Re: #81 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe

[刘汉]

JPOST: Iran has begun deploying advanced anti-aircraft missile batteries to the region, including in Syria where Israeli jets routinely carry out airstrikes, in an attempt to challenge Israel Air Force jets.https://t.co/gj9vNgsDci

— Apex (@Apex_WW) October 25, 2021

[刘汉]

Report: Iranian forces fired at Israeli warplanes during a recent attack by the Israeli @IAFsite in Syria, @IDF confirmed.

— Eretz Israel (@EretzIsrael) October 25, 2021

all from Zionist sources.

[der_mick]

So now Kiev threatens Moscow with missiles.
https://www.rt.com/russia/538367-zelensky-warns-kremlin-russia/
What is great Moscow chess player going to do now.  Zionist stooge in Kiev with backing of Zionist state who Great chess player just gave free hand to in Syria.  

I tell you once again, Igor Strelkov was the one who was correct, but then again he was not a chess playing Sun Tzu reader.  

Putin is in bed with the Zionists

https://www.weforum.org/press/2021/10/russia-joins-centre-for-the-fourth-industrial-revolution-network/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/bennett-extends-russia-trip-over-shabbat-after-warm-putin-talks-run-long/

Very nice, and what do you suggest? Since no "elite", no authority, no state leader and especially no economic leader can be trusted, the only thing left is the line from the "Internationale" in German:
To deliver us from misery, we can only do it ourselves.

So let's make revolution, I'm with it immediately, I'm just waiting for the masses to join in ...

I fear that most individuals think like that...let the masses start and I'll join in. I could imagine that in 1944-45 there were quite some people in Germany, who would have "joined in" if only there would have been any masses.

But I think there needs to be a spark that ignites the tinder and not many people are able to be that spark.

Next question: What exactly is it that we think of when we say "Let's make revolution"?
Some people think marching up to parliament with their self-made signs every Monday screaming and whistling will change something eventually. Others think revolution is only possible with a state actor in the back, providing funds and guidance/organisation. Yet again others would claim that without armament you don't have a realistic chance of changing the status quo.

So how would the "perfect revolution" look like? I'm not even sure if such matters can be discussed freely in a place like this.

In 1918-19 Germany was ready for revolution, but was betrayed by the SPD. In 1944-45 or 1945-50, I don't think, that the Germans were in the mood to attack the government or the (Western) occupants. In 1944 the clique around Stauffenberg learnt, that there was no support from the Allies for a coup. The people saw the defeat coming, but they were between hammer and anvil. After the defeat all hope was lost. There was no chance against the occupants.

I see and I agree with that. Although I have read some diaries (long time ago) of people who got war tired and maybe would have given support to some kind of revolution.

As far as I know, Stauffenberg and friends did not want to overthrow the Nazi regime because they wanted to change politics or ideology. They just realized that the "Führer" was becoming mentally ill and they didn't trust his abilities to win the war. It is said, that they just wanted to coup themselves to the top.

But that wasn't my point.

My point is: I keep seeing people who seem to genuinely crave change/revolution but if you ask them what it should look like and what chances of successful outcome they predict, you don't get very satisfying answers. When I look at Sudan and those people, my heart grows bold but then again I remember where I am and I realize that people in "the West" will only ever start to act when it's to late.

There's a nice saying by Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker:
„Das deutsche Volk ist absolut Obrigkeitshörig, des Denkens entwöhnt, typischer Befehlsempfänger, ein Held vor dem Feind, aber ein totaler Mangel an Zivilcourage. Der typische Deutsche verteidigt sich erst dann, wenn er nichts mehr hat, das sich zu verteidigen lohnt. Wenn er aber aus seinem Schlaf erwacht ist, dann schlägt er im blinden Zorn alles kurz und klein. Auch jenes, was ihm vielleicht noch helfen könnte!"

