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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Escobar: What Putin Really Told Biden https://t.co/5exzNZDC41
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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BREAKING: Russia hands over note of warning to US Embassy in Russia to cease hostile actions that endanger civilians "Otherwise, we will deploy all the means at our disposal to prevent and remove the emerging threats." https://t.co/VBngGPXv9f
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RUSSIA: "Military activity of the US & NATO near Russia’s border, including flights by combat aircraft & dangerous manoeuvres by warships, continues to spiral upwards. USA & its allies switched from attempts to test our border defense to provocations against civilian aircraft."
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Russia adds 3rd squadron: New Su-34M bombers now in service with the Eastern Military District - 277th Bomber Aviation Reg. with huge upgrades-- including precision weapons, Kh-35U [AShM], & new reconnaissance capabilities. This now allows Su 34 to control the Northern Sea Route. pic.twitter.com/X2iS4dYfbD
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an0n wrote:you all seem to forget that before Judaism, Christianity and Islam there were other religions. older religions..
Zoroastrianism or Mazdayasna is one of the world's oldest continuously-practiced religions, based on the teachings of the Iranian-speaking prophet Zoroaster (also known as Zaraθuštra in Avestan or as Zartosht in Modern Persian).[1][2] It has a dualistic cosmology of good and evil and an eschatology which predicts the ultimate conquest of evil by good.[3] Zoroastrianism exalts an uncreated and benevolent deity of wisdom known as Ahura Mazda (lit. 'Wise Lord') as its supreme being.[4] The unique historical features of Zoroastrianism, such as its monotheism,[5][6][7][8][9][excessive citations] messianism, belief in judgement after death, conception of heaven and hell, and free will may have influenced other religious and philosophical systems, including Gnosticism, Greek philosophy,[10] Islam,[11] and the Baháʼí Faith.
With possible roots dating back to the 2nd millennium BCE, Zoroastrianism enters recorded history in the 5th century BCE.[12] It served as the state religion of the ancient Iranian empires for more than a millennium, from around 600 BCE to 650 CE, but declined from the 7th century CE onwards as a direct result of the Muslim conquest of Persia (633–654 CE) which led to the large-scale persecution of the Zoroastrian people.[13] Recent estimates place the current number of Zoroastrians in the world at around 110,000–120,000[14] at most, with the majority living in India, Iran, and North America; their number has been thought to be declining. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism
Canaanite religion refers to the group of ancient Semitic religions practiced by the Canaanites living in the ancient Levant from at least the early Bronze Age through the first centuries AD. Canaanite religion was polytheistic and, in some cases, monolatristic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Canaanite_religion
According to critical scholars, the Torah consists of inconsistent texts edited together in a way that calls attention to divergent accounts.[39][page needed][40][41] Several of these scholars, such as Professor Martin Rose and John Bright, suggest that during the First Temple period the people of Israel believed that each nation had its own god, but that their god was superior to other gods.[42][page needed][43][page needed] Some suggest that strict monotheism developed during the Babylonian Exile, perhaps in reaction to Zoroastrian dualism.[44] In this view, it was only by the Hellenic period that most Jews came to believe that their god was the only god and that the notion of a clearly bounded Jewish nation identical with the Jewish religion formed.[45] John Day argues that the origins of biblical Yahweh, El, Asherah, and Ba'al, may be rooted in earlier Canaanite religion, which was centered on a pantheon of gods much like the Greek pantheon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism#History
Ancient Greek religion encompasses the collection of beliefs, rituals, and mythology originating in ancient Greece in the form of both popular public religion and cult practices. The application of the modern concept of "religion" to ancient cultures has been questioned as anachronistic.[1] The ancient Greeks did not have a word for 'religion' in the modern sense. Likewise, no Greek writer known to us classifies either the gods or the cult practices into separate 'religions'.[2] Instead, for example, Herodotus speaks of the Hellenes as having "common shrines of the gods and sacrifices, and the same kinds of customs." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_religion
Judaism is pretty new religion. historically speaking. as is Christianity and Islam
Jews claim on the land is based on the contract with a god
The Hebrew Bible makes reference to a number of covenants (Hebrew: בְּרִיתוֹת) with God (YHWH). These include the Noahic Covenant (in Genesis), which is between God and all living creatures, as well as a number of more specific covenants with Abraham, the whole Israelite people, the Israelite priesthood, and the Davidic lineage of kings. In form and terminology, these covenants echo the kinds of treaty agreements in the surrounding ancient world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covenant_(biblical)
but the problem is...this contract disappeared when Babylon sacked Jerusalem in the 6th century BCE. In the thousands of years since it has never been found. it would be only logical for Jews to produce this contract and things will be settled....problem is..Jews do not have this contract in their possession. and have no proof that this type of contract was ever signed.
