Re: #84 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe

[KneelB4Zod!]

Guy Elster
@guyelster
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#BREAKING White House says #Biden warns #Putin that US and its allies would respond with "strong economic and other measures" if #Russia attacks #Ukraine

[Matjaz]

Meanwhile Great Moscow chess player talks with senile pants shitter tomorrow.  Watch the chess player beg for legal guarantees, what a joke.  He already sold out Iran and Syria to be bombed by smirking Zionists, of-course he will sell out Donbas and probably Ru.F as well, and I don’t care how many sycophants come out of the woodwork and apologize for him.

All he has managed to do is INCREASE the aggressive NATO on his border; he had the initiative and lost it.  Igor Strelkov was right about him.  A man worth obscene monies and fine mansions and young pretty wife is not going to shake boat too much.  All his friends live in the West like London too.  Too bad for Russia, to have such a sell out.

Why do you care so much if Syria or Iran is being bombed by zionists? What makes you think that Russia is supposed to be some kind of defender of Iranians and Syrians from Israel? If Iranians can't contain themselves and play along with peaceful coexistence with Israel, it is their fault. Why should Russia always solve and deter their provocations in Syria? When Iran sends their troops, their SOF's, their weapons to Syria. When Iran is trying to have secret bases and preparing the terrain for invasion on Israel, isn't that their own fault? Why should Russia defend Iranian takeover of Syria? Russia don't owe anything to Iran or Syria.

[KneelB4Zod!]

Non jabbed in #queensland #australia to be denied life saving surgery.. #NoMedicalApartheid #NoVaccinePassportsAnywhere pic.twitter.com/5aesPmiZiK

— Gillian McKeith (@GillianMcKeith) December 7, 2021

[KneelB4Zod!]

Ali Özkök
@Ozkok_A
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35m
France arrests one of the Saudi suspects in the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi at Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris – AA, citing local media

[Guest 12]

In response to Matjaz, you ask what does Russia owe Syria, ok we can discuss this.  It is common knowledge that the west initially wanted Syria to host pipeline transit through country in which considerable volume of energy would flow. This pipeline would represent considerable competition to Russian concerns.

Russia having close relationship with Assad requested that he not go that rout, and assured Syria of Russian backing.  The Syrian civil war commenced in full when Assad formally rejected western approaches on pipeline.  Now if Assad would have just went with the western proposals, it is unlikely that Syria would be in the shape which it unfortunately finds itself in

Syria did Russia the favor.  Russia has a responsibility here.  Russia has allowed the Zionists to make a fool of them, and make them look unreliable and irresolute, facts.  Zionists are pushing current crisis in Ukraine, facts.

Now as for your contention that Iran is to blame in current state of relations with Israel, what alternative world do you reside on?

[Böhse Tante]

TRT/Turkey v NATO 'Propaganda Dirt Wars'  
Imperialists exposing each other's genocides

A brutal genocide of the Herero and Nama people was carried out by Germans during their occupation of modern day Namibia. An estimated 80 percent of the Herero population and 60 percent of the Nama were murdered pic.twitter.com/jVnYAUAsFZ

— TRT World (@trtworld) December 7, 2021

This fits with genocide, but also how "scientists" have dealt with the population in their own country before. The former German Federal Health Office was renamed the Robert Koch Institute after a scandal involving HIV-infected blood products. R, Koch's history and "operating" - not only in Africa - speaks for itself:

https://www.abendzeitung-muenchen.de/panorama/rki-namenspatron-robert-koch-hat-versuche-mit-menschen-gemacht-art-730662

"Koch did trials with a drug he had to know was dangerous, had a lot of side effects and was of questionable quality. The treatment hurt terribly, many patients went blind, and Atoxyl may also have been responsible for the death of a number of people.
...
A few years before his African expeditions, he had marketed a "cure" which he called tuberculin and with which a buoyant business was done. After all, tuberculosis was raging terribly at the beginning of the last century. Therefore, whole coffee houses were converted, where one could then obtain tuberculin. But then it turned out - his teacher and later adversary Rudolf von Virchow played a large part in this - that this remedy did not do any good, but harm; and that Koch did not even know what he was actually injecting. He didn't know the contents at all - a major scandal!

