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Post by KneelB4Zod! Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:03 pm

Böhse Tante wrote:Because of dying "with" or "from" the virus, were such distinctions also made in the case of "normal flu"? I can only remember one time that I had the flu (spring 2003), I did not even go to the doctor, only with my daughter to the pediatrician. It was no fun with fever, head and muscle aches, but I had felt worse with other illnesses. So who are the people who die of the "normal flu"? 

Or to put it another way, if a 60-year-old asthmatic with diabetes, overweight and cardiovascular problems is shot, is the murderer acquitted because the victim would have died soon anyway?

One more thing, the lockdown will have a positive effect on the number of deaths and serious injuries from traffic accidents.

But anyway, the numbers will be "adjusted". However, I don't think Iran, Russia or China will join in any "games" and move numbers up. I have decided for myself that I trust reports and statements from these countries or also Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela or Syria more than those from the " Values West" (German mockword "Wertewesten"). 

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Hopefully I will listen another part of David Icke's interview today. I wrote my opinions regarding some points and opinions he rised. One interesting thing is manipulation with numbers deaths. US clearly says they do not make difference if patient dies of pneumonia couase by COVID-19 or of hearth attack, amid moderate or mild sickness. It's very important difference though. In the US, where population is largerly overwight, so oftenly suffers of heart attacks, strokes etc. it can be major thing affecting the numbers. Now in Walles they even want to caunt as COVID-19 victims even victums without being tested for the scikness.

That's one interesting thing he noted. The other one is overall mortality. He claims that numbers of deaths are not going through the roof. In other words, mortality of population is similar. Here I would wppreaciate help as I failed to find such charts online. I mean some well-arranged.
To put this in example:

If we have certain country, where, during spring, 10.000 people die of a flu every year, this year it would be like only 2.000 people die of a flu and 9.000 of COVID-19. So there is likely slightly more deaths, as COVID-19 is more agressive, but it's not like there is 10k people dying of a flu and another 10k people dying of COVID-19.

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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Post by Böhse Tante Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:57 pm

In the TV news, various hospitals in Germany such as rehab clinics, heart centers, etc. have too few patients and have to work short time. 

Less heart problems because of a lack of stress?

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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Post by Böhse Tante Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:09 pm

KneelB4Zod! wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:Because of dying "with" or "from" the virus, were such distinctions also made in the case of "normal flu"? I can only remember one time that I had the flu (spring 2003), I did not even go to the doctor, only with my daughter to the pediatrician. It was no fun with fever, head and muscle aches, but I had felt worse with other illnesses. So who are the people who die of the "normal flu"? 

Or to put it another way, if a 60-year-old asthmatic with diabetes, overweight and cardiovascular problems is shot, is the murderer acquitted because the victim would have died soon anyway?

One more thing, the lockdown will have a positive effect on the number of deaths and serious injuries from traffic accidents.

But anyway, the numbers will be "adjusted". However, I don't think Iran, Russia or China will join in any "games" and move numbers up. I have decided for myself that I trust reports and statements from these countries or also Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela or Syria more than those from the " Values West" (German mockword "Wertewesten"). 

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Hopefully I will listen another part of David Icke's interview today. I wrote my opinions regarding some points and opinions he rised. One interesting thing is manipulation with numbers deaths. US clearly says they do not make difference if patient dies of pneumonia couase by COVID-19 or of hearth attack, amid moderate or mild sickness. It's very important difference though. In the US, where population is largerly overwight, so oftenly suffers of heart attacks, strokes etc. it can be major thing affecting the numbers. Now in Walles they even want to caunt as COVID-19 victims even victums without being tested for the scikness.

That's one interesting thing he noted. The other one is overall mortality. He claims that numbers of deaths are not going through the roof. In other words, mortality of population is similar. Here I would wppreaciate help as I failed to find such charts online. I mean some well-arranged.
To put this in example:

If we have certain country, where, during spring, 10.000 people die of a flu every year, this year it would be like only 2.000 people die of a flu and 9.000 of COVID-19. So there is likely slightly more deaths, as COVID-19 is more agressive, but it's not like there is 10k people dying of a flu and another 10k people dying of COVID-19.

