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Post by Böhse Tante Sat May 13, 2023 10:09 pm

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John F․ Kennedy and the little-known consequences of the Bay of Pigs defeat
#The Critical Diary

The defeat of the CIA mercenary force in the Bay of Pigs was a humiliation for the USA, which continues to this day․ For the Kennedy brothers, it even amounted to a personal injury of honor, which they did not want to accept․ Hardly known today, after the defeat, John and Robert Kennedy did everything to ensure that a new invasion army under the direct leadership of the CIA․․․

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According to Robert, it was General Edward "Ed" Lansdale who led the preparations for the invasion of Cuba: "An old specialist in secret actions, always resourceful and imaginative," Colby recalls. When he entered the army, he left the profession of a publicist to become an expert in psychological warfare. Within the framework of this "specialty", he was one of the first to use the popular faith, especially the religious one, to influence the population through intimidation. He practiced and developed this weapon of war in Indochina.
... "

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" the popular faith, especially the religious one, for influencing the population through intimidation"

That is why I reject the propaganda of the religionists, especially the evangelical, Zionist religionists.

So there was no opposition of the Kennedys against the CIA, they were just not successful enough.

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PS, so the depiction of the Cuban missile crisis is a lie from cover to cover. Any similarities with the situation in Ukraine are probably hallucinations. 

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The "Cuban missile crisis"

Unexpectedly, a dramatic situation brought the goal of JM/WAVE to a standstill: the so-called "missile crisis". On October 14, 1962, an American U-2 spy plane confirmed what the CIA had told President Kennedy: in the Cuban province of Pinar del Río, the Soviets installed ramps that could be used to launch missiles.

The leaders of the Cuban Revolution knew that the presence of these weapons would be able to stop Kennedy's intentions, which consisted in attacking Cuba again, but now with the full participation of his armed forces.
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Sat May 13, 2023 10:18 pm

khnum wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:-- GEROMAN -- time will tell - 👀 --
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RF drones on the way - plus 7 heavy bombers -  Russian air force angry - hot night ahead -

Some say Russia is grinding down Ukraine slowly over time others say the mission is not going anywhere near as well as they had hoped whatever the truth it has been a year and Ukraine is now getting top shelf SAM and cruise missile capabilities I wish these pilots well but its getting pretty bloody dangerous there.

All those fancy weapon systems are worthless without manpower. From every point of view Kiev troops are outnumbered. There is not enough western "advisors", "contractors" and other guns for hire to constantly replace huge Kiev losses. Most of capable jihadists was already eliminated in Syria - very smart move. Globalist forces can't supply Kiev with trained manpower openly. Russian allies, on other hand, have no reason to hide their involvement. If needed then African, DPRK or Venezuelan volunteers will be seen. Also, Belarusian card was not played yet. There are many possibilities and we all know that the whole fucking NATO was defeated by horseback riders from Afghani caves...

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Arrivals...

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by khnum Sat May 13, 2023 10:27 pm

KneelB4Zod! wrote:
khnum wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:-- GEROMAN -- time will tell - 👀 --
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RF drones on the way - plus 7 heavy bombers -  Russian air force angry - hot night ahead -

Some say Russia is grinding down Ukraine slowly over time others say the mission is not going anywhere near as well as they had hoped whatever the truth it has been a year and Ukraine is now getting top shelf SAM and cruise missile capabilities I wish these pilots well but its getting pretty bloody dangerous there.

All those fancy weapon systems are worthless without manpower. From every point of view Kiev troops are outnumbered. There is not enough western "advisors", "contractors" and other guns for hire to constantly replace huge Kiev losses. Most of capable jihadists was already eliminated in Syria - very smart move. Globalist forces can't supply Kiev with trained manpower openly. Russian allies, on other hand, have no reason to hide their involvement. If needed then African, DPRK or Venezuelan volunteers will be seen. Also, Belarusian card was not played yet. There are many possibilities and we all know that the whole fucking NATO was defeated by horseback riders from Afghani caves...

