Re: #113 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe

[khnum]

AMLO: "What is Communism?" pic.twitter.com/R50aRIM9jh

— COMBATE | (@upholdreality) January 18, 2023

 

That's his own definition, not the official one.
Communism means (public) state control of the means of production and not only. Everything that empowers the state, inherently leads to dictatorship.
A form of common ownership without a state is not communism, so that is just propaganda with a smile.
Altruism has its limits. I do not call it fair when those smart and productive are working to keep the stupid and the lazy happy. I had socialist/communist views in my youth but I learned better. The hard way.

Communism is defined that neither state nor rule is still necessary, but it means the "free association of free individuals". What some idiots tell from their ass is irrelevant to this, be it any opponents or alleged "socialists", "communists" or other "supporters" who are too stupid, ignorant or malicious to understand it. 

What you are spreading here is a straw man, you are criticizing a non-existent thing. With you, I suspect that you are afraid of freedom, otherwise you would not run after a leader.

I don't know if you lived in GDR or if the lands and homes there were confiscated there like it was in my country where peasants were left with max 500sqm around the house for domestic use and forced to work hundreds of days per year on the "common" lands with no pay and no rights to a pension. If they owned a cow or a few hens they had to give 30-50% of the milk and eggs to the state, otherwise their livestock would have been taken away. This is just a small example.
In my "straw man" fear, I cannot call that "free association of free individuals". Careful what you wish for.

And I don't run after a leader, but life taught me that out of 100 people you'll barley find 2-3 to make a stand and fight for something they believe in. The rest are complying or just talk and no act. That's why I respect someone that takes the risk and fights, despite the odds.

Since you keep attacking me personally, I will stop replying to your posts. I hope you'll at least appreciate my decency of not responding with the same coin.

I did not return here to start any fights. I truly wanted to see if the events we live today made anyone reconsider their previous positions, or at least to make them reflect upon them. We always learn from our own mistakes.

You have a different opinion to mine but that is ok the world would be a boring place if we were all the same,which is exactly what the globalists want to turn us into forget Clinton,Trump,Obama,Bush,Biden the plan unfolding was first formulated 50 years ago the Politicians are just the Kabuki show puppets take WEF Youth leader Jacinda Adern's resignation the same week as Davos she didn't retire she was fired

[Orange Man Bad]

[Orange Man Bad]

You have a different opinion to mine but that is ok the world would be a boring place if we were all the same,which is exactly what the globalists want to turn us into forget Clinton,Trump,Obama,Bush,Biden the plan unfolding was first formulated 50 years ago the Politicians are just the Kabuki show puppets take WEF Youth leader Jacinda Adern's resignation the same week as Davos she didn't retire she was fired

I guess what I experienced during "socialism" was worse than others here.
Not personally though - I would say that I had quite a good life compared to the vast majority, somehow maybe even better than now. But the pain I saw around is not something to forget.

In history, there were always dark interests and agendas. What worries me most now is the drastic drop in human quality, intelligence, knowledge , self respect and empathy among the puppets leading the world in the past few decades. Looking at the world leaders today and comparing them to what we had 40-100 years ago is scary. Sometimes I think we are living some kind of experiment to see how much humanity can handle stupidity.

[Böhse Tante]

What people forget (or just don’t know) about the #Nazis’ genocidal brutality was that it wasn’t driven merely by racial hatred.

Millions were tortured and killed because of their POLITICS (not their race) — specifically, any member of the #Communist party was marked for death. pic.twitter.com/2iz1v39kC3

— Lori Spencer (@RealLoriSpencer) January 19, 2023

 

Bolsheviks not Communist. it is clearly visible on poster. in big letters...

Bolshevism (from Bolshevik) is a revolutionary socialist current of Soviet Marxist–Leninist political thought and political regime associated with the formation of a rigidly centralized, cohesive and disciplined party of social revolution, focused on overthrowing the existing capitalist state system, seizing power and establishing the "dictatorship of the proletariat".[1][2]

Bolshevism originated at the beginning of the 20th century in Russia and was associated with the activities of the Bolshevik faction within the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party – and first of all, the founder of the faction, Vladimir Lenin. Remaining on the soil of Marxism, Bolshevism at the same time absorbed elements of the ideology and practice of the revolutionaries of the second half of the 19th century (Sergey Nechaev, Pyotr Tkachev, Nikolay Chernyshevsky) and had many points of contact with such domestic left–wing radical movements as populism.[3][4] The main theorist of Bolshevism was Vladimir Lenin; besides him, the theoreticians of Bolshevism include Leon Trotsky, Nikolai Bukharin and Yevgeni Preobrazhensky.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolshevism

The Nazis also killed Social Democrats, trade unionists or anyone who had opposed their policies for Christian or other reasons. So far not "only" Bolsheviks.