it is obvious, that there are older religions. Even Zoroastrism is not so old. The Egyptians, the Sumerians, the Indians, the Chinese, they all had their religions, long before any "monotheistic" religions were developed. The difference is not the number of gods. The difference is, what a god is. For all these peoples gods were and are forces, that are present in nature. These are natural forces. The people had to live with them. They had to deal with them. Actually you can see these forces, you can experience these forces directly, immediately. They are real. That is why these people created pictures for them. From these pictures they developed their writing systems. These writing systems (actually it is one, only the pronunciation is different, because they are pictures) represent nature directly. The only surviving culture is the Chinese culture. They are the last man standing.
For "monotheistic" religions a god is the voice in your head. This voice is speaking to chosen people permanently. This voice has no connection to nature. So the words are just pronunciation. They cannot be represented by pictures. What this voice is telling, cannot be seen in nature. To be honest, that is exactly, what modern psychology calls schizophrenia. One thing, this voice is saying, is: "Destroy the pictures!" or "Exploit nature!"
I would agree, that according to current chronology, this voice started speaking during the 6th century BC in Babylon, not before. There they put together (from older texts of course) the Tora.
My opinion about Christianity is, that it was planned as a compromise to heal the big divide between the people who believed this voice and all the others. Again according to my opinion, this was done by a monk, who was trained and educated in the Tora on the one hand and the Lotos sutra of the Mahayana Buddhism on the other hand. Just compare, what Jesus is preaching with the words of the Lotos sutra.
Zionists are very strong in academia. They try to block any real research about the origin of "monotheism".
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All, who belonged to a book-religion (Jews > Tora, Christians > Euangelion and Sabaeans > Writings of Hermes Trismegistos) were suddenly free citizens, who just had to pay a tax, the jiziya. This was very attractive to many. That's why Islam spread like wildfire. Slaves could only be made among non-book-religions. One of the vizirs in Damascus, Ioannes Damaskenos was a leading Christian by the way. The Jewish schools in Mesopotamia flourished under the Muslims.
You wrote that like it is just some minor irrelevance while in fact it is a huge breach of human rights. Why should I or anyone else pay tax based on my religious believe? It is enough I pay taxes to the state already and now I'd have to pay taxes as well cause I don't follow the right God?! Jiziya is a tool with which you harm and break societies severely. It harms you to the point when it is not reasonable anymore to reject Islam. And with attitude like that Islam got new followers, with bullying of non-believers, not with attractiveness. It was like that in Balkans, all these modern day Bosnians accepted Islam because they had to, not because they saw some spiritual breakthrough.
@Talos, question for Talos really, I confused your post with his. Relly want to know what its like in Middle east when it comes to forced vaccination of population.
I'm really interested how it is with pandemia in Iran. Not much info comes out of western Asia, middle east about covid. Does your government forces you to take the vaccinations or is Iranian population get a free pass? Not much info about this coming out of Syria either or Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and so on. Does middle easterns get a pass and if not, what kind of vaccination are you using? Western or Sputnik or Chinese one or Iran made its own?
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刘汉 wrote:Matjaz wrote:刘汉 wrote:
As hard as Zionists try, they cannot prove, that Jews were there first. They have their own archaeologists to look for Jewish remains, but how bad, they cannot find any (Silverman & Finkelstein: The bible unearthed, they are Jews and archaeologists, their were paid by the Zionist regime to excavate in Israel and they openly admit, that they cannot find the temple of Solomon, because there is none.).
What you wrote is called "a campaign of intellectual erasure", I believe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_denial
I thought there is no dilema about whether that place is historical land of Jews. They were there for certain before any Muslim arrived.
There's been plenty of artefacts found.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Warning_inscription
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpeting_Place_inscription
These are not part of Temple but they are artefacts that prove Jews were there before Muslims.