Translated with deepl:
"The German people are absolutely obedient to the authorities, weaned on thinking, typical recipients of orders, a hero in front of the enemy, but a total lack of civil courage. The typical German defends himself only when he has nothing left worth defending. But when he wakes up from his sleep, he beats up everything in a blind rage. Also that, which could perhaps still help him!"

[刘汉]

"Israel's defense establishment identified growing Iranian efforts to improve air defenses where IAF has been carrying out attacks...Iran trying to establish array of SAMs in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq etc. to disrupt Israeli strikes, down IAF aircraft" https://t.co/svz4XsR9x4

— Israel LatestLive News (@JaffaStreet24) October 25, 2021

[Abacus]

Eli Clifton
@EliClifton (October 23, 2021)

“Jared Kushner, former White House adviser and son-in-law of former US president Donald Trump,
is reportedly in talks to receive upwards of $2bn from Saudi Arabia for his private equity firm,
according to the journalism studio Project Brazen.”

twitter.com/EliClifton/status/1452023605781401600

[刘汉]

[...]

My point is: I keep seeing people who seem to genuinely crave change/revolution but if you ask them what it should look like and what chances of successful outcome they predict,   you don't get very satisfying answers. When I look at Sudan and those people, my heart grows bold but then again I remember where I am and I realize that people in "the West" will only ever start to act when it's to late.

There's a nice saying by Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker:
„Das deutsche Volk ist absolut Obrigkeitshörig, des Denkens entwöhnt, typischer Befehlsempfänger, ein Held vor dem Feind, aber ein totaler Mangel an Zivilcourage. Der typische Deutsche verteidigt sich erst dann, wenn er nichts mehr hat, das sich zu verteidigen lohnt. Wenn er aber aus seinem Schlaf erwacht ist, dann schlägt er im blinden Zorn alles kurz und klein. Auch jenes, was ihm vielleicht noch helfen könnte!"

Translated with deepl:
"The German people are absolutely obedient to the authorities, weaned on thinking, typical recipients of orders, a hero in front of the enemy, but a total lack of civil courage. The typical German defends himself only when he has nothing left worth defending. But when he wakes up from his sleep, he beats up everything in a blind rage. Also that, which could perhaps still help him!"

Do you mean Carl Friedrich or Richard von Weizsäcker?

Napoleon and Lenin said similar things about the Germans. I think, this is something, that sets us apart from the French, Italians, etc. the Roman nations. We are not easily enflamed. It takes a long time to upset the Germans. And then, when they are upset, all the other nations around have made some deals to live with it and have completely forgotten, what it was all about. I don't think, it has to do with obedience, rather with the German way of thinking. It seems to be more bound on principles. Maybe we can tolerate a lot, what the French etc. cannot, but when the principles are touched, this needs to be fixed, but it needs a long time of thinking. The French don't care about these principles, maybe they don't even understand, what the Germans are thinking about. There are many examples of this in mediaeval history.

[Abacus]

Jesse Crall
@jessecrall (October 25, 2021)

The Brabant Killers...Gladio was the name for a series of networks involving false flag attacks,
weapons caches, torture & assassinations.
...all under the auspices of NATO.

twitter.com/jessecrall/status/1452670034703224837

[Guest 12]

I have to say, I am saddened by the war like talk between Germany and Ru.F.  Too much misery has been shared between the peoples.  I don’t enjoy any of this tensions.  

On a lighter note, I buy this German sauerkraut “Khune”, I have to say with the black bread and my sausages and strong mustard it’s very nice.  Now being Slavic, I do prefer the Polish type with the apples and sugar, but this is very very good.

[Abacus]

WikiLeaks
@wikileaks (October 25, 2021)

Former CIA Director Mike Pompeo calls for prosecution
of the 30 sources who revealed CIA proposals to kill or kidnap Julian Assange
| #FreeAssangeNOW

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1452673146885222403

[der_mick]

Did I mention that I absolutely love the Italians!

https://twitter.com/Fahrenh02648912/status/1452741798992953350?s=20

[刘汉]

I have to say, I am saddened by the war like talk between Germany and Ru.F.  Too much misery has been shared between the peoples.  I don’t enjoy any of this tensions.  