[Böhse Tante]

Yesterday China's Moon Rover Chang'e-4 discovered a mysterious cube like object sitting on the moon's surface that does not not appear to be of natural origin. It is set to spend the next two weeks analysing the object. pic.twitter.com/r6Tnzym0LO

— The Chollima Report (@ChollimaOrg) December 7, 2021

 

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This is surely the "Führerbunker" and soon they will also find the "Flugscheiben".

[Zambeezi]

Non jabbed in #queensland #australia to be denied life saving surgery.. #NoMedicalApartheid #NoVaccinePassportsAnywhere pic.twitter.com/5aesPmiZiK

— Gillian McKeith (@GillianMcKeith) December 7, 2021

Bounty on Your Life: Hospitals’ Incentive Payments for COVID-19
https://archive.md/JIfa5
https://aapsonline.org/bidens-bounty-on-your-life-hospitals-incentive-payments-for-covid-19/

Creating a “National Pandemic Emergency” provided justification for such sweeping actions
that override individual physician medical decision-making and patients’ rights.
The CARES Act provides incentives for hospitals to use treatments
dictated solely by the federal government under the auspices of the NIH.

These “bounties” must paid back if not “earned” by making the COVID-19 diagnosis and following the COVID-19 protocol.

The hospital payments include:

►every PCR test in the Emergency Room or upon admission = a government-paid fee to hospital.
►each positive COVID-19 diagnosis? Another bonus to the hospital.
►a COVID-19 admission? Another bonus to the hospital.
►remdesivir 20 percent “boost” bonus payment from Medicare on the entire hospital bill for use of remdesivir instead of medicines such as Ivermectin.
►mechanically ventilated? Another and larger bonus payment to the hospital
►COVID-19 as cause of death? more money to the hospital (even if patient did not die directly of COVID-19}.
A COVID-19 diagnosis also provides extra payments to coroners.

CARES Act implemented internal “value-based” payment programs
that ALSO track how many workers at a healthcare facility receive a COVID-19 vaccine.

Outside hospitals, physicians income is linked to performance-based pay
for treating patients with COVID-19 EUA drugs.
and
a failure to report this information to CMS can cost the physician 4% of reimbursement.

**note
Because of obfuscation with medical coding and legal jargon,
we cannot be certain of the actual amount each hospital receives per COVID-19 patient...
But
Attorney Thomas Renz and CMS whistleblowers have calculated a total payment
of at least $100,000 per patient.

[Wiltshire Cat]

Propaganda by Jacques Ellul
Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes (1965/1973) (French: Propagandes; original French edition: 1962) is a book on the subject of propaganda by French philosopher, theologian, legal scholar, and sociologist Jacques Ellul. This book appears to be the first attempt to study propaganda from a sociological approach as well as a psychological one. It presents a sophisticated taxonomy for propaganda, including such paired opposites as political–sociological, vertical–horizontal, rational–irrational, and agitation–integration. The book contains Ellul's theories about the nature of propaganda to adapt the individual to a society, to a living standard and to an activity aiming to make the individual serve and conform.
https://archive.org/details/Propaganda_201512 (Download possible)

In the course of the Corona crisis, many people were astonished to see a drastic narrowing of the spectrum of discourse. Why was it no longer possible to argue openly about certain issues? Why, for example, were the broadcasters unable to allow a television debate between - let's say - Drosten and Wieler on the one hand, and Wodarg and Bhakdi on the other? So something basically completely self-evident (and also worthy of a quota)?

That was so, Ellul would answer, because we were not in a discourse of any kind, but in a propaganda situation. And there are different rules. In connection with Corona, they were almost as relentless as they usually only be in times of war. Rally ´round the flag! Woe to those who step out of line! The deviants, the critics, are not intended in such constellations.
(Google-translation of part of a german article abouit the book)
https://multipolar-magazin.de/artikel/jacques-elluls-propaganda-entdeckung-eines-klassikers

[Mr Badger]

KREMLIN STATEMENT (machine translated)

"Meeting with US President Joseph Biden
In the format of a videoconference, Vladimir Putin had a lengthy conversation with the President of the United States of America, Joseph Biden.

December 7, 2021 08:15 PM Sochi
During a meeting with US President Joseph Biden (via videoconference).
During a meeting with US President Joseph Biden (via videoconference).
In particular, they talked about the implementation of the results of the Russian-American summit held in Geneva in June 2021. The importance of consistent implementation of the agreements reached at the highest level and the preservation of the "spirit of Geneva" when considering issues of bilateral relations and other problems arising between Russia and the United States was noted.