And then there is this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_Stone
All this stuff was there centuries before Muslims came.
First there is a dilemma. wikipedia is not a good source for this, because it is under full Zionist control.
You need to make a distinction between the temple of Solomon (the "first" temple) and the temple of Herodes (the "second" temple). From the first there are zero remains, the second one is proven, but the second one was built on a place some Jews in Babylon said, that they had lived before, without any prove. And there is a long discussion in Ancient Studies, how and when the Tora was written.
No man, in this case wikipedia will do just fine, I agree wiki has a lot of misinformation going on but this information is common knowledge, there is not much room for manipulation here, all these artefacts were found on that place. This is like, wiki would explain color of rainbow and then they would write down all the colors but then someone would come and say, "hey man, it is wikipedia, all this stuff about rainbow is wrong because it is written in wikipedia and wikipedia manipulates the information." But you can't manipulate info that is a common knowledge, you understand?
So, first or second temple, main thing that I wanted to confirm is that Jews were there before Muslims, that's all. Nobody can refute this.
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Why do you keep trying to turn it into a Muslim and Jew conflict? when its a muslim, christian and druze together against jews conflict?
1. Sirhan Sirhan the Palestinian who killed Robert F. Kennedy was a Christian.
2. Chris Bandak the leader of the Church of the Nativity brigade is Christian
3. Wadie Haddad the founder of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine militia was a Christian
4. George Habash a founding member of Fatah military wing is christian
5. Theodosios Hanna of Sebastia/Greek Orthodox Church of Jerusalem is a Palestinian and has been arrested dozens of times by zionists for calling them christ killers
6. Vera Baboun the christian Palestinian female mayor of Bethlehem
What makes you that impression? It is a religious conflict. And Christians don't make much fuss about it these days. It is Jews and Muslims who are main players, Jews want their temple back and Muslims want it to remain as it is.
You wrote all these Christian characters but we can't ignore that they are not just Christians but Palestinians as well. So it is also an ethnic thing, normally and expected. And yes, of course you can find all sorts of western activists among as well. But they are just activists, solo warriors of sorts. I'm sure you don't mean that Greeks are fighting some sort of a battle against Jews in Jerusalem because they don't. Officially Greek state or Orthodox church has no beef with Jews. Main thing in the end is that, not a lot of western Christians are involved in this unless you count USA as a Christian factor which is highly debatable.
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Talos wrote:Matjaz wrote:Talos wrote:Matjaz wrote:Guest 12 wrote:Meanwhile Great Moscow chess player talks with senile pants shitter tomorrow. Watch the chess player beg for legal guarantees, what a joke. He already sold out Iran and Syria to be bombed by smirking Zionists, of-course he will sell out Donbas and probably Ru.F as well, and I don’t care how many sycophants come out of the woodwork and apologize for him.
All he has managed to do is INCREASE the aggressive NATO on his border; he had the initiative and lost it. Igor Strelkov was right about him. A man worth obscene monies and fine mansions and young pretty wife is not going to shake boat too much. All his friends live in the West like London too. Too bad for Russia, to have such a sell out.
Why do you care so much if Syria or Iran is being bombed by zionists? What makes you think that Russia is supposed to be some kind of defender of Iranians and Syrians from Israel? If Iranians can't contain themselves and play along with peaceful coexistence with Israel, it is their fault. Why should Russia always solve and deter their provocations in Syria? When Iran sends their troops, their SOF's, their weapons to Syria. When Iran is trying to have secret bases and preparing the terrain for invasion on Israel, isn't that their own fault? Why should Russia defend Iranian takeover of Syria? Russia don't owe anything to Iran or Syria.
"Peaceful coextensive" with Zionists lol you are out of your mind as long as Zionists kill Palestinians and steal land there will be no peace. Iran, Syria and Lebanon don't recognize Israel and Iran has no bases in Syria stop spreading Zionist/US propaganda Iran simply has small numbers of troops in Syria to oversee flights and weapons deliveries to Hezbollah in order to prepare for future war with Israel.
Syria and Israel are still in war as far as I remember. Russia got no role in that war, right? So again, why should they get involved in decades old disputes between Israelis and their neighbors?
