. It’s 100% for training purposes, which frequently take place actually in that exact area. Hal then claims that because of the paint, that means for sure they’re being sent to the Middle East. Which, these tanks are actually training in a desert environment, so I’m sure the desert style camo helps a lot in that specific training.

#70 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe - Page 3 Hal510 #70 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe - Page 3 Hal710
3rd picture shows a post by him recently as well with some very obvious sensationalist wording, including lots of intense words, and him stressing the “SONIC BOOMS EVERYWHERE!”. It’s all intended to make the reader think something major is happening, when really it isn’t THAT big of a deal. In the picture following that you can see Hal in red letters has that Israeli jets were being fired upon, which just simply isn’t true, they were trying to down projectiles being fired by Israel, they weren’t trying to down Israeli jets.

#70 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe - Page 3 Hal610
4th pic is just from today, which talks about the US Embassy in Baghdad. The US Embassy had a singular rocket land NEAR IT, a SINGULAR ROCKET. However, in Hal’s post he claims that the embassy was under HEAVY MORTAR FIRE. Which, isn’t true. Also, you can see again how Hal uses the red letters and the intense wording with the intent to deceive the reader.

What I’m saying is that you should take all of the things I mentioned into account, and realize what you’re reading from Hal is either most likely not true, is meant to deceive you, and make you think something major is going to break out, or is simply just a fake news post, with the intent once again, to deceive the reader. This is what Hal does, this is what Hal has ALWAYS done, and you need to keep that in mind whenever you’re reading a post by him.

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Post by Zambeezi Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:12 am

shockjock:
I did not 'call you out'. (You called ME out.)
Until your post I had no idea that you/'shockjock' were even affiliated with 'HalTurnerShow' etc.
I was simply giving my honest opinion/impression of Hal Turner as an editorial news source.
You're obviously driven and dedicated. I can appreciate that.
Let there be peace in Zodland. You are NOT my enemy.
Cheers.

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