In this context, the presidents recalled the alliance of the two countries during the Second World War. They emphasized that the sacrifices made then should not be forgotten, and the alliance itself should serve as an example for building contacts and working together in today's realities.

The predominant place in the conversation was occupied by problems related to the internal Ukrainian crisis and the lack of progress in the implementation of the 2015 Minsk agreements, which are the uncontested basis for a peaceful settlement. The President of Russia, using specific examples, illustrated the destructive line of Kiev, aimed at the complete dismantling of the Minsk agreements and agreements reached in the "Normandy format", expressed serious concern about Kiev's provocative actions against Donbass.

Joseph Biden, for his part, emphasized the allegedly “threatening” nature of the movements of Russian troops near the Ukrainian borders and outlined sanctions measures that the United States and its allies would be ready to apply in the event of a further escalation of the situation.

In response, Vladimir Putin stressed that the responsibility should not be shifted onto the shoulders of Russia, since it is NATO that is making dangerous attempts to conquer Ukrainian territory and is building up its military potential at our borders. Therefore, Russia is seriously interested in obtaining reliable, legally fixed guarantees excluding the expansion of NATO in the eastern direction and the deployment of offensive strike weapons systems in the states adjacent to Russia.

The leaders agreed to instruct their representatives to engage in substantive consultations on these sensitive issues.

When exchanging views on information security, both sides emphasized the importance of an actively ongoing dialogue on this topic. They expressed their readiness to continue practical cooperation in criminal procedural and operational-technical areas of combating cybercrime.

The state of affairs around the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action on the Iranian nuclear program was considered. The President of Russia noted the importance of its full implementation within the initially agreed framework. The leaders expressed the hope that the negotiations on this issue, resumed at the end of November in Vienna, will be held in a constructive spirit and will allow reaching decisions acceptable to all participants.

The bilateral issues were discussed. It was stated that cooperation is still in an unsatisfactory state. This is manifested, in particular, in the difficulties experienced in their work by the "curtailed" diplomatic missions of both countries. Vladimir Putin stressed that all this is a consequence of the line of the American authorities, which five years ago began to practice large-scale restrictions, bans and mass expulsions of Russian diplomats, to which we are forced to react in a mirror-like manner. The Russian side proposed to nullify all the accumulated restrictions on the functioning of diplomatic missions, which could also serve to normalize other aspects of bilateral relations.

The Presidents expressed the opinion that, taking into account their special responsibility for maintaining international security and stability, Russia and the United States will continue dialogue and necessary contacts.

In general, the conversation was frank and businesslike."

[Mr Badger]

Yesterday China's Moon Rover Chang'e-4 discovered a mysterious cube like object sitting on the moon's surface that does not not appear to be of natural origin. It is set to spend the next two weeks analysing the object. pic.twitter.com/r6Tnzym0LO

— The Chollima Report (@ChollimaOrg) December 7, 2021

 

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This is surely the "Führerbunker" and soon they will also find the "Flugscheiben".

 

 
I ran this image through two different AI programs and got these results. I'm inclined to think the first one will prove to be more accurate, even though it does resemble a giant Monty Python-esque butt

[Zambeezi]

The Canadian government is putting travellers from Africa into quarantine hotels, refusing them changes of clothes and hygiene products, then not releasing them even after they test negative https://t.co/HdAOCJTyaR

— Adrian Morrow (@AdrianMorrow) December 7, 2021

[Zambeezi]

[Zambeezi]

https://declassifieduk.org/mi5-report-on-troubles-to-stay-secret-court-rules/

[Zambeezi]

https://www.mk.ru/politics/2021/12/07/ssha-gotovyatsya-k-polnoy-izolyacii-rossii-ot-mirovoy-finansovoy-sistemy.html


https://www.e1.ru/text/health/2021/12/07/70301126/
https://twitter.com/WeissSerg/status/1468232841523875844


https://rg.ru/2021/11/14/qr-kody-korotko-o-samom-glavnom.html

[刘汉]