On a lighter note, I buy this German sauerkraut “Khune”, I have to say with the black bread and my sausages and strong mustard it’s very nice.  Now being Slavic, I do prefer the Polish type with the apples and sugar, but this is very very good.

I like it both and the Chinese version too. The Germans and the Slavic people share a long history, we should not forget this and never give in to any attempt of the sea-powers to separate us. Too much blood was spilled between us, this should be a bond.

[刘汉]

Khartoum - burri
Anonymous forces thought to be “military/rapid support forces” wearing unfamiliar uniforms , trying to spread fear among the military coup opposers and all civilians #لا_للانقلاب_العسكري #الردة_مستحيلة #SUDAN_COUP https://t.co/1KALlCLeyu

— - (@Cardamomz) October 25, 2021

[刘汉]

FUCK AMERICAN IGNORANCE.
The US Embassy in Khartoum can't differentiate between Port Sudan in Sudan and Port Said in Egypt.
The author of this tweet must go back to school. https://t.co/mun4rSflHx

— sherif ahmed (@sherifa78060270) October 25, 2021

[刘汉]

From Sudanese social media now. Images circulated of flight from Khartoum to Jeddah tonight. This the flight record of the private jet for the past week. #SUDAN_COUP pic.twitter.com/x7MA91E31b

— Mohanad Humam (@moehash1) October 25, 2021

This means private jets between Saudi Arabia and Khartoum are still flying.

[刘汉]

What's the story behind the plane that took off from UAE to Khartoum to Jeddah. With no flight details.
حنك الطيارة دي شنو؟#لا_للانقلاب_العسكري #الردة_مستحيلة pic.twitter.com/yYz45zpqDG

— Kanz-Aldawla Othman (@kanzaldawla) October 25, 2021

[Abacus]

Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald (October 25, 2021)

Pierre Omidyar's Financing of the Facebook "Whistleblower" Campaign Reveals a Great Deal

twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1452677286575198217
greenwald.substack.com/p/pierre-omidyars-financing-of-the

[刘汉]

City of ElObeid in North Kordofan continues resistance against military coup now well into the evening. #SudanCoup#الردة_مستحيلة https://t.co/2WrERKyjiX

— Munchkin (@BSonblast) October 25, 2021

[刘汉]

#Trieste#Nogreenpass pic.twitter.com/PNfciitkiT

— Paroli600 I T CRISTIAN #UNODEIMILLE (@cristian_paroli) October 25, 2021

[Talos]

Anti-Zionist Jewish group pledges allegiance to Ayatollah Khamenei seeks asylum in Iran



LOL Israel now calling jews extremists and terrorists

[der_mick]

[...]

My point is: I keep seeing people who seem to genuinely crave change/revolution but if you ask them what it should look like and what chances of successful outcome they predict,   you don't get very satisfying answers. When I look at Sudan and those people, my heart grows bold but then again I remember where I am and I realize that people in "the West" will only ever start to act when it's to late.

There's a nice saying by Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker:
„Das deutsche Volk ist absolut Obrigkeitshörig, des Denkens entwöhnt, typischer Befehlsempfänger, ein Held vor dem Feind, aber ein totaler Mangel an Zivilcourage. Der typische Deutsche verteidigt sich erst dann, wenn er nichts mehr hat, das sich zu verteidigen lohnt. Wenn er aber aus seinem Schlaf erwacht ist, dann schlägt er im blinden Zorn alles kurz und klein. Auch jenes, was ihm vielleicht noch helfen könnte!"

Translated with deepl:
"The German people are absolutely obedient to the authorities, weaned on thinking, typical recipients of orders, a hero in front of the enemy, but a total lack of civil courage. The typical German defends himself only when he has nothing left worth defending. But when he wakes up from his sleep, he beats up everything in a blind rage. Also that, which could perhaps still help him!"

Do you mean Carl Friedrich or Richard von Weizsäcker?

