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As for ideology, we can (in principle) agree. But he is not directly responsible. The person or persons who were giving orders and executing them are responsible.KneelB4Zod! wrote:anon wrote:KneelB4Zod! wrote:anon wrote:Talos wrote:Why does Poland support ukraine so much? Don't they know Ukrainians led by bandera killed 130,000 poles in Volhynia? I know the Soviets killed huge numbers of poles aswell and helped nazis invade Poland at start of WW2 but why not be natural as both sides are historic enemies?
Bandera had nothing to do with it. He was in a German death camp at the time.
In January 1942, Bandera was transferred to Sachsenhausen concentration camp's special prison cell building (Zellenbau) for high-profile political prisoners such as Horia Sima, the chancellor of Austria, Kurt von Schuschnigg or Stefan Grot-Rowecki[59][10]: 212 and was kept in special, comparatively comfortable detention.[29][1]: 538 [60] In April 1944, Bandera and his deputy Yaroslav Stetsko were approached by a Reich Security Main Office official to discuss plans for diversions and sabotage against the Soviet Army.[61] In September 1944,[62] Bandera was released by the German authorities and allowed to return to Ukraine in the hope that his partisans would unite with OUN-M and harass the Soviet troops, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera
Sachsenhausen was a labor camp, outfitted with several subcamps, a gas chamber, and a medical experimentation area. Prisoners were treated inhumanely, fed inadequately, and killed openly.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sachsenhausen_concentration_camp
Putin is blaming a person who was in a concentration camp at the time. And this is not even questionable. It is a known fact that everybody agree on. On 5 July 1941 Bandera was placed under house arrest. He was released at the end of the war from concetration camp. Most of the war he was either under house arrest or in the death camp.
And Poland supports Ukraine because poles know that Ukrainians and Russians and same people. And if they kill themselves, it is good for Poland ruling elite. Also, money from US of A.
Poles also killed Ukrainians at Volhynia
The massacres led to a conflict between the Polish resistance and the Ukrainian insurgency in the German-occupied territories, with the Polish underground responding to the Ukrainian attacks with reprisal massacres of Ukrainian civil population on a much smaller scale.[23][24]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia
it is up to discussion how many poles are killed and how many Ukrainians are killed. It heavily depends on which side is presenting the story. And Soviet propaganda had a reason to present a story in a negative light for Bandera. Problem is, Bandera was in a German concentration camp at the time. And Bandera was in the same concentration camp as Stalin son.
Just to be clear, this is facts. Not propaganda...just facts that can be checked from historic documents.
Bandera was detained only because he intended to create independent Ukraine. Prior that he was useful idiot for nazis, hise UPA/OUN is behind hundreds of thousand of killed Poles, Jews and Czechs and Slovaks as well. Not only that, Banderowtsi attacked Czechoslovakia even after WWII in naive attempts to reach Western Germany in hope that WWII will continue.
https://www.vhu.cz/vpad-banderovcu-na-uzemi-ceskoslovenska-v-letech-1945-1947/
Of course, Bandera was working with Germans "nazis". it is not even worth debate. it is a fact.No. while Bandera was not only nazi collaborator he volontered to work with nazis. This is a fact, and I am not arguing anything different.KneelB4Zod! wrote:
Rightfully Putin blames Bandera, the war criminal and nazi collaborator.
But:
Bandera was at the time in german concentration camp. And that is also a fact. He can not be held accountable for something that was done while he was in prison (concentration camp). With Bandera in concentration camp that is enough of a proof that he could not have committed a crime, and he could not have done it, especially the fact that he was in another place at the time it happened.