What are you telling us here?

[Böhse Tante]

What are these stupid discussions about capitalism versus communism? There is no communism far and wide, these are ghost battles.

At the moment, a war of the unipolar "rule-based order" (whose rules no one calls and no one knows) is going on against a liveable, "multipolar" world. In contrast to these ideological trench battles, this is a real struggle, which I consider to be much more important for the time being. 

But it is already clear to me why the pseudo-righteous are constantly sparking in between. Secretly, they wish that Transatlantistan does not perish, because they cannot imagine the multipolar world, this new one scares them. 

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[Zambeezi]

Amlo was not trying to 'define' communism (in the post to which you began your lecture)
rather
his POINT was: what do you DO with the POOR?? (reference to words of christ)
The entire African continent/S.Am continent/Sub Continent ALL must now solve this question.
Taking a broad brush of criticism and labeling all sovereign efforts as 'communism'...
is what Amlo was RETORTING to.
Zodland understands the dilemmas and failures of the various economic theories.
Multi-Polarity is what Zodland supports. Let the sovereigns be sovereign.
Let Amlo/Mexico try their 'variation'.
Your presumption that they're all 'doomed to failure' crashes and burns upon China alone.

I'm rather appealing to your 'other' self... the humble, reflective one... the one that is still learning... not lecturing.
Help us to EXPLORE the dynamics across the planet...
do not TEACH us...
LEARN with us.

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Protesters are seeking immediate elections, the resignation of President Dina Boluarte
and the release from prison of ousted President Pedro Castillo.
Thousands march on Peru's capital to demand president resign
https://archive.is/wip/zfR5C
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/peru-protesters-pour-remote-andean-regions-demand-president-resign-rcna66580
Many came from remote Andean regions, where 55 people have died amid unrest since Peru’s first president from a rural Andean background was removed from office last month.
The protests have seen Peru’s worst political violence in more than two decades and highlighted deep divisions between the country’s urban elite, largely concentrated in Lima, and poor rural areas. Former President Pedro Castillo has been in detention and expected to be tried for rebellion since was impeached after a failed attempt to dissolve Congress.
The university was surrounded by police officers, who also deployed at key points of Lima’s historic downtown district — 11,800 officers in all, according to Victor Zanabria, the head of the Lima police force.
Boluarte was defiant Thursday night in a televised speech alongside key government officials in which she thanked police for controlling the “violent protests” and vowed to prosecute those responsible for violence. Boluarte has said she supports a plan to hold elections for president and Congress in 2024, two years before originally scheduled.
The president also criticized the protesters for “not having any kind of social agenda that the country needs,” accused them of “wanting to break the rule of law” and raised questions about their financing.
For much of the day, the protests played out as a cat-and-mouse game, with demonstrators, some of whom threw rocks at law enforcement, trying to get through police lines and officers responding with volleys of tear gas that sent protesters fleeing, using rags dipped in vinegar to alleviate the sting to their eyes and skin.
By bringing the protest to Lima, demonstrators hoped to give fresh weight to the movement that began when Boluarte was sworn into office on Dec. 7 to replace Castillo.
“When there are tragedies, bloodbaths outside the capital it doesn’t have the same political relevance in the public agenda than if it took place in the capital,”
Activists have dubbed Thursday’s demonstration in Lima as the Cuatro Suyos March, a reference to the four cardinal points of the Inca empire. It’s also the name given to a massive 2000 mobilization, when thousands of Peruvians took to the streets against the autocratic government of Alberto Fujimori, who resigned months later.

[Zambeezi]

India backs Sri Lanka to secure IMF bailout plan amid crisis
https://archive.is/wip/ZC8rj
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/india-backs-sri-lanka-secure-imf-bailout-plan-96556919


US announces $2.5 billion package for Ukraine, but no tanks
https://archive.is/wip/ZkpmX
https://www.dw.com/en/us-announces-25-billion-package-for-ukraine-but-no-tanks/a-64459274


Trump and his attorneys on the hook for nearly $1 million in sanctions for Clinton lawsuit, judge says
https://archive.is/wip/TvEaM
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/19/politics/trump-sanctions-clinton-lawsuit/index.html

[Zambeezi]

The FBI Director is openly bragging at the corrupt WEF about how much the FBI “partners” with Big Tech to censor the Free Speech of Americans

Apparently the Twitter Files didn’t scare them

The FBI seems quite proud of its tyranny https://t.co/t8TC4kq4lh

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) January 19, 2023

[Zambeezi]

reflect/marvel on THIS free trade bloc for instance...