Therefore I would like to see more the numbers per capita! For the US numbers of infected Iceland would need some migrants and for their death numbers other countries would be emptied. With absolute number of ~ 3000 deaths like in China the little Luxembourg would have a big problem.

That is the problem, they give you numbers that could scare some people but nothing that you can decide for yourself how to see it. Big time for fearmongers, VTs and esoteric BS. Especially as most people have neither an idea about viruses nor of statistics or math. And instead of using the time to learn a bit they push each other to make the biggest nonsense even bigger. 

Of course the "usual suspects" are now trying to make their decades old wet dreams come true. But what interest should China, for example, have had in organizing such a theater because of Covid-19? They are already a surveillance state, which most Chinese even seem to want.


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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:29 pm

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KneelB4Zod! wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:Because of dying "with" or "from" the virus, were such distinctions also made in the case of "normal flu"? I can only remember one time that I had the flu (spring 2003), I did not even go to the doctor, only with my daughter to the pediatrician. It was no fun with fever, head and muscle aches, but I had felt worse with other illnesses. So who are the people who die of the "normal flu"? 

Or to put it another way, if a 60-year-old asthmatic with diabetes, overweight and cardiovascular problems is shot, is the murderer acquitted because the victim would have died soon anyway?

One more thing, the lockdown will have a positive effect on the number of deaths and serious injuries from traffic accidents.

But anyway, the numbers will be "adjusted". However, I don't think Iran, Russia or China will join in any "games" and move numbers up. I have decided for myself that I trust reports and statements from these countries or also Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela or Syria more than those from the " Values West" (German mockword "Wertewesten"). 

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Hopefully I will listen another part of David Icke's interview today. I wrote my opinions regarding some points and opinions he rised. One interesting thing is manipulation with numbers deaths. US clearly says they do not make difference if patient dies of pneumonia couase by COVID-19 or of hearth attack, amid moderate or mild sickness. It's very important difference though. In the US, where population is largerly overwight, so oftenly suffers of heart attacks, strokes etc. it can be major thing affecting the numbers. Now in Walles they even want to caunt as COVID-19 victims even victums without being tested for the scikness.

That's one interesting thing he noted. The other one is overall mortality. He claims that numbers of deaths are not going through the roof. In other words, mortality of population is similar. Here I would wppreaciate help as I failed to find such charts online. I mean some well-arranged.
To put this in example:

If we have certain country, where, during spring, 10.000 people die of a flu every year, this year it would be like only 2.000 people die of a flu and 9.000 of COVID-19. So there is likely slightly more deaths, as COVID-19 is more agressive, but it's not like there is 10k people dying of a flu and another 10k people dying of COVID-19.

Therefore I would like to see more the numbers per capita! For the US numbers of infected Iceland would need some migrants and for their death numbers other countries would be emptied. With absolute number of ~ 3000 deaths like in China the little Luxembourg would have a big problem.

That is the problem, they give you numbers that could scare some people but nothing that you can decide for yourself how to see it. Big time for fearmongers, VTs and esoteric BS. Especially as most people have neither an idea about viruses nor of statistics or math. And instead of using the time to learn a bit they push each other to make the biggest nonsense even bigger. 

Of course the "usual suspects" are now trying to make their decades old wet dreams come true. But what interest should China, for example, have had in organizing such a theater because of Covid-19? They are already a surveillance state, which most Chinese even seem to want.


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Did you follow Military Games trail little bit? Possible conclussion is China was just launching pad for the pandemy. It's quite logic as Chine is one of main opponents of western linked globalist eforts. It goes along Trump's anti-China policy as well.

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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KneelB4Zod! wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:Because of dying "with" or "from" the virus, were such distinctions also made in the case of "normal flu"? I can only remember one time that I had the flu (spring 2003), I did not even go to the doctor, only with my daughter to the pediatrician. It was no fun with fever, head and muscle aches, but I had felt worse with other illnesses. So who are the people who die of the "normal flu"? 