And yes, Iran does have significant military assets in Syria, bases included, at least they had them during active years of Syrian war. There were tens of thousands of Iranian military personnel in Syria, so all these men had to be stationed somewhere, right? If they have bases there today or not I don't know, I don't follow but don't act like there is no Iranian military assets in Syria. Israel when bombing Syria attacks those Iranian targets. And even if they hit Syrian targets, remember they are still in war with Syria, right? So what does Russia have to do with it? Why you think Russians should solve these conflicts? Iranians are very aggressive when it comes to Syria and keep moving their military there and Israel tries to destroy it. Simple as that.
Iran at most has a few hundred IRGC in Syria mostly in Abu Kamal crossing and Damascus airport areas but has tens of thousands of Iraqi, Afghan and Lebanese Shia fighters under its control in Syria. Syria will need those fighters when the time finally comes to attack Idlib and YPG controlled areas. As for Russia they can't be trusted as they are a Israeli 5th column in Syria and its best if Syria keeps its guided ballistic missile locations secret from Russia as Russia will leak it to Israel.
Look like you brain forgot 2011-2015 syria was in trouble then russia got invite it all changed, can iran be trusted after supporting albania and nato in yugoslavia and assisting the americans in the iraq invasion with intelligence on targets and iran was no fan of gaddafi go figure.
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I would even say, it's a Zionist vs. Jew, Christian, Muslim and Druze conflict. Because, in all the centuries between the destruction of the second temple by the Romans and the arrival of the Zionist terrorist groups, there were orthodox Jews living in Jerusalem all the time. They had only the normal problems with their neighbours, but with the Zionists and their regime, they had big problems. They resist a Jewish state. They speak Arabic and read Hebrew, but the Zionists speak Ivrit, this artificial new language.
So what do you think is the solution? Status quo, constant conflicts, killings, holding world hostage? Don't you think best solution would be that both sides get their own patch of land where they can live in peace? What would be wrong in that? Palestinians could get their own patch of land easily, just as Jews got it in 1948. And problem solved, unless you want to insist with the religious fanaticism and stick with some piece of land that your holy book says it is indispensable.
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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.
That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".
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Matjaz wrote:刘汉 wrote:
I would even say, it's a Zionist vs. Jew, Christian, Muslim and Druze conflict. Because, in all the centuries between the destruction of the second temple by the Romans and the arrival of the Zionist terrorist groups, there were orthodox Jews living in Jerusalem all the time. They had only the normal problems with their neighbours, but with the Zionists and their regime, they had big problems. They resist a Jewish state. They speak Arabic and read Hebrew, but the Zionists speak Ivrit, this artificial new language.
So what do you think is the solution? Status quo, constant conflicts, killings, holding world hostage? Don't you think best solution would be that both sides get their own patch of land where they can live in peace? What would be wrong in that? Palestinians could get their own patch of land easily, just as Jews got it in 1948. And problem solved, unless you want to insist with the religious fanaticism and stick with some piece of land that your holy book says it is indispensable.
1. Easy: one state solution. Plain and simple.
You always try to down play, that Palestinians are Muslims, Christians and Jews. That's how it was all the time.
2. A crime is a crime. I cannot say: You have stolen from me, but I accept it, just keep it.
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刘汉 wrote:Matjaz wrote:刘汉 wrote:
I would even say, it's a Zionist vs. Jew, Christian, Muslim and Druze conflict. Because, in all the centuries between the destruction of the second temple by the Romans and the arrival of the Zionist terrorist groups, there were orthodox Jews living in Jerusalem all the time. They had only the normal problems with their neighbours, but with the Zionists and their regime, they had big problems. They resist a Jewish state. They speak Arabic and read Hebrew, but the Zionists speak Ivrit, this artificial new language.
So what do you think is the solution? Status quo, constant conflicts, killings, holding world hostage? Don't you think best solution would be that both sides get their own patch of land where they can live in peace? What would be wrong in that? Palestinians could get their own patch of land easily, just as Jews got it in 1948. And problem solved, unless you want to insist with the religious fanaticism and stick with some piece of land that your holy book says it is indispensable.
1. Easy: one state solution. Plain and simple.
You always try to down play, that Palestinians are Muslims, Christians and Jews. That's how it was all the time.