Iran, Eurasian Economic Union finalize long-awaited Free Trade Agreement

Yusef Jalali reports from Tehran. pic.twitter.com/cOADNv137j

— Highlights (@highlightsnews1) January 20, 2023

a theocratic Sovereign (shia) w/ State owned/controlled assets
is jointly working with post Soviet Sunni Sovereigns w/ State owned/controlled assets
to forge ahead to coordinate with the larger BRI assembled nations... some of whom
still have POLITBUROS (like Viet Nam and China) ffs.

'Communism' is a canard.
The true ROT is much much darker and has nothing whatsoever to do with economics.
spit.

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so hard to shed the decades of control, supremacy & arrogance.
nevertheless... it's coming to an end.

Hours later, the U.S. embassy’s tone took a turn with a statement calling on Peru’s security forces to respect human rights and the right to protest and to protect citizens.

After 6 weeks of repression, the U.S. today broke its silence to express ‘sadness for the loss of life’. pic.twitter.com/yqfL8N1j4I

— Kawsachun News (@KawsachunNews) January 20, 2023

Dina Boluarte: "From the government, we say to the Peruvian people: The situation is under control" pic.twitter.com/uz6Gugc2FM

— Kawsachun News (@KawsachunNews) January 20, 2023

they have a cell-mate waiting for you Dina

[Zambeezi]

Earlier scenes as protesters filled Lima's Plaza 2 de Mayo in rejection of the Dina Boluarte regime.pic.twitter.com/m0TxBgA3Ui

— Kawsachun News (@KawsachunNews) January 19, 2023

Peru: Armored vehicles are used by the army to launch tear gas at demonstrators who marched peacefully through Lima to make their demands before the government.pic.twitter.com/zCvnAnHSuc

— Kawsachun News (@KawsachunNews) January 19, 2023

Despite repression, anti-coup protesters in Lima, Peru, continue in the streets calling for the fall of the regime.
@LuciaAlvites pic.twitter.com/SKa3gpe0x3

— Kawsachun News (@KawsachunNews) January 20, 2023

[Zambeezi]

Video showing torture of Russian pows
for today's meeting with the President of the ICRC, Mirjana Spolyari


https://odysee.com/@Velyaminov:a/Video-showing-torture-of-Russian-pows-for-today%27s-meeting-with-the-President-of-the-ICRC%2C-Mirjana-Spolyari:f


PMC "Wagner" handed over the body of Yevgeny Kulik, who fought in the French legion


https://odysee.com/@Velyaminov:a/PMC--Wagner--handed-over-the-body-of-Yevgeny-Kulik%2C-who-fought-in-the-French-legion:b


Epiphany bathing of the marines of the 155th brigade on the night of January 18-19, organized by Hieromonk Nestor


https://odysee.com/@Velyaminov:a/Epiphany-bathing-of-the-marines-of-the-155th-brigade-on-the-night-of-January-18-19%2C-organized-by-Hieromonk-Nestor:2

[Zambeezi]

[Böhse Tante]

https://t.me/c/1539248264/49979

"Where do you see yourself in 10 years?"

I:



A small forecast ...

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[Orange Man Bad]

Amlo was not trying to 'define' communism (in the post to which you began your lecture)
rather
his POINT was: what do you DO with the POOR?? (reference to words of christ)
The entire African continent/S.Am continent/Sub Continent ALL must now solve this question.
Taking a broad brush of criticism and labeling all sovereign efforts as 'communism'...
is what Amlo was RETORTING to.
Zodland understands the dilemmas and failures of the various economic theories.
Multi-Polarity is what Zodland supports. Let the sovereigns be sovereign.
Let Amlo/Mexico try their 'variation'.
Your presumption that they're all 'doomed to failure' crashes and burns upon China alone.

I'm rather appealing to your 'other' self... the humble, reflective one... the one that is still learning... not lecturing.
Help us to EXPLORE the dynamics across the planet...
do not TEACH us...
LEARN with us.

================

Sorry for my ignorance, but what is Zodland?
Are you referring to the users on this forum or is it something else?

We do not disagree on the way we see the world problems at all.
There are indeed inexcusable, painful and underserved inequities in the world. Some of them can be blamed on unhinged and unbalanced capitalism, but not all of them. Most countries in poverty are not like that because of the economical or social systems but because of the polarized, hegemonic and wicked world we live in. Some are the result of centuries of colonialism and exploitation. Human greed has no political color.
I am not a fan of capitalism, I do not even believe in democracy which I consider to be the dictatorship of the mediocrity. I believe there is no heaven on earth and nothing human is perfect. It is only a matter of avoiding the worst choice among all the bad ones we have.