Propaganda by Jacques Ellul
Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes (1965/1973) (French: Propagandes; original French edition: 1962) is a book on the subject of propaganda by French philosopher, theologian, legal scholar, and sociologist Jacques Ellul. This book appears to be the first attempt to study propaganda from a sociological approach as well as a psychological one. It presents a sophisticated taxonomy for propaganda, including such paired opposites as political–sociological, vertical–horizontal, rational–irrational, and agitation–integration. The book contains Ellul's theories about the nature of propaganda to adapt the individual to a society, to a living standard and to an activity aiming to make the individual serve and conform.
https://archive.org/details/Propaganda_201512 (Download possible)

In the course of the Corona crisis, many people were astonished to see a drastic narrowing of the spectrum of discourse. Why was it no longer possible to argue openly about certain issues? Why, for example, were the broadcasters unable to allow a television debate between - let's say - Drosten and Wieler on the one hand, and Wodarg and Bhakdi on the other? So something basically completely self-evident (and also worthy of a quota)?

That was so, Ellul would answer, because we were not in a discourse of any kind, but in a propaganda situation. And there are different rules. In connection with Corona, they were almost as relentless as they usually only be in times of war. Rally ´round the flag! Woe to those who step out of line! The deviants, the critics, are not intended in such constellations.
(Google-translation of part of a german article abouit the book)
https://multipolar-magazin.de/artikel/jacques-elluls-propaganda-entdeckung-eines-klassikers

This is nothing new. The drastic narrowing of the discourse is going on for about 30 years now. And it is well known in philosophy, that discourse is an illusion. Voltaire said: "Find out, whom you are not allowed to contradict and you know, who is ruling over you."
All the early Platonic dialogues with Socrates are about exactly this topic. All are discussing a topic and then Socrates joins in and tries to find out, what they are talking about. End of line is, no one knows actually anything, even the invited "specialists", the Sophists "the people, who know". So Socrates has exposed them all and ridiculed them. This went on till the powerful people in Athens had enough and killed him.

[Zambeezi]

https://anti-imperialist-action-ireland.com/blog/2020/07/13/thy-will-be-done-evangelical-imperialism-in-latin-america-discussed-by-hugo-turner/

[Matjaz]

In response to Matjaz, you ask what does Russia owe Syria, ok we can discuss this.  It is common knowledge that the west initially wanted Syria to host pipeline transit through country in which considerable volume of energy would flow. This pipeline would represent considerable competition to Russian concerns.

Russia having close relationship with Assad requested that he not go that rout, and assured Syria of Russian backing.  The Syrian civil war commenced in full when Assad formally rejected western approaches on pipeline.  Now if Assad would have just went with the western proposals, it is unlikely that Syria would be in the shape which it unfortunately finds itself in

Syria did Russia the favor.  Russia has a responsibility here.  Russia has allowed the Zionists to make a fool of them, and make them look unreliable and irresolute, facts.  Zionists are pushing current crisis in Ukraine, facts.

Now as for your contention that Iran is to blame in current state of relations with Israel, what alternative world do you reside on?

Assad dynasty was threatened, Russia came in and saved it. In return gulf states pipeline was cancelled. Both parties came out satisfied. Now Iranians are a third party in this, that happen to be another Syrian ally. Iranians made no official deal with Russia, right? Now, how and why is Russia obliged to defend Iranian military assets in Syria? If Iran is not able to contain himself from provoking Israelis at their doorstep, it is Iranian fault. Why should Russia defend them, I don't get it. Why do Iranians keep on bringing military assets to Syria? I think its Israelis right to neutralise any Iranian threat in Syria. Iran openly admits they want to hurt Israel. So what do Russians got to do with this? If Iran wants to play let them play and take the hits. They would not take any hits if their army would stay out of Syria am I right?

[Talos]

Meanwhile Great Moscow chess player talks with senile pants shitter tomorrow.  Watch the chess player beg for legal guarantees, what a joke.  He already sold out Iran and Syria to be bombed by smirking Zionists, of-course he will sell out Donbas and probably Ru.F as well, and I don’t care how many sycophants come out of the woodwork and apologize for him.

All he has managed to do is INCREASE the aggressive NATO on his border; he had the initiative and lost it.  Igor Strelkov was right about him.  A man worth obscene monies and fine mansions and young pretty wife is not going to shake boat too much.  All his friends live in the West like London too.  Too bad for Russia, to have such a sell out.