This was from the philosopher Carl Friedrich Freiherr von Weizsäcker.

Napoleon and Lenin said similar things about the Germans. I think, this is something, that sets us apart from the French, Italians, etc. the Roman nations.  We are not easily enflamed. It takes a long time to upset the Germans. And then, when they are upset, all the other nations around have made some deals to live with it and have completely forgotten, what it was all about. I don't think, it has to do with obedience, rather with the German way of thinking. It seems to be more bound on principles. Maybe we can tolerate a lot, what the French etc. cannot, but when the principles are touched, this needs to be fixed, but it needs a long time of thinking. The French don't care about these principles, maybe they don't even understand, what the Germans are thinking about. There are many examples of this in mediaeval history.

You seem to be right about this.

But I have to say, that I don't think these attributes still apply to the majority nowadays. When I look around, at my fellow citizens, I come to realize that social media, technology, wokeness etc. have taken a huge toll. We (especially the younger generations) are not much different from those in the US or UK in certain aspects. We've become superficial, emotionally triggered, lazy and before everything else, consumers.

Just look at the principles with regard to freedom of speech. It is fully accepted by a majority that we need to "filter" information, which is regarded as "harmful". And we accept that politicians and tech companies decide what harmful means.

Or what about the strong push to discriminate unvaccinated people? When I read comments on Twitter, I can feel that fascistoid thinking. I remember, when I was in school I could not understand how a whole nation could not see what was going on. Now I think that I'm starting to understand. I'm quite sure that, should there ever "appear" a more dangerous Covid variant, people would cry for Covid Camps, like they built in Australia or Canada.

So to be honest, I don't see the principles. My gut tells me: As long as we have our nice big houses, our premium class cars and one or two holidays per year, we don't care about anything. And again I'm back at the notion of "Hard times make strong men..."

At least I have a feeling that this is how things are. Maybe I'm wrong and it's not just a minority that is not caught up in this superficial life. But I doubt it. And with this kind of people there is no chance for a real change/revolution.

[Zambeezi]

Max Blumenthal
@MaxBlumenthal (October 25, 2021)

Noam Chomsky doubles down on his previous call for the state to segregate The Unvaccinated from society:
"How can we get food to them? Well, that's actually their problem."
via @PrimoRadical: youtu.be/TzWcP2b4uZ4

twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1452490014533816323

Noam Chomsky doubles down on his previous call for the state to segregate The Unvaccinated from society:

"How can we get food to them? Well, that's actually their problem."

via @PrimoRadical https://t.co/WIjVOs1h7I pic.twitter.com/ZudDW6weoj

— Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) October 25, 2021

Dear Noam,
Wake the Fuck up!  

New Peer-reviewed
European Journal of Epidemiology

“Increases in Covid-19 unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries & 2947 counties in USA”

“Countries with higher percentage of popn fully vaccinated have higher Covid cases per 1 million ppl"https://t.co/9tCVya1npk

— Kulvinder Kaur MD (@dockaurG) October 3, 2021

 
Findings:
At the country-level, there appears to be no discernible relationship
between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days (Fig. 1).

[Zambeezi]

I have to say, I am saddened by the war like talk between Germany and Ru.F.  Too much misery has been shared between the peoples.  I don’t enjoy any of this tensions.  

On a lighter note, I buy this German sauerkraut “Khune”, I have to say with the black bread and my sausages and strong mustard it’s very nice.  Now being Slavic, I do prefer the Polish type with the apples and sugar, but this is very very good.

Dear Guest 12
It's about time for you to stop being a 'Guest' donchathink?
Come inside and enjoy your sausage with us.
We don't bite and we don't bait.  
'Ya gotta dance LIKE THERE'S NOBODY WATCHING! lol.... FUCK them!