Or to put it another way, if a 60-year-old asthmatic with diabetes, overweight and cardiovascular problems is shot, is the murderer acquitted because the victim would have died soon anyway?

One more thing, the lockdown will have a positive effect on the number of deaths and serious injuries from traffic accidents.

But anyway, the numbers will be "adjusted". However, I don't think Iran, Russia or China will join in any "games" and move numbers up. I have decided for myself that I trust reports and statements from these countries or also Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela or Syria more than those from the " Values West" (German mockword "Wertewesten"). 

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Hopefully I will listen another part of David Icke's interview today. I wrote my opinions regarding some points and opinions he rised. One interesting thing is manipulation with numbers deaths. US clearly says they do not make difference if patient dies of pneumonia couase by COVID-19 or of hearth attack, amid moderate or mild sickness. It's very important difference though. In the US, where population is largerly overwight, so oftenly suffers of heart attacks, strokes etc. it can be major thing affecting the numbers. Now in Walles they even want to caunt as COVID-19 victims even victums without being tested for the scikness.

That's one interesting thing he noted. The other one is overall mortality. He claims that numbers of deaths are not going through the roof. In other words, mortality of population is similar. Here I would wppreaciate help as I failed to find such charts online. I mean some well-arranged.
To put this in example:

If we have certain country, where, during spring, 10.000 people die of a flu every year, this year it would be like only 2.000 people die of a flu and 9.000 of COVID-19. So there is likely slightly more deaths, as COVID-19 is more agressive, but it's not like there is 10k people dying of a flu and another 10k people dying of COVID-19.

Therefore I would like to see more the numbers per capita! For the US numbers of infected Iceland would need some migrants and for their death numbers other countries would be emptied. With absolute number of ~ 3000 deaths like in China the little Luxembourg would have a big problem.

That is the problem, they give you numbers that could scare some people but nothing that you can decide for yourself how to see it. Big time for fearmongers, VTs and esoteric BS. Especially as most people have neither an idea about viruses nor of statistics or math. And instead of using the time to learn a bit they push each other to make the biggest nonsense even bigger. 

Of course the "usual suspects" are now trying to make their decades old wet dreams come true. But what interest should China, for example, have had in organizing such a theater because of Covid-19? They are already a surveillance state, which most Chinese even seem to want.


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Did you follow Military Games trail little bit? Possible conclussion is China was just launching pad for the pandemy. It's quite logic as Chine is one of main opponents of western linked globalist eforts. It goes along Trump's anti-China policy as well.

Intelligence report warned of coronavirus crisis as early as November: Sources

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273

Of course they did. Military Games ended on 27th of October...

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Did you follow Military Games trail little bit? Possible conclussion is China was just launching pad for the pandemy. It's quite logic as Chine is one of main opponents of western linked globalist eforts. It goes along Trump's anti-China policy as well.

The Chinese social media (wechat et al.) are full of this theory and the Chinese government is not blocking the discussion.

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KneelB4Zod! wrote:

Did you follow Military Games trail little bit? Possible conclussion is China was just launching pad for the pandemy. It's quite logic as Chine is one of main opponents of western linked globalist eforts. It goes along Trump's anti-China policy as well.

The Chinese social media (wechat et al.) are full of this theory and the Chinese government is not blocking the discussion.

To me it sounds very likely. Dates add up. There is another remarkable coincidence. On the same day as Military Games started, Event 201 was launched as well (with support of the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation).

Now Gates is lobbying for mandatory vaccination. Together with Fauci they both claim "life can't come back to it's pre-pandemy tracks till madatory vaccination will be done".


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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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http://en.people.cn/n3/2020/0409/c90000-9677765.html

So-called humanitarianism cannot disguise US’ bullying nature

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KneelB4Zod! wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:

Did you follow Military Games trail little bit? Possible conclussion is China was just launching pad for the pandemy. It's quite logic as Chine is one of main opponents of western linked globalist eforts. It goes along Trump's anti-China policy as well.

The Chinese social media (wechat et al.) are full of this theory and the Chinese government is not blocking the discussion.