I am not going into UPA/OUN, neither who did what in that time in Ukraine and who is responsible. I am stating that Putin is slandering Bandera because Bandera cannot be guilty of a crime because he was somewhere else when the crime was committed.I agree about Wikipedia, but this is all known facts that were never disputed. This is the reason why I have used Wiki. Neither side is disputing he was at the time in a concentration camp. This is false and defamatory statements about someone in order to damage their reputation; slander.KneelB4Zod! wrote:
Also, Wikipedia is definitely not good source for facts. You should know there are whole brigades redacting the page around the clock. And that's the fact...
calumny = the act of uttering false charges or misrepresentations maliciously calculated to harm another's reputation
alibi = proof that someone who is thought to have committed a crime could not have done it, especially the fact or statement that they were in another place at the time it happened:
Facts don't stand alone. You wrote Putin is balming wrong guy bcs Bandera was in German death camp. It's fact, indeed. But it doesn't support your claim at all. There's context, there is timeline that led to his detention. Timeline full of war crimes, genocides and massacress. It really doesn't matter if he was imprisoned when some specific massecre occured. It was commited by his loyal followers, worshippers. He forged them and they were his army. There's no need to whitewash him.
He is ultimately responsible for what his followers commited even if he was imprisoned because it was him who mostly created this ideology and put together gangs of armed scumbags. So yes, he beras responsibility in the same way as Jabotinsky berars responsibility for reccent crimes of his worshippers regardless the fact he's dead and gone for decades. At least in my playbook.
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@BenjaminNorton (June 21, 2023)
The US rolled out the red carpet for India's Prime Minister Modi,
of the far-right Hindu-nationalist party BJP, as he visits Washington today.
The US is trying to divide the BRICS and recruit India for its new cold war on China
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-65947363
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In a bad sign for Asian integration, India was supposed to host a summit
of the Shanghai Cooperation Org in New Delhi in July,
but instead it surprised everyone announcing it will only be virtual
China, Russia, Pakistan and now Iran are fellow SCO members
https://www.livemint.com/news/india/india-to-host-sco-summit-in-virtual-format-on-4-july-11685458733136.html
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@GarlandNixon (June 21, 2023)
BIDEN TURNING TAIWAN INTO A UKRAINE STYLE BATTLEFIELD.
HIS PLAN WILL RESULT IN THE TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF TAIWAN.
Taiwanese experts to join US-Japanese war games simulating cross-strait clash
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via @scmpnews
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@wyattreed13 (June 21, 2023)
Average pro-Ukraine OSINT page
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@KitKlarenberg (June 19, 2023)
My latest: Declassified files expose secret British role in #NATO’s terror armies
#OperationGladio #MI6 #CIA #BritishIntelligence #P2
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/06/19/files-british-natos-secret-terror-armies/
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@Safarnejad_IR (June 20, 2023)
Albanian Police raids MEK terror group camp
MEK says 1000+ officers raided the camp
which resulted in death of 1 terrorist & injury of several.
Police states operation was done according to a ruling
of the Special Court against Corruption & Organized Crime.
https://nitter.net/Safarnejad_IR/status/1671198964362752020
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@ma_khodabandeh (June 20, 2023)
Dr. Olsi Yeseji @OlsiJ: MEK and @Maryam_Rajavi have lost their mind.
Attacking #Albania, which hosted them. Police have released the following video
which shows MEK resisted police search and how they burned their secret documents and clashed with police
https://piped.video/yxG9K7Xv3_s
https://nitter.net/ma_khodabandeh/status/1671249405834321920
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The Reset: When Will Globalists Attempt To Introduce Their Digital Currency System?
...a future world in which everything we now know about functioning and surviving within the economy is completely upended
The Reset: When Will Globalists Attempt To Introduce Their Digital Currency System?
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The US cannot produce as much munitions as Russia, even though the USA spends more than $800 billion a year on defense, 10 times more than Russia
Shai Assad, a former Defence Department contract negotiator, said the Pentagon overpays for almost everything from missiles and aircraft to spare parts. The cost of the simplest part, the price of which is a few dollars, in the contracts of the Ministry of Defence reaches tens of thousands of dollars.
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Russian officials confirmed a few hours ago the exclusive publication of WarNews247 with the axes of attack of the Ukrainian armed forces with the final goal of the cities of Kherson and Crimea.