Why do you care so much if Syria or Iran is being bombed by zionists? What makes you think that Russia is supposed to be some kind of defender of Iranians and Syrians from Israel? If Iranians can't contain themselves and play along with peaceful coexistence with Israel, it is their fault. Why should Russia always solve and deter their provocations in Syria? When Iran sends their troops, their SOF's, their weapons to Syria. When Iran is trying to have secret bases and preparing the terrain for invasion on Israel, isn't that their own fault? Why should Russia defend Iranian takeover of Syria? Russia don't owe anything to Iran or Syria.

"Peaceful coextensive" with Zionists lol you are out of your mind as long as Zionists kill Palestinians and steal land there will be no peace. Iran, Syria and Lebanon don't recognize Israel and Iran has no bases in Syria stop spreading Zionist/US propaganda Iran simply has small numbers of troops in Syria to oversee flights and weapons deliveries to Hezbollah in order to prepare for future war with Israel.

[Matjaz]

Meanwhile Great Moscow chess player talks with senile pants shitter tomorrow.  Watch the chess player beg for legal guarantees, what a joke.  He already sold out Iran and Syria to be bombed by smirking Zionists, of-course he will sell out Donbas and probably Ru.F as well, and I don’t care how many sycophants come out of the woodwork and apologize for him.

All he has managed to do is INCREASE the aggressive NATO on his border; he had the initiative and lost it.  Igor Strelkov was right about him.  A man worth obscene monies and fine mansions and young pretty wife is not going to shake boat too much.  All his friends live in the West like London too.  Too bad for Russia, to have such a sell out.

Why do you care so much if Syria or Iran is being bombed by zionists? What makes you think that Russia is supposed to be some kind of defender of Iranians and Syrians from Israel? If Iranians can't contain themselves and play along with peaceful coexistence with Israel, it is their fault. Why should Russia always solve and deter their provocations in Syria? When Iran sends their troops, their SOF's, their weapons to Syria. When Iran is trying to have secret bases and preparing the terrain for invasion on Israel, isn't that their own fault? Why should Russia defend Iranian takeover of Syria? Russia don't owe anything to Iran or Syria.

"Peaceful coextensive" with Zionists lol you are out of your mind as long as Zionists kill Palestinians and steal land there will be no peace. Iran, Syria and Lebanon don't recognize Israel and Iran has no bases in Syria stop spreading Zionist/US propaganda Iran simply has small numbers of troops in Syria to oversee flights and weapons deliveries to Hezbollah in order to prepare for future war with Israel.

Syria and Israel are still in war as far as I remember. Russia got no role in that war, right? So again, why should they get involved in decades old disputes between Israelis and their neighbors?

And yes, Iran does have significant military assets in Syria, bases included, at least they had them during active years of Syrian war. There were tens of thousands of Iranian military personnel in Syria, so all these men had to be stationed somewhere, right? If they have bases there today or not I don't know, I don't follow but don't act like there is no Iranian military assets in Syria. Israel when bombing Syria attacks those Iranian targets. And even if they hit Syrian targets, remember they are still in war with Syria, right? So what does Russia have to do with it? Why you think Russians should solve these conflicts? Iranians are very aggressive when it comes to Syria and keep moving their military there and Israel tries to destroy it. Simple as that.

[Matjaz]

I think Muslims should just let go when it comes to Israel. Jews are too strong to fight and are unbeatable when it comes to defending Israeli state. All you do with this conflict is produce numerous casualties. Israel should have its country and Palestinians should get a new patch of land from one of their brotherly Muslim neighbors. I think that would be the smartest move to make. You are trying to fight here with the most developed world(USA/NATO/EU) that has abundant assets in pretty much anything. Israel can not be defeated military. In case that happens they will nuke everything, what kind of victory is this?

Is the fate of Palestinians sad and unjust? Of course, but what can you do? Smartest thing would be like I said, for them to move to a patch of land given by them from one of muslim neighbors. Otherwise this conflict will continue forever and muslims will be on the losing side. Generations damaged and lost in conflicts.

[Talos]

Meanwhile Great Moscow chess player talks with senile pants shitter tomorrow.  Watch the chess player beg for legal guarantees, what a joke.  He already sold out Iran and Syria to be bombed by smirking Zionists, of-course he will sell out Donbas and probably Ru.F as well, and I don’t care how many sycophants come out of the woodwork and apologize for him.