What I am against, is some sort of fanboyism in the world today intoxicating uneducated masses and promoted by some intellectuals, presenting socialism/marxism/communism as the solution for the social and economic problems we are facing. I've seen it, I lived it, I understood it and I know why it can never work on a large scale even if biblically implemented. Why? Simple - because it implies the free will and choice of all the members of the society which will never happen. That's why it will always turn in dictatorship regardless of the best intentions of the leadership. You cannot force the sheep in the sheepyard, shoot the one trying to jump the fence and call them free.

China is not communist and never was. Neither was Russia or any other country so far. We've only experienced dictatorships masquerading as socialism. Without exception, these countries were led by political oligarchies that lived like aristocracy in luxury while the general population suffered.
China has a prosperous economy today but let's not forget that they are not facing the cold war and the economic blockade the socialist block faced until 1989. They rose because China was considered to be a huge source of cheap labor force and the government had the ability to exploit this position in an intelligent way. I don't recall any western company like Apple/Intel moving its production in USSR.

I do not consider this 'preaching' or 'teaching'. By the contrary, I welcome debate and counterarguments as I consider there can be no progress without conflict of ideas and I'm always adjusting my understanding and enlarging my own horizon by accepting a position that makes more sense than mine.

[KneelB4Zod!]

A large quantity of AFU military equipment destroyed due to RuAF storming pic.twitter.com/2GUnyGOFWT

— Trollstoy (@Trollstoy88) January 20, 2023

[KneelB4Zod!]

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[khnum]

You have a different opinion to mine but that is ok the world would be a boring place if we were all the same,which is exactly what the globalists want to turn us into forget Clinton,Trump,Obama,Bush,Biden the plan unfolding was first formulated 50 years ago the Politicians are just the Kabuki show puppets take WEF Youth leader Jacinda Adern's resignation the same week as Davos she didn't retire she was fired

I guess what I experienced during "socialism" was worse than others here.
Not personally though - I would say that I had quite a good life compared to the vast majority, somehow maybe even better than now. But the pain I saw around is not something to forget.

In history, there were always dark interests and agendas. What worries me most now is the drastic drop in human quality, intelligence, knowledge , self respect and empathy among the puppets leading the world in the past few decades. Looking at the world leaders today and comparing them to what we had 40-100 years ago is scary. Sometimes I think we are living some kind of experiment to see how much humanity can handle stupidity.

I agree with those sentiments man can display individual genius which is on display in art galleries and museums but collectively he is as stupid as a herd animal,in fact he is worse herd animals know when a predator is present the social engineers know this and have used the two inventions of the television and the smart phone to magnify this effect plus they have controlled the education system,I would fail my fathers senior exams and he his fathers the stupidification of mankind has been going on for at least a century as for leadership if you're only average all you have to do to look like a genius is surround yourself with idiots.

[Böhse Tante]

https://t.me/FreieLinkeOpenChat/15958

Old SEEDS - TRADE WITH OLD VARIETIES IS PROHIBITED!

Why are people who receive old seed-resistant crops criminalized? :

The answer: the super-rich want to get control over all food. They change them according to their ideas & take away every form of alternative from people. 

There are still old seeds, seeds of old varieties. 

It is resistant and can be reproduced wonderfully 
but you *may* not. 

There is a seed traffic law in Germany that prohibits the trade, exchange and transfer of old seeds. 

A law dating back to 1930, the Seed Traffic Act, is supposed to protect us. For this reason, only approved seeds may be distributed or given away.

Is this really meant to protect the consumer, or is it not rather to protect certain interests? Who benefits the most from the fact that old varieties do not go on sale?

There are many old varieties still full of important ingredients and they have not only been bred for size and yield. 
Why should we allow ourselves to be banned from healthy foods? So far, the state and a few large corporations are telling us what we can plant and eat. They are hiding behind the flimsy argument of consumer protection! 

Be sure to watch the video
Click here
youtu.be/zJt_L_hJI-Q

https://www.nutzpflanzenvielfalt.de/Saatgutliste/Suche

The next plans of the WEF & Bill Gates archive.is/kd8Wk
to control the population over genetically modified foods 
🥬
t.me/KatastrophenvorsorgeFL/779

mRNA-"vaccinations" will soon also be available in food
https://www.bionity.com/de/news/1172783/eigene-impfstoffe-anbauen-und-essen.html or archive.is/xA16G

List for clean seeds, feel free to Share! Seed-resistant seeds.
t.me/KatastrophenvorsorgeFL/715
t.me/KatastrophenvorsorgeFL/717

Please pay attention to WHERE you buy your seeds. 