2. A crime is a crime. I cannot say: You have stolen from me, but I accept it, just keep it.
1. Okay, but lets be honest. Palestinians are in great deal a Muslim nation and minor part that is Christian doesn't hold much power. Christian Palestinians don't have much say in decisions when it comes to Palestinian matters. I would go that far and say christian Palestinians are just useful decoration. Regarding one state solution, do you really believe that is possible?! Don't you think that difference between the two is simply too big for them to coexist? Cultural, religious these two nations style of living is just too different for them to exist in same state. Let's be realistic here.
2. Just as Muslim did a crime by conquering Jerusalem and the Jews did the same in 1948. The difference is that Jews were there first. Like I wrote before, Judaism existed 1600 years before Islam arrived on the scene.
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Matjaz wrote:刘汉 wrote:Matjaz wrote:刘汉 wrote:
As hard as Zionists try, they cannot prove, that Jews were there first. They have their own archaeologists to look for Jewish remains, but how bad, they cannot find any (Silverman & Finkelstein: The bible unearthed, they are Jews and archaeologists, their were paid by the Zionist regime to excavate in Israel and they openly admit, that they cannot find the temple of Solomon, because there is none.).
What you wrote is called "a campaign of intellectual erasure", I believe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_denial
I thought there is no dilema about whether that place is historical land of Jews. They were there for certain before any Muslim arrived.
There's been plenty of artefacts found.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Warning_inscription
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpeting_Place_inscription
These are not part of Temple but they are artefacts that prove Jews were there before Muslims.
And then there is this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_Stone
All this stuff was there centuries before Muslims came.
First there is a dilemma. wikipedia is not a good source for this, because it is under full Zionist control.
You need to make a distinction between the temple of Solomon (the "first" temple) and the temple of Herodes (the "second" temple). From the first there are zero remains, the second one is proven, but the second one was built on a place some Jews in Babylon said, that they had lived before, without any prove. And there is a long discussion in Ancient Studies, how and when the Tora was written.
No man, in this case wikipedia will do just fine, I agree wiki has a lot of misinformation going on but this information is common knowledge, there is not much room for manipulation here, all these artefacts were found on that place. This is like, wiki would explain color of rainbow and then they would write down all the colors but then someone would come and say, "hey man, it is wikipedia, all this stuff about rainbow is wrong because it is written in wikipedia and wikipedia manipulates the information." But you can't manipulate info that is a common knowledge, you understand?
So, first or second temple, main thing that I wanted to confirm is that Jews were there before Muslims, that's all. Nobody can refute this.
Jews are living everywhere. So what shall this prove?
I just can repeat, there is no prove for the Solomonic temple in Jerusalem. This is proven by archaeologists. I have given you good literature. If you don't believe it, it is your problem. There was Jewish state between 300 BC and 70 AD with the second temple. This temple was destroyed by the Romans. When the Muslims conquered Jerusalem many Jews returned, because they were allowed to live there again. So why to punish the modern Palestinians, who had no part in the destruction of Jerusalem?
That Zionists invent the word "temple denial" is no surprise, that wikipedia has an article about it, is no surprise.
Yes, I deny, based on archaeological research, that there was a "Salomonic temple" in the town, that is currently called Jerusalem.
You should study the vast literature about, how the Tora was written. It is common knowledge, that during the Babylonian exile, several texts (the "Yahwist", the "Elohist") were combined and rewritten to develop the monotheistic idea. From Babylon they spread to different places (in the Nile delta in Egypt the temple of "Onias", in Northern Syria, in Yemen etc.) to build Jewish temples (these temples are excavated, there are acknowledged excavation reports about them). The reason was, they simply had no idea, where the "Jerusalem" of the scripture was.
Next twist in your thinking: These Jews, who did this, did this with a similar mindset as the modern Zionists. To do this they corrupted the texts, they combined to the Tora. The Arabic term for this corruption of the text is tahrif. "Muslims" are just the people, who follow the "uncorrupted" version. That is, why in the Quran, there are all patriarchs: Abraham, etc. down to Moses, even Jesus. All of them are good Muslims. So who was earlier?
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2. Just as Muslim did a crime by conquering Jerusalem and the Jews did the same in 1948. The difference is that Jews were there first. Like I wrote before, Judaism existed 1600 years before Islam arrived on the scene.
then show as a contract with god.