All he has managed to do is INCREASE the aggressive NATO on his border; he had the initiative and lost it.  Igor Strelkov was right about him.  A man worth obscene monies and fine mansions and young pretty wife is not going to shake boat too much.  All his friends live in the West like London too.  Too bad for Russia, to have such a sell out.

Why do you care so much if Syria or Iran is being bombed by zionists? What makes you think that Russia is supposed to be some kind of defender of Iranians and Syrians from Israel? If Iranians can't contain themselves and play along with peaceful coexistence with Israel, it is their fault. Why should Russia always solve and deter their provocations in Syria? When Iran sends their troops, their SOF's, their weapons to Syria. When Iran is trying to have secret bases and preparing the terrain for invasion on Israel, isn't that their own fault? Why should Russia defend Iranian takeover of Syria? Russia don't owe anything to Iran or Syria.

"Peaceful coextensive" with Zionists lol you are out of your mind as long as Zionists kill Palestinians and steal land there will be no peace. Iran, Syria and Lebanon don't recognize Israel and Iran has no bases in Syria stop spreading Zionist/US propaganda Iran simply has small numbers of troops in Syria to oversee flights and weapons deliveries to Hezbollah in order to prepare for future war with Israel.

Syria and Israel are still in war as far as I remember.  Russia got no role in that war, right? So again, why should they get involved in decades old disputes between Israelis and their neighbors?

And yes, Iran does have significant military assets in Syria, bases included, at least they had them during active years of Syrian war. There were tens of thousands of Iranian military personnel in Syria, so all these men had to be stationed somewhere, right? If they have bases there today or not I don't know, I don't follow but don't act like there is no Iranian military assets in Syria. Israel when bombing Syria attacks those Iranian targets. And even if they hit Syrian targets, remember they are still in war with Syria, right? So what does Russia have to do with it? Why you think Russians should solve these conflicts? Iranians are very aggressive when it comes to Syria and keep moving their military there and Israel tries to destroy it. Simple as that.

Iran at most has a few hundred IRGC in Syria mostly in Abu Kamal crossing and Damascus airport areas but has tens of thousands of Iraqi, Afghan and Lebanese Shia fighters under its control in Syria. Syria will need those fighters when the time finally comes to attack Idlib and YPG controlled areas. As for Russia they can't be trusted as they are a Israeli 5th column in Syria and its best if Syria keeps its guided ballistic missile locations secret from Russia as Russia will leak it to Israel.

[Talos]

I think Muslims should just let go when it comes to Israel. Jews are too strong to fight and are unbeatable when it comes to defending Israeli state. All you do with this conflict is produce numerous casualties. Israel should have its country and Palestinians should get a new patch of land from one of their brotherly Muslim neighbors. I think that would be the smartest move to make. You are trying to fight here with the most developed world(USA/NATO/EU) that has abundant assets in pretty much anything. Israel can not be defeated military. In case that happens they will nuke everything, what kind of victory is this?

Is the fate of Palestinians sad and unjust? Of course, but what can you do? Smartest thing would be like I said, for them to move to a patch of land given by them from one of muslim neighbors. Otherwise this conflict will continue forever and muslims will be on the losing side. Generations damaged and lost in conflicts.

Palestinians aren't going anywhere regardless of the odds and Muslims will never give up Al Aqsa mosque or Jerusalem so keep dreaming Hezbollah showed in 2006 how to fight Israel so this war will continue for hundreds of years if need be and shows why its important that Iran gets nukes to counter zionist nukes.

[Matjaz]

Meanwhile Great Moscow chess player talks with senile pants shitter tomorrow.  Watch the chess player beg for legal guarantees, what a joke.  He already sold out Iran and Syria to be bombed by smirking Zionists, of-course he will sell out Donbas and probably Ru.F as well, and I don’t care how many sycophants come out of the woodwork and apologize for him.

All he has managed to do is INCREASE the aggressive NATO on his border; he had the initiative and lost it.  Igor Strelkov was right about him.  A man worth obscene monies and fine mansions and young pretty wife is not going to shake boat too much.  All his friends live in the West like London too.  Too bad for Russia, to have such a sell out.