I agree but NATO and the military industrial complex are not about winning wars they are about dragging them out as long as possible to make as much money as they can from them and that is why Putin should pull his finger out he is playing their game....there is no such thing as something for nothing Ukraine is on the hook for God only knows what in return.


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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Sat May 13, 2023 10:38 pm

khnum wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
khnum wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:-- GEROMAN -- time will tell - 👀 --
@GeromanAT
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RF drones on the way - plus 7 heavy bombers -  Russian air force angry - hot night ahead -

Some say Russia is grinding down Ukraine slowly over time others say the mission is not going anywhere near as well as they had hoped whatever the truth it has been a year and Ukraine is now getting top shelf SAM and cruise missile capabilities I wish these pilots well but its getting pretty bloody dangerous there.

All those fancy weapon systems are worthless without manpower. From every point of view Kiev troops are outnumbered. There is not enough western "advisors", "contractors" and other guns for hire to constantly replace huge Kiev losses. Most of capable jihadists was already eliminated in Syria - very smart move. Globalist forces can't supply Kiev with trained manpower openly. Russian allies, on other hand, have no reason to hide their involvement. If needed then African, DPRK or Venezuelan volunteers will be seen. Also, Belarusian card was not played yet. There are many possibilities and we all know that the whole fucking NATO was defeated by horseback riders from Afghani caves...

I agree but NATO and the military industrial complex are not about winning wars they are about dragging them out as long as possible to make as much money as they can from them as they can and that is why Putin should pull his finger out he is playing their game....there is no such thing as something for nothing Ukraine is on the hook for God only knows what in return.

That's not possible. Russia won't give up Crimea. And that was one of the ultimate globalist goals, to take over this strategically and historically important peninsula.

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by Mr Badger Sat May 13, 2023 10:41 pm

Explosion in Lvov

Local publics report the arrival of missiles from the Black Sea.


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Post by Abacus Sat May 13, 2023 10:43 pm

Alan MacLeod
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Since Elon has now bought this website, I think it is important to highlight
how he is not some radical outsider, but a crucial part of the US surveillance and national security states.

From almost day one of SpaceX's history, Musk has been a protégé of the CIA, and in particular, Mike Griffin.
Griffin mentored him, and when SpaceX was going broke, he argued for him at the CIA and NASA,
saying he was the new “Henry Ford” of the rocket industry.

Griffin was president of In-Q-Tel, the CIA's venture capitalist arm.
In-Q-Tel supports fledgling businesses that the agency thinks could work with them.
Griffin also accompanied Musk to Russia 🇷🇺 in 2002 where the pair tried to buy Russian intercontinental ballistic missiles.

SpaceX’s business model is to send spy/comms satellites into space.
Its primary customers are the CIA, NSA, NRO and Air Force.
Thus, Musk provides a crucial service to the national security state,
helping them build the global surveillance network Snowden et al. warned us about.

Earlier this year, Musk worked with the US govt to send Starlink satellites to Ukraine,
keeping its army online and allowing them to precisely target Russian forces.
One Ukrainian commander said that the only way he can fire his weapons now is through Starlink thermal imaging.

So yes, for all his talk, Musk is ultimately a key cog in the apparatus of the national security state.
Full article here: https://www.mintpressnews.com/elon-musk-not-renegade-outsider-cia-pentagon-contractor/280972/

https://nitter.net/AlanRMacLeod/status/1586063598991745025
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Local publics report the arrival of missiles from the Black Sea.

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by khnum Sat May 13, 2023 10:48 pm

KneelB4Zod! wrote:
khnum wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
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KneelB4Zod! wrote:-- GEROMAN -- time will tell - 👀 --
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RF drones on the way - plus 7 heavy bombers -  Russian air force angry - hot night ahead -

Some say Russia is grinding down Ukraine slowly over time others say the mission is not going anywhere near as well as they had hoped whatever the truth it has been a year and Ukraine is now getting top shelf SAM and cruise missile capabilities I wish these pilots well but its getting pretty bloody dangerous there.