The Russians stress that the Ukrainian forces will attempt to cross the left bank of the Dnieper, noting that "satellite images show that there is a very narrow place which in 3-4 days will be suitable for crossing".
The place the Russians are talking about is an old road from Nikopol to Energodar . Through this the Ukrainians will try to transfer forces to the left bank of the Dnieper in the section where Kherson joins Zaporizhia.
https://warnews247.gr/apostoli-aftoktonias-ton-oukranon-rosos-axiomatouchos-to-edafos-stegnose-oi-oukranoi-tha-diavoun-ton-dneipero-apo-tin-nikopoli-pliris-epivevaiosi-warnews247/
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Russian sources claim German-supplied MARS-II MLRS was destroyed/damaged in Orikhiv, Zaporizhzhia. pic.twitter.com/WNHV73H477
— Clash Report (@clashreport) June 22, 2023
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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The Greater Eurasia project: Building bridges and breaking barriers
— The Cradle (@TheCradleMedia) June 22, 2023
If you're counting on Asia's many new power centers to compete and clash – don't.
By @RealPepeEscobarhttps://t.co/SO1WlP6u3y
https://thecradle.co/article-view/26288/the-greater-eurasia-project-building-bridges-to-bury-atlanticism
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Russian Ambassador to the UK fends off a Sky News Presstitute pic.twitter.com/scaUnSNWP1
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an uninformed and belligerent sky news 'expert' attempts rebuttals...
and fails continuously.
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Watch the reaction from the Belgian parliament when a Belgian MP deigned to ask the simple question: "Who bombed Nord Stream 1 and NordStream 2?"
— COMBATE | (@upholdreality) June 22, 2023
The degree of brainwashing and mass delusion is scary!pic.twitter.com/HL0cA9DO5S
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#Opinion by Maria Zakharova
— MFA Russia (@mfa_russia) June 22, 2023
No one has the right to have such heroes [as Bandera, Shukhevich, Melnik]. These were not heroes, but demons, and this was not an identity, but a disgrace for the people of Ukraine.
This is an act of glorifying Nazism.
https://t.co/00nsSaOGSn pic.twitter.com/utJEM7oQD5
Russia responds to Israeli envoy defending Nazis in Ukraine
— RT (@RT_com) June 22, 2023
No country has the right to such “heroes,” Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Zakharova has saidhttps://t.co/o4pbIfR8Oo pic.twitter.com/iMqb163Ga2
On this day 82 years ago, Hitler invaded Russia.
— S.L. Kanthan (@Kanthan2030) June 22, 2023
More than 25 million Russians died fighting and defeating the Nazis in WW2.
In Russia, today is solemnly known as the Day of Remembrance and Sorrow.
Putin laying a wreath.
Mad people of Europe have forgotten their history… pic.twitter.com/LuhJAH4Ng2
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Zambeezi wrote:#Opinion by Maria Zakharova
— MFA Russia (@mfa_russia) June 22, 2023
No one has the right to have such heroes [as Bandera, Shukhevich, Melnik]. These were not heroes, but demons, and this was not an identity, but a disgrace for the people of Ukraine.
This is an act of glorifying Nazism.
https://t.co/00nsSaOGSn pic.twitter.com/utJEM7oQD5Russia responds to Israeli envoy defending Nazis in Ukraine
— RT (@RT_com) June 22, 2023
No country has the right to such “heroes,” Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Zakharova has saidhttps://t.co/o4pbIfR8Oo pic.twitter.com/iMqb163Ga2On this day 82 years ago, Hitler invaded Russia.
— S.L. Kanthan (@Kanthan2030) June 22, 2023
More than 25 million Russians died fighting and defeating the Nazis in WW2.
In Russia, today is solemnly known as the Day of Remembrance and Sorrow.
Putin laying a wreath.
Mad people of Europe have forgotten their history… pic.twitter.com/LuhJAH4Ng2
https://twitter.com/Marialinden301/status/1671926930579374191
https://twitter.com/daveyturn61/status/1671939726427791364
General mobilization announced in Kiev.