Why do you care so much if Syria or Iran is being bombed by zionists? What makes you think that Russia is supposed to be some kind of defender of Iranians and Syrians from Israel? If Iranians can't contain themselves and play along with peaceful coexistence with Israel, it is their fault. Why should Russia always solve and deter their provocations in Syria? When Iran sends their troops, their SOF's, their weapons to Syria. When Iran is trying to have secret bases and preparing the terrain for invasion on Israel, isn't that their own fault? Why should Russia defend Iranian takeover of Syria? Russia don't owe anything to Iran or Syria.

"Peaceful coextensive" with Zionists lol you are out of your mind as long as Zionists kill Palestinians and steal land there will be no peace. Iran, Syria and Lebanon don't recognize Israel and Iran has no bases in Syria stop spreading Zionist/US propaganda Iran simply has small numbers of troops in Syria to oversee flights and weapons deliveries to Hezbollah in order to prepare for future war with Israel.

Syria and Israel are still in war as far as I remember.  Russia got no role in that war, right? So again, why should they get involved in decades old disputes between Israelis and their neighbors?

And yes, Iran does have significant military assets in Syria, bases included, at least they had them during active years of Syrian war. There were tens of thousands of Iranian military personnel in Syria, so all these men had to be stationed somewhere, right? If they have bases there today or not I don't know, I don't follow but don't act like there is no Iranian military assets in Syria. Israel when bombing Syria attacks those Iranian targets. And even if they hit Syrian targets, remember they are still in war with Syria, right? So what does Russia have to do with it? Why you think Russians should solve these conflicts? Iranians are very aggressive when it comes to Syria and keep moving their military there and Israel tries to destroy it. Simple as that.

Iran at most has a few hundred IRGC in Syria mostly in Abu Kamal crossing and Damascus airport areas but has tens of thousands of Iraqi, Afghan and Lebanese Shia fighters under its control in Syria. Syria will need those fighters when the time finally comes to attack Idlib and YPG controlled areas. As for Russia they can't be trusted as they are a Israeli 5th column in Syria and its best if Syria keeps its guided ballistic missile locations secret from Russia as Russia will leak it to Israel.

You really believe they gonna go for Idlib? What's the holdup? They've been waiting for years now. Idlib is turning into Golan heights, forever occupied. Now would be best time to do it since western world is occupied with pandemia. There would be almost no pressure from western powers if Syria launches huge offensive on Idlib. West is preoccupated with bullying of its own population.

[Talos]

Yemeni Armed Forces 'days away' from liberating oil-rich Marib: Report
Field sources in the strategic province say that Saudi-led coalition troops in Marib have suffered "major collapses" in their ranks

https://thecradle.co/Article/news/4494

It seems the Houthis captured Jabal al-Balaq mountain which was the last obstacle and gives them total fire control over Marib

[Matjaz]

I think Muslims should just let go when it comes to Israel. Jews are too strong to fight and are unbeatable when it comes to defending Israeli state. All you do with this conflict is produce numerous casualties. Israel should have its country and Palestinians should get a new patch of land from one of their brotherly Muslim neighbors. I think that would be the smartest move to make. You are trying to fight here with the most developed world(USA/NATO/EU) that has abundant assets in pretty much anything. Israel can not be defeated military. In case that happens they will nuke everything, what kind of victory is this?

Is the fate of Palestinians sad and unjust? Of course, but what can you do? Smartest thing would be like I said, for them to move to a patch of land given by them from one of muslim neighbors. Otherwise this conflict will continue forever and muslims will be on the losing side. Generations damaged and lost in conflicts.

Palestinians aren't going anywhere regardless of the odds and Muslims will never give up Al Aqsa mosque or Jerusalem so keep dreaming Hezbollah showed in 2006 how to fight Israel so this war will continue for hundreds of years if need be and shows why its important that Iran gets nukes to counter zionist nukes.

You see? So that is the main reason, Al Aqsa mosque. Although there were Jews there first not Muslims but somehow Muslims believe it is their site. Islam was born  1600 years after Judaism. That place was holy to Jews and then Christians before Muslims ever came. Don't you think Jews have more rights to that place then Muslims who occupied it by force? Al-Aqsa was built on top of Jewish temple, how disrespectful is that?

And not to troll you but Palestinian numbers are shrinking dramatically in Israel, they are losing huge from decade to decade. It is their stubbornness that will cause their demise. They should just move and start living peacefully because they have no other choice.