All those fancy weapon systems are worthless without manpower. From every point of view Kiev troops are outnumbered. There is not enough western "advisors", "contractors" and other guns for hire to constantly replace huge Kiev losses. Most of capable jihadists was already eliminated in Syria - very smart move. Globalist forces can't supply Kiev with trained manpower openly. Russian allies, on other hand, have no reason to hide their involvement. If needed then African, DPRK or Venezuelan volunteers will be seen. Also, Belarusian card was not played yet. There are many possibilities and we all know that the whole fucking NATO was defeated by horseback riders from Afghani caves...

I agree but NATO and the military industrial complex are not about winning wars they are about dragging them out as long as possible to make as much money as they can from them as they can and that is why Putin should pull his finger out he is playing their game....there is no such thing as something for nothing Ukraine is on the hook for God only knows what in return.

That's not possible. Russia won't give up Crimea. And that was one of the ultimate globalist goals, to take over this strategically and historically important peninsula.

Well its not panic stations yet the City of London and its minions have been trying to get rid of Russia since the 1807-1812 Anglo Russian war I dont claim to be any military expert but this war takes the cake for weirdness in all my 57 years

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They all look like govt shills lol.

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Post by khnum Sat May 13, 2023 11:30 pm

KneelB4Zod! wrote:

They all look like govt shills lol.

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It appears these morons are even wearing their FBI trousers


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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Post by anon Sun May 14, 2023 2:27 am

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KneelB4Zod! wrote:-- GEROMAN -- time will tell - 👀 --
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RF drones on the way - plus 7 heavy bombers -  Russian air force angry - hot night ahead -

Some say Russia is grinding down Ukraine slowly over time others say the mission is not going anywhere near as well as they had hoped whatever the truth it has been a year and Ukraine is now getting top shelf SAM and cruise missile capabilities I wish these pilots well but its getting pretty bloody dangerous there.

The concerning part is that after top shelf SAM and cruise missile capabilities, the next step is airplanes. Poland already provided MIG-29 airplanes that are up to NATO standard and the next step is F-16 or something out of the NATO inventory.

The concerning part is the next step after that. NATO troops officially on the ground. And (IMHO) we are 2 steps from NATO troops on the ground. There are (of course) NATO troops on the ground but unofficially. But when NATO is officially in Ukraine, things will change drastically. All NATO countries then become military targets. Please take into account that right now, Russian territory is bombarded daily (including from NATO weapons). In that respect, this change will not affect Russia (they are already targeted) but only NATO countries. We are 2 steps from that. Maybe months ? Or even less.

For Russian perspective, Russia is already at war with NATO. Not officially declared but in reality.
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It is just a question of decision when will Russia decide to hit storage areas and ammo depots in (let us say) Poland... Romania... Hungary... Germany... At this moment it starts to be more opportune to hit these countries than to pretend these countries are not engaged in conflict. Also, all of these countries are less protected than airspace in Ukraine. Mostly because most of the air defense systems are shipped to Ukraine. These countries can not defend themselves from cruise missiles. And Russia has cruise missiles (non-nuclear kind) that can hit targets in these countries.

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Post by khnum Sun May 14, 2023 2:43 am

anon wrote:
khnum wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:-- GEROMAN -- time will tell - 👀 --
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RF drones on the way - plus 7 heavy bombers -  Russian air force angry - hot night ahead -

Some say Russia is grinding down Ukraine slowly over time others say the mission is not going anywhere near as well as they had hoped whatever the truth it has been a year and Ukraine is now getting top shelf SAM and cruise missile capabilities I wish these pilots well but its getting pretty bloody dangerous there.

The concerning part is that after top shelf SAM and cruise missile capabilities, the next step is airplanes. Poland already provided MIG-29 airplanes that are up to NATO standard and the next step is F-16 or something out of the NATO inventory.