To me it sounds very likely. Dates add up. There is another remarkable coincidence. On the same day as Military Games started, Event 201 was launched as well (with support of the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation).

Now Gates is lobbying for mandatory vaccination. Together with Fauci they both claim "life can't come back to it's pre-pandemy tracks till madatory vaccination will be done".


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But this means more. China really wants to blame it on the US. They want to make clear to all the world, that US is the bully.

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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Czech Republic: We have 5467 confirmed COVID19 infections. It's 246 new cases in last 24 hours.

We have 301 recovered (+68).

We have 112 fatalities (+13).

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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https://www.mittellaendische.ch/2020/04/08/covid-19-eine-zwischenbilanz-oder-eine-analyse-der-moral-der-medizinischen-fakten-sowie-der-aktuellen-und-zukünftigen-politischen-entscheidungen/

Here a German text from a Swiss doctor, a few things I've already considered. The "flu-numbers" have apparently always being exaggerated and nobody seemed to be bothered by that so far. I prefer to look at several POVs and compare with what I've already known before. 

However, I am currently learning a few new aspects about viruses, e.g. the difference between RNA and DNA viruses. 45 years ago, not much, if anything, was known about this even among scientists. 

From the article: Covid-19 is also more dangerous because of other demands on treatment and on the health system/hospitals - which is not represented by pure statistics at all.

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Shit, when I try to put the URL in the translator I make something wrong. 

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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KneelB4Zod! wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:Because of dying "with" or "from" the virus, were such distinctions also made in the case of "normal flu"? I can only remember one time that I had the flu (spring 2003), I did not even go to the doctor, only with my daughter to the pediatrician. It was no fun with fever, head and muscle aches, but I had felt worse with other illnesses. So who are the people who die of the "normal flu"? 

Or to put it another way, if a 60-year-old asthmatic with diabetes, overweight and cardiovascular problems is shot, is the murderer acquitted because the victim would have died soon anyway?

One more thing, the lockdown will have a positive effect on the number of deaths and serious injuries from traffic accidents.

But anyway, the numbers will be "adjusted". However, I don't think Iran, Russia or China will join in any "games" and move numbers up. I have decided for myself that I trust reports and statements from these countries or also Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela or Syria more than those from the " Values West" (German mockword "Wertewesten"). 

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Hopefully I will listen another part of David Icke's interview today. I wrote my opinions regarding some points and opinions he rised. One interesting thing is manipulation with numbers deaths. US clearly says they do not make difference if patient dies of pneumonia couase by COVID-19 or of hearth attack, amid moderate or mild sickness. It's very important difference though. In the US, where population is largerly overwight, so oftenly suffers of heart attacks, strokes etc. it can be major thing affecting the numbers. Now in Walles they even want to caunt as COVID-19 victims even victums without being tested for the scikness.

That's one interesting thing he noted. The other one is overall mortality. He claims that numbers of deaths are not going through the roof. In other words, mortality of population is similar. Here I would wppreaciate help as I failed to find such charts online. I mean some well-arranged.
To put this in example:

If we have certain country, where, during spring, 10.000 people die of a flu every year, this year it would be like only 2.000 people die of a flu and 9.000 of COVID-19. So there is likely slightly more deaths, as COVID-19 is more agressive, but it's not like there is 10k people dying of a flu and another 10k people dying of COVID-19.

Therefore I would like to see more the numbers per capita! For the US numbers of infected Iceland would need some migrants and for their death numbers other countries would be emptied. With absolute number of ~ 3000 deaths like in China the little Luxembourg would have a big problem.

That is the problem, they give you numbers that could scare some people but nothing that you can decide for yourself how to see it. Big time for fearmongers, VTs and esoteric BS. Especially as most people have neither an idea about viruses nor of statistics or math. And instead of using the time to learn a bit they push each other to make the biggest nonsense even bigger. 

Of course the "usual suspects" are now trying to make their decades old wet dreams come true. But what interest should China, for example, have had in organizing such a theater because of Covid-19? They are already a surveillance state, which most Chinese even seem to want.