►a friendly invitation to you as well Abacus

[der_mick]

Prince Charles is talking to a freshly vaccinated man who is just getting off the vaccination bus and when asked "how you feel?" the freshly vaccinated man answers "GREAT" & collapses at the same time. Prince Charles speaks: "Please don't broadcast this & don't take pictures."

https://twitter.com/JrWidukind/status/1452763022536151040?s=20

[Zambeezi]

Prince Charles is talking to a freshly vaccinated man who is just getting off the vaccination bus and when asked "how you feel?" the freshly vaccinated man answers "GREAT" & collapses at the same time. Prince Charles speaks: "Please don't broadcast this & don't take pictures."

https://twitter.com/JrWidukind/status/1452763022536151040?s=20

no pity on their circus but I grieve for the innocent.

[Böhse Tante]

So now Kiev threatens Moscow with missiles.
https://www.rt.com/russia/538367-zelensky-warns-kremlin-russia/
What is great Moscow chess player going to do now.  Zionist stooge in Kiev with backing of Zionist state who Great chess player just gave free hand to in Syria.  

I tell you once again, Igor Strelkov was the one who was correct, but then again he was not a chess playing Sun Tzu reader.  

Putin is in bed with the Zionists

https://www.weforum.org/press/2021/10/russia-joins-centre-for-the-fourth-industrial-revolution-network/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/bennett-extends-russia-trip-over-shabbat-after-warm-putin-talks-run-long/

Very nice, and what do you suggest? Since no "elite", no authority, no state leader and especially no economic leader can be trusted, the only thing left is the line from the "Internationale" in German:
To deliver us from misery, we can only do it ourselves.

So let's make revolution, I'm with it immediately, I'm just waiting for the masses to join in ...

I fear that most individuals think like that...let the masses start and I'll join in. I could imagine that in 1944-45 there were quite some people in Germany, who would have "joined in" if only there would have been any masses.

But I think there needs to be a spark that ignites the tinder and not many people are able to be that spark.

Next question: What exactly is it that we think of when we say "Let's make revolution"?
Some people think marching up to parliament with their self-made signs every Monday screaming and whistling will change something eventually. Others think revolution is only possible with a state actor in the back, providing funds and guidance/organisation. Yet again others would claim that without armament you don't have a realistic chance of changing the status quo.

So how would the "perfect revolution" look like? I'm not even sure if such matters can be discussed freely in a place like this.

.

I think such things can be discussed here, but better not in the "main news thread", perhaps under another topic.

[Böhse Tante]

WikiLeaks
@wikileaks (October 25, 2021)

Former CIA Director Mike Pompeo calls for prosecution
of the 30 sources who revealed CIA proposals to kill or kidnap Julian Assange
| #FreeAssangeNOW

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1452673146885222403

Former CIA Director Mike Pompeo calls for prosecution of the 30 sources who revealed CIA proposals to kill or kidnap Julian Assange | #FreeAssangeNOWhttps://t.co/5e5u0RtWkc

— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) October 25, 2021

pic.twitter.com/SGPb8dZcVw

— notmikeschultz (@realmikeschultz) October 25, 2021

[shachalnur]

.

(((noam chomsky)))

intellectual heavyweight ,loved by left wing students and progressive vaxxed losers.

fuck that satanic whore.

edit: oops sorry ,abacus already found that one,

Chomsky, Oct 2020: Trump is basically Hitler. Vote Biden to stop Orange Hitler
Chomsky, Oct 2021: Biden has a responsibility to remove, by starvation if necessary, these subhuman creatures from society https://t.co/59L88KmqqB

— Slow News Day (@SlowNewsDayShow) October 25, 2021

.

[KneelB4Zod!]

Well, since November 1st no free COVID tests for unvaxxed in Czech Republic. As I bother...

I have to pay 10 euros for a test. So far I made three, this week I'll have to make fourth one to visit doctor to clean my left ear which is clogged.

Yeah, here it will be at the similar price I guess.

[KneelB4Zod!]

Migrants try to enter #Poland pic.twitter.com/6mD50pvBkQ

— Ali Özkök (@Ozkok_A) October 25, 2021

[KneelB4Zod!]

Good morning btw