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Böhse Tante wrote:I have the impression, in Germany the gov. and the people try to be "nice" to each other - the same as it was since decades. And the gov. doesn't want to risk this - they appeal to people's common sense, only when this does not work will tougher measures be considered.

In the UK and US, I have the impression that the government is lax or strict on whim, no matter how people react. Reminds me of my mother's education method - it leads to hatred and rebellion. But there is still the "obey without obeying" method - you carry out the orders, but in a way that leads to undesirable results. During my youth I became an expert in it.



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Bolivia on the Verge of a Social Explosion Against the Pandemic and the Government https://t.co/Y79xS2XGJO

— Y.N.M.S (@ynms79797979) April 5, 2020

刘汉 wrote:

Böhse Tante wrote:I have the impression, in Germany the gov. and the people try to be "nice" to each other - the same as it was since decades. And the gov. doesn't want to risk this - they appeal to people's common sense, only when this does not work will tougher measures be considered.

In the UK and US, I have the impression that the government is lax or strict on whim, no matter how people react. Reminds me of my mother's education method - it leads to hatred and rebellion. But there is still the "obey without obeying" method - you carry out the orders, but in a way that leads to undesirable results. During my youth I became an expert in it.



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The problem now is, if the government, that I don't like, is giving the right order? I do it, but not out of obeydiance, but because it is right. To do the opposite, just to disobey, is in this case childish.
When I was in school, I never understood, why my classmates always wanted to bother or torture the teachers. I did this only, if he was incompetent, but then I did it in a way, that he never dared  to come back to  the classroom.
If a boss in the job is giving me an order, that is complete nonsense, I obey to the last letter with devastating result and tell him: I have told you before.

Böhse Tante wrote:

刘汉 wrote:

Böhse Tante wrote:I have the impression, in Germany the gov. and the people try to be "nice" to each other - the same as it was since decades. And the gov. doesn't want to risk this - they appeal to people's common sense, only when this does not work will tougher measures be considered.

In the UK and US, I have the impression that the government is lax or strict on whim, no matter how people react. Reminds me of my mother's education method - it leads to hatred and rebellion. But there is still the "obey without obeying" method - you carry out the orders, but in a way that leads to undesirable results. During my youth I became an expert in it.



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The problem now is, if the government, that I don't like, is giving the right order? I do it, but not out of obeydiance, but because it is right. To do the opposite, just to disobey, is in this case childish.
When I was in school, I never understood, why my classmates always wanted to bother or torture the teachers. I did this only, if he was incompetent, but then I did it in a way, that he never dared  to come back to  the classroom.
If a boss in the job is giving me an order, that is complete nonsense, I obey to the last letter with devastating result and tell him: I have told you before.

I stayed at home weeks before I was told so, because I thought it is the right decision. My decision. Not theirs. I'm able to lead myself, I usually do not need advisers, except I have absolutely no idea about a matter, but that happens not very often.

Böhse Tante wrote:Something in our tv about a tv speech of the Queen this evening, in which she calls on the British to persevere and to iron discipline.

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An unknown number of US troops in bases in Iraq and Syria have been spotted with a corona virus. https://t.co/aZY02M3l9g

— Y.N.M.S (@ynms79797979) April 5, 2020

刘汉 wrote:https://www.hastakshepnews.com/covid-19-depression-donald-trump-needs-a-war/

COVID-19 Depression : Donald Trump Needs a War ?

Böhse Tante wrote:

刘汉 wrote:https://www.hastakshepnews.com/covid-19-depression-donald-trump-needs-a-war/

COVID-19 Depression : Donald Trump Needs a War ?

The depression was already looming in the US/EU economies, success was mainly "windows dressing". Capitalism needs a war since years now. 40 years ago covid-19 wouldn't have done so much damage on economy. It only hits an already crumbling economy - the straw that breaks the camel's back.

https://t.co/y37CQcjcFH

— Eva Bartlett (@EvaKBartlett) April 5, 2020

Mr Badger wrote:

Böhse Tante wrote:

刘汉 wrote:

Böhse Tante wrote:I have the impression, in Germany the gov. and the people try to be "nice" to each other - the same as it was since decades. And the gov. doesn't want to risk this - they appeal to people's common sense, only when this does not work will tougher measures be considered.

In the UK and US, I have the impression that the government is lax or strict on whim, no matter how people react. Reminds me of my mother's education method - it leads to hatred and rebellion. But there is still the "obey without obeying" method - you carry out the orders, but in a way that leads to undesirable results. During my youth I became an expert in it.