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Did you follow Military Games trail little bit? Possible conclussion is China was just launching pad for the pandemy. It's quite logic as Chine is one of main opponents of western linked globalist eforts. It goes along Trump's anti-China policy as well.

Intelligence report warned of coronavirus crisis as early as November: Sources

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273

Of course they did. Military Games ended on 27th of October...


I thought I posted a bit of it here?!? From Nanotech ET man, Che Hambley, BotPutins and many others. Or did I only read it and forgot to post it here?  

I try to take all these aspects into account, but I don't think we should underestimate the dangerousness of the virus only because it might be artificial - au contraire. Because I know what these "godlike" idiots usually do: a lot of bullshit. They think they have everything under control but always forget a critical part.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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KneelB4Zod! wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:

Did you follow Military Games trail little bit? Possible conclussion is China was just launching pad for the pandemy. It's quite logic as Chine is one of main opponents of western linked globalist eforts. It goes along Trump's anti-China policy as well.

The Chinese social media (wechat et al.) are full of this theory and the Chinese government is not blocking the discussion.

To me it sounds very likely. Dates add up. There is another remarkable coincidence. On the same day as Military Games started, Event 201 was launched as well (with support of the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation).

Now Gates is lobbying for mandatory vaccination. Together with Fauci they both claim "life can't come back to it's pre-pandemy tracks till madatory vaccination will be done".


Before that the culling of billionaires is mandatory.

Twisted Evil

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Post by Slovák Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:10 pm

Böhse Tante wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:

Did you follow Military Games trail little bit? Possible conclussion is China was just launching pad for the pandemy. It's quite logic as Chine is one of main opponents of western linked globalist eforts. It goes along Trump's anti-China policy as well.

The Chinese social media (wechat et al.) are full of this theory and the Chinese government is not blocking the discussion.

To me it sounds very likely. Dates add up. There is another remarkable coincidence. On the same day as Military Games started, Event 201 was launched as well (with support of the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation).

Now Gates is lobbying for mandatory vaccination. Together with Fauci they both claim "life can't come back to it's pre-pandemy tracks till madatory vaccination will be done".


Before that the culling of billionaires is mandatory.

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In Murica the billionaires are worshiped, not culled.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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KneelB4Zod! wrote:

What said Israel Health Minister? Covid-19 is punishment for homosexuality - two days later he and is wife were infected.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Böhse Tante wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:Because of dying "with" or "from" the virus, were such distinctions also made in the case of "normal flu"? I can only remember one time that I had the flu (spring 2003), I did not even go to the doctor, only with my daughter to the pediatrician. It was no fun with fever, head and muscle aches, but I had felt worse with other illnesses. So who are the people who die of the "normal flu"? 

Or to put it another way, if a 60-year-old asthmatic with diabetes, overweight and cardiovascular problems is shot, is the murderer acquitted because the victim would have died soon anyway?

One more thing, the lockdown will have a positive effect on the number of deaths and serious injuries from traffic accidents.

But anyway, the numbers will be "adjusted". However, I don't think Iran, Russia or China will join in any "games" and move numbers up. I have decided for myself that I trust reports and statements from these countries or also Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela or Syria more than those from the " Values West" (German mockword "Wertewesten"). 

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Hopefully I will listen another part of David Icke's interview today. I wrote my opinions regarding some points and opinions he rised. One interesting thing is manipulation with numbers deaths. US clearly says they do not make difference if patient dies of pneumonia couase by COVID-19 or of hearth attack, amid moderate or mild sickness. It's very important difference though. In the US, where population is largerly overwight, so oftenly suffers of heart attacks, strokes etc. it can be major thing affecting the numbers. Now in Walles they even want to caunt as COVID-19 victims even victums without being tested for the scikness.

That's one interesting thing he noted. The other one is overall mortality. He claims that numbers of deaths are not going through the roof. In other words, mortality of population is similar. Here I would wppreaciate help as I failed to find such charts online. I mean some well-arranged.
To put this in example:

If we have certain country, where, during spring, 10.000 people die of a flu every year, this year it would be like only 2.000 people die of a flu and 9.000 of COVID-19. So there is likely slightly more deaths, as COVID-19 is more agressive, but it's not like there is 10k people dying of a flu and another 10k people dying of COVID-19.