Look how bad it is for Palestinians? Jews are getting theirs no matter, just like they are getting theirs elsewhere, whether it be in USA or Europe.

[Talos]

Urgent | Reuters on the United Nations Mission: 7 British peacekeepers were killed and 3 wounded by an IED in central Mali

[Guest 12]

Matjaz,

I read and contemplated your response; ultimately you could be correct in what you imply in the case. As the saying goes, “Those whom you can not defeat, you must join.” Putin has subscribed to this theory as we can see with his total subservience to the covid protocols and much else.

It is lamentable what world situation is today with these Satan worshipers having their way with the world. Matjaz sadly I think you are right, we won’t beat them. There is always alcohol and memories until we die I guess. Good luck to everybody here. Zod you have a good forum, one of the best out there. Thank you for it. Good bye all.

[Böhse Tante]

https://www.epochtimes.de/wissen/forschung/jetzt-live-zweite-pathologie-konferenz-praesentiert-obduktionsergebnisse-von-corona-geimpften-a3658395.html

"Corona vaccination: Second pathology conference presents autopsy results

The mysterious death of people after a covid vaccination puzzles many scientists. Was the vaccination the cause of death or a pre-existing disease? The pathologist Professor Dr. Arne Burkhardt has been investigating this question for months with a team of experts. On 4 December, he will present further results."



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Attention, the videos seem to be constantly deleted again by YT.

This again to the previous conference:

https://www.epochtimes.de/wissen/forschung/jetzt-live-pathologen-enthuellen-obduktionsergebnisse-von-verstorbenen-corona-geimpften-a3607894.html

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Info from here:

https://www.heise.de/forum/Telepolis/Kommentare/Impfen-wo-ist-das-Problem/Re-Fangen-wir-mal-wieder-in-der-Mitte-der-Geschichte-an/posting-40104483/show/

"these vaccines contain artefacts, i.e. rectangular and triangular objects of non-biological origin. This has never happened before with any other vaccine".

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Hopefully there will soon be translations, transcripts ...

[Talos]

I think Muslims should just let go when it comes to Israel. Jews are too strong to fight and are unbeatable when it comes to defending Israeli state. All you do with this conflict is produce numerous casualties. Israel should have its country and Palestinians should get a new patch of land from one of their brotherly Muslim neighbors. I think that would be the smartest move to make. You are trying to fight here with the most developed world(USA/NATO/EU) that has abundant assets in pretty much anything. Israel can not be defeated military. In case that happens they will nuke everything, what kind of victory is this?

Is the fate of Palestinians sad and unjust? Of course, but what can you do? Smartest thing would be like I said, for them to move to a patch of land given by them from one of muslim neighbors. Otherwise this conflict will continue forever and muslims will be on the losing side. Generations damaged and lost in conflicts.

Palestinians aren't going anywhere regardless of the odds and Muslims will never give up Al Aqsa mosque or Jerusalem so keep dreaming Hezbollah showed in 2006 how to fight Israel so this war will continue for hundreds of years if need be and shows why its important that Iran gets nukes to counter zionist nukes.

You see? So that is the main reason, Al Aqsa mosque. Although there were Jews there first not Muslims but somehow Muslims believe it is their site. Islam was born  1600 years after Judaism. That place was holy to Jews and then Christians before Muslims ever came. Don't you think Jews have more rights to that place then Muslims who occupied it by force? Al-Aqsa was built on top of Jewish temple, how disrespectful is that?

And not to troll you but Palestinian numbers are shrinking dramatically in Israel, they are losing huge from decade to decade. It is their stubbornness that will cause their demise. They should just move and start living peacefully because they have no other choice.


Look how bad it is for Palestinians? Jews are getting theirs no matter, just like they are getting theirs elsewhere, whether it be in USA or Europe.

1. Most Jews in Palestine are Askenazis and have nothing to do with the region historically
2. Romans destroyed temple not muslims
3. Al Aqsa was not built on top of temple thats a zionist myth
4. Palestinian population is now 5 million and birthrate is 4.2 one of the highest in the world and one of fastest growing population in the world
5. 10% of Palestinians are Christians and they are as determined to defend the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and Bethlehem from zionists as muslims are to defend Al Aqsa

Like I said the Palestinians are going nowhere no matter how bad things get so keep dreaming of ethnically cleansing Muslim and Christians from region you zionist clown