The Ark of the Covenant (Hebrew: אֲרוֹן הַבְּרִית ʾărōn habbrīṯ; Koinē Greek: Κιβωτὸς τῆς Διαθήκης, romanized: Kibōtòs tês Diathḗkēs, Ge'ez: ታቦት tābōt, also known as the Ark of the Testimony, or the Ark of God),[1][2] is the most sacred relic of the Israelites. It consisted of a pure gold-covered wooden chest with an elaborate lid called the Mercy seat. The Ark is described in the Book of Exodus as containing the two stone tablets of the Ten Commandments. According to New Testament Book of Hebrews, it also contained Aaron's rod and a pot of manna. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant
If there is no contract with god then there is no proof that it is a Jewish land.
show us a contract. show us a proof that god gave that land to Jews.
Or do you really think we will believe Jews on their word ?
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Russia delivers new batch of BTR-82A combat vehicles to Belarus
— ASB News / MILITARY (@ASBMilitary) December 9, 2021
In addition to the BTR-82A armored personnel carriers, BTR-80K command vehicles and BMM armored medical vehicles arrived for the 6th mechanized brigade, the Belarusian Defense Ministry informed pic.twitter.com/Pzzm17AtrU
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MORE - WHO's Mike Ryan claims #Omicron is a "new dimension" and requires a "new level" of response. pic.twitter.com/UY2bvFDm2q
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 8, 2021
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GATES cucked Zimbabwe officials now put the SCREWS to their own population
Zimbabwe has announced plans (driven by the Omicron variant)
to prohibit unvaccinated people from using public transport.
vaccination stations will set up at the main intra-city and inter-city bus terminals:
those who have not been vaccinated can receive vaccine shots voluntarily before boarding
those who do not have a valid vaccination card will eventually be denied access to public transportation.
also:
►curfew has been extended to begin at 9 p.m. until 6 a.m.
►Alcohol is not permitted in bottle stores
►only vaccinated customers are permitted in nightclubs and bars
►returning residents and visitors undergo PCR testing
►returning residents and visitors quarantine at their own expense
https://insiderpaper.com/zimbabwe-to-ban-unvaccinated-from-using-public-transport/
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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@BenjaminNorton (December 8, 2021)
Billionaire oligarch Elon Musk's extremely shady companies received $5 billion in US government subsidies as of 2015 (the number has only increased since then)
It's likely that those companies could have collapsed were it not for constant gov't subsidies
latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html
twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1468432224416641026
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US DEFENCE SECRETARY: IF CURRENT POLICY ON IRAN FAILS, BIDEN HAS MADE CLEAR WE ARE PREPARED TO TURN TO OTHER OPTIONS.
— Breaking.Live (@FinancialJuice) December 9, 2021
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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BREAKING: Putin says what Ukraine is doing in Donbass resembles a genocide
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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@RealAlexRubi (December 9, 2021)
.@SecBlinken announced today new US government funding for supposed "independent media" & a new USAID project.
They'll also support a fund for "reporters & news organizations that are targeted with litigation."
Guessing Julian Assange & Wikileaks won't be seeing any of that money
twitter.com/RealAlexRubi/status/1468802658408579072
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@AFP (December 9, 2021)
#UPDATE Two major Chinese property firms have defaulted on $1.6 billion worth of bonds to overseas creditors,
Fitch Ratings agency said Thursday, as contagion spreads within the country's debt-ridden real estate sector
twitter.com/AFP/status/1468887646684516356
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France will not join boycott of Beijing Winter Olympics: minister
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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ASB News / MILITARYPart
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13:45 local time, FSB accompanying coast guard ship warned the Ukrainian vessel of the need to comply with Russian legislation (in terms of filing the necessary applications for passage through the Kerch Strait). An answer was received that it did not plan to pass through
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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@_whitneywebb (December 9, 2021)
The Farmer sisters have fought for DECADES not just against Epstein & Co but MSM who have tried to silence them.
FYI, this interview was originally intended to not be released in full,
but I did so with Maria's permission as her story was heavily censored by MSM reporters.
twitter.com/_whitneywebb/status/1468957351952584705
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@RT_com (December 8, 2021)
British TV show deletes poll
after 89% oppose mandatory vaccination
twitter.com/RT_com/status/1468404357033086987
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