In the Obolonsky district of Kiev, the mobilization of citizens liable for military service was announced - even those who did not receive a summons should appear at the local military registration and enlistment office. In the event that the people of Kiev, falling under the mobilization, do not comply with this requirement, they fall under criminal liability.
general mobilization was also announced in the Ivano-Frankivsk region.
To the last Ukrainian.https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1671926337307840513
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Burisma Energy's chief accountant, who offered the U.S. evidence of the Biden family's fraud, is found dead. She was willing to provide authorities with Joe and Hunter Biden's fraudulent schemes, but didn't have time to testify. A few days before the woman's death, former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani assured that the U.S. Justice Department knew there was a life-threatening situation for her.
+ the recently sunk bathyscaphe.
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The US government knew on Sunday that the Titan mini-sub had imploded in the ocean depths near the Titanic, the Wall Street Journal reported this evening. Because the navy heard the sound of it, you see. Yet they chose not to tell anyone for days, letting the media speculate about the fate of the people already long dead (and much of the populace ghoulishly cheer it). Why?
Well, ask yourself, what else has happened this week? And if you catch yourself not knowing, that's the point. You've been played. It was all a cynical ploy to distract from things that should have been noticed — proof positive of Hunter Biden's corruption, the total failure of the Ukrainian "counteroffensive" with Western Wunderwaffe, or God knows what else.
"To do this for political means is beyond reason or humanity," is how one of the people I follow on Twitter put it, and I couldn't agree more.
https://t.me/thenebulator/1219
Because you really need more cynicism and evil tonight, here's a gut-wrenching op-ed by Scott Ritter on how NATO's trainers sent Ukraine's 47th Brigade to its death by most likely "gaming" the combat simulation to show their impossible mission as likely successful. And Ritter should know — he spends the second half of the article describing how he successfully worked through the simulations during the 1991 attack on Iraq.
https://www.rt.com/russia/578411-nato-ukraine-counteroffensive-training/
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United States Senators Lindsay Graham (R-SC) and Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) have introduced a Resolution in the Senate which states that if Russia, or one of its Proxies like Belarus, detonates a Tactical nuclear bomb inside Ukraine, or if something happens to the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant causing radiation leakage, that would be "an attack upon NATO" triggering war.
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/u-s-senators-introduce-resolution-nato-article-5-invokes-if-tactical-nuke-or-nuclear-power-plant-in-ukraine-emits-radiation
zelensky has said that Russia has mined the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant.
Military draft in kiev
nato blows up a bridge in Crimea.
Planning a false flag, they have to do it fast because nato's defender 23 ends today, and they want to execute the false flag while the nato
planes and troops are still in place and ready to attack.
Next 24/48 hours?
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Meanwhile in Ukraine......
— Spetsnaℤ 007 (@Alex_Oloyede2) June 23, 2023
50,000 Russian soldiers surrendered at once. The HIMARS are hitting Russia. The AFU entered Donetsk and took the airport. The head of the DPR asks for negotiations.
Ukrainian TV channel "Poltava television". pic.twitter.com/20yFfC15Um
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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For the first time, the Russian army units in Zaporozhye began using the most modern mine-laying system in the world.. the "Zemledeliye" system. pic.twitter.com/mSTnMH38P7
— Sprinter (@Sprinter99880) June 23, 2023
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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MORE DRAMA#Prigozhin filed a complaint with the Investigative Committee against Gerasimov and Shoigu, alleging their involvement in the "genocide of the Russian people" and the relinquishment of occupied territories by the #Russian army. https://t.co/VJp5G0IlXl
— Russian Market (@runews) June 23, 2023
He even made it to Kiyv Post lol...
“#Ukraine has not bombed #Donetsk for 8 years, only Russian positions. The Armed Forces of Ukraine were not going to attack Russia with #NATO soldiers; the Russian Ministry of Defense is deceiving the public and the President,” #Wagner PMC chief #Prigozhin said during the… pic.twitter.com/CgRxNAGh2l
— KyivPost (@KyivPost) June 23, 2023
And here comes Strelkov...
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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