Help to preserve the old varieties! 

Do not buy conventional seeds, hybrid seeds or seeds from Monsanto & Co.

We should strive for more independence from the system in the long term & plant our food ourselves again. we may have no other choice in the long term. It is important to preserve the old seed-resistant varieties, healthy food means freedom.

: PLEASE SHARE EVERYWHERE AND POST IN ALL GROUPS!

Please subscribe, spread everywhere, share
& always be crisis-proof
@KatastrophenvorsorgeFL


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There are so many "construction sites" where people have to take back control. The state or any corporations have a shit to care about what someone grows in their garden, neither what kind of fruits and vegetables someone grows, nor whether it is hemp or nettles. 

[KneelB4Zod!]

NOW - Protestors in front of the German Chancellery in Berlin chant, "Free the Leopards now!"pic.twitter.com/MgLYN1gYQJ

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) January 20, 2023

Ukrainian immigrants probably...

[khnum]

https://t.me/FreieLinkeOpenChat/15958

Old SEEDS - TRADE WITH OLD VARIETIES IS PROHIBITED!

Why are people who receive old seed-resistant crops criminalized? :

The answer: the super-rich want to get control over all food. They change them according to their ideas & take away every form of alternative from people. 

There are still old seeds, seeds of old varieties. 

It is resistant and can be reproduced wonderfully 
but you *may* not. 

There is a seed traffic law in Germany that prohibits the trade, exchange and transfer of old seeds. 

A law dating back to 1930, the Seed Traffic Act, is supposed to protect us. For this reason, only approved seeds may be distributed or given away.

Is this really meant to protect the consumer, or is it not rather to protect certain interests? Who benefits the most from the fact that old varieties do not go on sale?

There are many old varieties still full of important ingredients and they have not only been bred for size and yield. 
Why should we allow ourselves to be banned from healthy foods? So far, the state and a few large corporations are telling us what we can plant and eat. They are hiding behind the flimsy argument of consumer protection! 

Be sure to watch the video
Click here
youtu.be/zJt_L_hJI-Q

https://www.nutzpflanzenvielfalt.de/Saatgutliste/Suche

The next plans of the WEF & Bill Gates archive.is/kd8Wk
to control the population over genetically modified foods 
🥬
t.me/KatastrophenvorsorgeFL/779

mRNA-"vaccinations" will soon also be available in food
https://www.bionity.com/de/news/1172783/eigene-impfstoffe-anbauen-und-essen.html or archive.is/xA16G

List for clean seeds, feel free to Share! Seed-resistant seeds.
t.me/KatastrophenvorsorgeFL/715
t.me/KatastrophenvorsorgeFL/717

Please pay attention to WHERE you buy your seeds. 

Help to preserve the old varieties! 

Do not buy conventional seeds, hybrid seeds or seeds from Monsanto & Co.

We should strive for more independence from the system in the long term & plant our food ourselves again. we may have no other choice in the long term. It is important to preserve the old seed-resistant varieties, healthy food means freedom.

: PLEASE SHARE EVERYWHERE AND POST IN ALL GROUPS!

Please subscribe, spread everywhere, share
& always be crisis-proof
@KatastrophenvorsorgeFL


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There are so many "construction sites" where people have to take back control. The state or any corporations have a shit to care about what someone grows in their garden, neither what kind of fruits and vegetables someone grows, nor whether it is hemp or nettles. 

If you are buying seeds make sure you buy 'heirloom' seeds the major seed companies have GMO seeds which are only good for one generation this video is 2 hours but it is the most comprehensive presentation on the hostile global takeover of the worlds food supplies you will ever see.

[Böhse Tante]

https://t.me/FreieLinkeOpenChat/15966

"Why do we tolerate such bases as in #Ramstein on our territory?" The occupying power is doing what it wants with us #Nordstream It is not even considered necessary to place a German on German soil next to the US/Ukraine flags. The picture says more than 1000 words. #AmiGoHome #Leopard2

https://twitter.com/AfD2023/status/1616412939539423232?s=20&t=OyL9SyCtN8rmar0wRATPAg



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[KneelB4Zod!]

One week ago Macron was attacking Iran for “repressing protesters”. One week ago. This is France today. pic.twitter.com/A42O07foFg

— Hadi Nasrallah (@HadiNasrallah) January 20, 2023