The concerning part is the next step after that. NATO troops officially on the ground. And (IMHO) we are 2 steps from NATO troops on the ground. There are (of course) NATO troops on the ground but unofficially. But when NATO is officially in Ukraine, things will change drastically. All NATO countries then become military targets. Please take into account that right now, Russian territory is bombarded daily (including from NATO weapons). In that respect, this change will not affect Russia (they are already targeted) but only NATO countries. We are 2 steps from that. Maybe months ? Or even less.

For Russian perspective, Russia is already at war with NATO. Not officially declared but in reality.
#120 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe - Page 29 Fvxycs10

It is just a question of decision when will Russia decide to hit storage areas and ammo depots in (let us say) Poland... Romania... Hungary... Germany... At this moment it starts to be more opportune to hit these countries than to pretend these countries are not engaged in conflict. Also, all of these countries are less protected than airspace in Ukraine. Mostly because most of the air defense systems are shipped to Ukraine. These countries can not defend themselves from cruse missiles. And Russia has cruise missiles (non-nuclear kind) that can hit targets in these countries.

Eventually Nato will probably get involved but the advisors for now are probably Academy/Xe employees for plausible deniability whom if killed might get their name put up on a wall in Langley Virginia but certainly no DOD recognition,or if so it will be called a 'training accident' or such

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Post by KneelB4Zod! Sun May 14, 2023 2:49 am

anon wrote:
khnum wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:-- GEROMAN -- time will tell - 👀 --
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RF drones on the way - plus 7 heavy bombers -  Russian air force angry - hot night ahead -

Some say Russia is grinding down Ukraine slowly over time others say the mission is not going anywhere near as well as they had hoped whatever the truth it has been a year and Ukraine is now getting top shelf SAM and cruise missile capabilities I wish these pilots well but its getting pretty bloody dangerous there.

The concerning part is that after top shelf SAM and cruise missile capabilities, the next step is airplanes. Poland already provided MIG-29 airplanes that are up to NATO standard and the next step is F-16 or something out of the NATO inventory.

The concerning part is the next step after that. NATO troops officially on the ground. And (IMHO) we are 2 steps from NATO troops on the ground. There are (of course) NATO troops on the ground but unofficially. But when NATO is officially in Ukraine, things will change drastically. All NATO countries then become military targets. Please take into account that right now, Russian territory is bombarded daily (including from NATO weapons). In that respect, this change will not affect Russia (they are already targeted) but only NATO countries. We are 2 steps from that. Maybe months ? Or even less.

For Russian perspective, Russia is already at war with NATO. Not officially declared but in reality.
#120 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe - Page 29 Fvxycs10

It is just a question of decision when will Russia decide to hit storage areas and ammo depots in (let us say) Poland... Romania... Hungary... Germany... At this moment it starts to be more opportune to hit these countries than to pretend these countries are not engaged in conflict. Also, all of these countries are less protected than airspace in Ukraine. Mostly because most of the air defense systems are shipped to Ukraine. These countries can not defend themselves from cruise missiles. And Russia has cruise missiles (non-nuclear kind) that can hit targets in these countries.

I strongly doubt NATO will act openly. They are cowards, manipulators, bullies. The attack in swarm and only if they think the opp force is weak. But mostly, they push others to fight for them. They supported Iraq to fight their war against Iran, they used religious radicals to fight their war against Assad and Gadafi. And now they use Ukrainians to fight their war against Russia. They will fail. And, hopefully, it gonna be last nail in their coffin.

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by anon Sun May 14, 2023 3:36 am

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Eventually Nato will probably get involved but the advisors for now are probably Academy/Xe employees for plausible deniability whom if killed might get their name put up on a wall in Langley Virginia but certainly no DOD recognition,or if so it will be called a 'training accident' or such

There are new cemeteries in Poland and multiple confirmed "volunteers" (ex-Us military) already dead. NATO personal is in Ukraine from the beginning (on vacation).
But...after airplanes, NATO is entering. There are no other options.

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I strongly doubt NATO will act openly. They are cowards, manipulators, bullies. The attack in swarm and only if they think the opp force is weak. But mostly, they push others to fight for them. They supported Iraq to fight their war against Iran, they used religious radicals to fight their war against Assad and Gadafi. And now they use Ukrainians to fight their war against Russia. They will fail. And, hopefully, it gonna be last nail in their coffin.