Therefore I would like to see more the numbers per capita! For the US numbers of infected Iceland would need some migrants and for their death numbers other countries would be emptied. With absolute number of ~ 3000 deaths like in China the little Luxembourg would have a big problem.

That is the problem, they give you numbers that could scare some people but nothing that you can decide for yourself how to see it. Big time for fearmongers, VTs and esoteric BS. Especially as most people have neither an idea about viruses nor of statistics or math. And instead of using the time to learn a bit they push each other to make the biggest nonsense even bigger. 

Of course the "usual suspects" are now trying to make their decades old wet dreams come true. But what interest should China, for example, have had in organizing such a theater because of Covid-19? They are already a surveillance state, which most Chinese even seem to want.


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Did you follow Military Games trail little bit? Possible conclussion is China was just launching pad for the pandemy. It's quite logic as Chine is one of main opponents of western linked globalist eforts. It goes along Trump's anti-China policy as well.

Intelligence report warned of coronavirus crisis as early as November: Sources

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273

Of course they did. Military Games ended on 27th of October...


I thought I posted a bit of it here?!? From Nanotech ET man, Che Hambley, BotPutins and many others. Or did I only read it and forgot to post it here?  

I try to take all these aspects into account, but I don't think we should underestimate the dangerousness of the virus only because it might be artificial - au contraire. Because I know what these "godlike" idiots usually do: a lot of bullshit. They think they have everything under control but always forget a critical part.

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I'm not sayin' we should underestimate it. Vice versa, actually. I wrote several times we should take it seriously and so do I because countries as Russia or Iran do so, too. On other hand we should use common sense and don't be driven by fearmongering, which is, I believe, intentionally launched as a tool of population control.

Let's not forget facts we know:

Numbers of victims are unreliable as US, for example, doesn't consider other causes of death if COVID-19 diagnosed

Virus attacks already vulnerable people, who would probably suffer of severe complications if infected with common flu

Virus seems to be more infectious than common flu so it means more people being infected in shorter time than it would be with common flu - and this is actually what makes it perfect tool to spread fear among wide population: many people dying and being sick at the same time - regardless big possibility they would be sick, or death, because of common flu, but not in one month but in 3 or 4

Globalist ruled countries for years comply that the population is aging, there are too large pension payments etc. - this is perfect pension reform as well


But, what we really should be prepared for, and be afraid of, is what the hegemons plan after this mostly fake crisis. Mandatory vaccinations, surveilance, restrictions and regulations affecting civil rights of every citizen of so-called western, democratic civilization. Private companies taking over control of public things, politics and freedom. Let's not be distracted with strange flu, let's be concerned on the real issue - future world slavery planned by self proclaimed elite.

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Post by Böhse Tante Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:46 pm

There's only one solution - we must get rid of this self proclaimed elite. 

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Post by Mr Badger Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:11 pm

Just back from attempting to get some food supplies.

Tesco: dozens of people queued across the car park at regular intervals, being herded and directed by security staff, we drove away.

Morrisons: Getting into the store was ok. I tried picking up a carton of milk but had my way physically blocked by a staff member with a roll cage and asked what I wanted. Had to have her pass me the milk.

By the time we had everything, we found ourselves queued halfway around the store with cordons penning us off either side and markers placed on the floor directing us where to stand. Meanwhile a recorded voice kept repeating over and over on a loudspeaker about how we should maintain "social distancing" at all times and that failure to comply would not be tolerated.

I think it was at that point I snapped. Abandoned trolley, pushed through the cordons and left via the fire exit.

Third stop: the Co-Op. No queues, no markers on the floor, no security guards and no "Offenders will be tied up with piano wire and shot" bullshit over the loudspeaker (80's music instead) Just a few signs up asking people to take sensible precautions. Very little food to be had but got what we could. No fuss or bother.

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