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The problem now is, if the government, that I don't like, is giving the right order? I do it, but not out of obeydiance, but because it is right. To do the opposite, just to disobey, is in this case childish.
When I was in school, I never understood, why my classmates always wanted to bother or torture the teachers. I did this only, if he was incompetent, but then I did it in a way, that he never dared  to come back to  the classroom.
If a boss in the job is giving me an order, that is complete nonsense, I obey to the last letter with devastating result and tell him: I have told you before.

I stayed at home weeks before I was told so, because I thought it is the right decision. My decision. Not theirs. I'm able to lead myself, I usually do not need advisers, except I have absolutely no idea about a matter, but that happens not very often.

I guess in my own, roundabout way, this is what I was trying to say earlier, that some took exception to. (understandable, as I do tend to lose my temper and rant)

It isn't the case that I say "fuck the government, I don't take orders" just for the sake of saying it. I say it because I detest the assumption by government that we are unable to reason and make sensible choices for ourselves, and therefore must be treated as children and punished if we don't do as we're told.

I'll stay away from the town because I will likely not survive this flu due to my poor health, but not because I've been "ordered" to.

The screw has been turned over the last few decades by successive UK governments, but slowly enough that people become accustomed to the increasing pressure.

Some may not agree, but even the smoking ban in pubs and clubs was a part of this. It was terribly destructive to our pub industry, with them closing down all over the UK due to people avoiding them and drinking with friends at home instead. Just 15 years ago the village pub was like a glowing jewel from the outside with the sounds of people laughing and joking inside, always a welcoming atmosphere to step into, same as anywhere in the world, I'd imagine. Now, villages are like ghost towns, quiet and dark and if the pub is still functioning, it is sterile and empty. Dividing the pubs into smoking / non-smoking would have been sufficient, instead the very fabric of our social centres was torn apart as the "Nanny State" stepped in and told us what was best for us.

Ok, I'm going off at a tangent a bit. Too much time stuck indoors!

Mr Badger wrote:

Böhse Tante wrote:

刘汉 wrote:

Böhse Tante wrote:I have the impression, in Germany the gov. and the people try to be "nice" to each other - the same as it was since decades. And the gov. doesn't want to risk this - they appeal to people's common sense, only when this does not work will tougher measures be considered.

In the UK and US, I have the impression that the government is lax or strict on whim, no matter how people react. Reminds me of my mother's education method - it leads to hatred and rebellion. But there is still the "obey without obeying" method - you carry out the orders, but in a way that leads to undesirable results. During my youth I became an expert in it.



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The problem now is, if the government, that I don't like, is giving the right order? I do it, but not out of obeydiance, but because it is right. To do the opposite, just to disobey, is in this case childish.
When I was in school, I never understood, why my classmates always wanted to bother or torture the teachers. I did this only, if he was incompetent, but then I did it in a way, that he never dared  to come back to  the classroom.
If a boss in the job is giving me an order, that is complete nonsense, I obey to the last letter with devastating result and tell him: I have told you before.

I stayed at home weeks before I was told so, because I thought it is the right decision. My decision. Not theirs. I'm able to lead myself, I usually do not need advisers, except I have absolutely no idea about a matter, but that happens not very often.

I guess in my own, roundabout way, this is what I was trying to say earlier, that some took exception to. (understandable, as I do tend to lose my temper and rant)

It isn't the case that I say "fuck the government, I don't take orders" just for the sake of saying it. I say it because I detest the assumption by government that we are unable to reason and make sensible choices for ourselves, and therefore must be treated as children and punished if we don't do as we're told.

I'll stay away from the town because I will likely not survive this flu due to my poor health, but not because I've been "ordered" to.

The screw has been turned over the last few decades by successive UK governments, but slowly enough that people become accustomed to the increasing pressure.

Some may not agree, but even the smoking ban in pubs and clubs was a part of this. It was terribly destructive to our pub industry, with them closing down all over the UK due to people avoiding them and drinking with friends at home instead. Just 15 years ago the village pub was like a glowing jewel from the outside with the sounds of people laughing and joking inside, always a welcoming atmosphere to step into, same as anywhere in the world, I'd imagine. Now, villages are like ghost towns, quiet and dark and if the pub is still functioning, it is sterile and empty. Dividing the pubs into smoking / non-smoking would have been sufficient, instead the very fabric of our social centres was torn apart as the "Nanny State" stepped in and told us what was best for us.

Ok, I'm going off at a tangent a bit. Too much time stuck indoors!

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