These are also true. But I do not think NATO will accept defeat. And you should also consider that in some scenarios, it is more advantageous for Russians to attack first. Russians attacked Ukraine first, before their offensive on new Russia. It is not like Russia is not already in war with NATO. There are multiple attacks on Russian territory. Not just Russian territory of new Russia but also on Russian Federation.

If Russia attacks NATO countries...what can they lose ? Russia will give NATO casus belli ? Russia is already in war with NATO.  Kremlin was hit, UK delivered storm shadow missiles... NATO is crossing Russia's red lines and getting itself more and more into conflict. We are not talking here about delivery of just weapons. We are talking about breaking Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missile_Technology_Control_Regime ,  depleted uranium projectiles...these are serious things. Not some bullets and artillery shells.

Poland and Slovakia become first NATO countries sending MiG-29 jets to Ukraine
By Euronews with AFP • Updated: 22/03/2023
Warsaw announced that four of the Soviet-era warplanes would be sent initially, while Bratislava will provide 13 jets. Poland and Slovakia are the first NATO countries to say they'll send fighter jets to Ukraine. Poland will deliver a first batch of four MiG-29 fighter-bombers, Polish President Andrzej Duda announced Thursday. Meanwhile, Slovakia’s government has approved a plan to give Ukraine its fleet of 13 Soviet-era MiG-29s. Prime Minister Eduard Heger announced the unanimous decision of his government on Friday. Slovakia grounded its fleet last year and no longer uses the jets. Kyiv has repeatedly asked its Western allies to send it modern fighter-bombers, hoping to get American F-16s. https://archive.ph/wip/KYAlK

These are airplanes. For now Soviet airplanes but when these get shot down there are going to provide something from NATO inventory. And then troops on the ground.


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Post by Mr Badger Sun May 14, 2023 3:47 am

⚡ It is reported that the launched missiles are in the airspace of Ukraine, some of them are moving towards the Cherkasy region and the city of Bila Tserkva. All over Ukraine air raid alert.


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Post by Mr Badger Sun May 14, 2023 5:04 am

Update on latest air alert:

Yuri Podolyaka:

"We will probably never know the full results of the missile strike, but the end of the air raid in Ukraine was announced today only after 5 am, and all night the authorities of the Ternopil region, for example, were desperately "reminding" that the local population should not publish the results of the "successful work of the Ukrainian air defense ". And what the country's population needs to know, it will allegedly tell later.

meanwhile, local publics reported at night that it banged somewhere quite powerfully. And more than once. Explosions were also heard in many regions of Western Ukraine, Kyiv and the territories adjacent to the front."

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Post by Talos Sun May 14, 2023 8:03 am

Syria’s main insurgent group seeks to move away from al-Qaida past, get off Western terrorism lists

https://apnews.com/article/syria-idlib-turkey-algolani-hayat-tahrir-alsham-54a2af9fe90f10d68795e329a65c9b4d

Lol even AP news now admitting the biggest rebel group is Al Nusra/Al Qeada
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Post by Talos Sun May 14, 2023 12:00 pm

Israel used 10 david sling missiles 2 of with failed to intercept target that resulted in 1 Israeli killed and 10 wounded.

The fact that Israel used a david sling missile which cost 2 million each and are for ballistic missiles not rockets shows desperation if Hamas joined the attack I think Israel air defences would have been overwhelmed as the iron dome suffered a lot of problems. I'm almost certain hezbollah would overwhelm the iron dome within a day
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Post by Abacus Sun May 14, 2023 12:42 pm

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...Palantir demos how a military might use AIP to fight a war.
In the video, the operator uses a ChatGPT-style chatbot
to order drone reconnaissance, generate several plans of attack,
and organize the jamming of enemy communications...

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjvb4x/palantir-demos-ai-to-fight-wars-but-says-it-will-be-totally-ethical-dont-worry-about-it




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