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Post by KneelB4Zod! Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:38 am






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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by boris Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:59 pm

daily spectator wrote:
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That's not excuse for his "wrongdoings", my friend. It's just demise in the face of fact that is the system is rotten to the core and vultures cyrcling around the Hill are all the same...
Yes, the system is rotten, and the same vultures are cycling - you are right here.
But Trump was the only one, in the past 30 years at least, to tell things right and people voted him for that.
Others have tried and failed miserably, being crushed by the system. I know you remember Ron Paul and watch Tulsi.
He won, but he is powerless with everyone against him - democrats, republicans, government, FBI, CIA, military, MSM and social media - all were part of the same establishment. He was just impeached for attempting to prosecute the well-known crimes of Nuland, Biden, Clinton, Obama, Soros in Ukraine.
Truth is he doesn’t even have people support – those are the silent ones, the hard working people, the religious ones, the quiet ones that won’t take to the streets like the left activists do. His supporters only gather at official rallies, where they feel safe by numbers.

Did we expect Trump to keep all his promises - hell yes!
Did he deliver?
Not so much, but some steps are not to be ignored.
Do you realize that he wasn't even able to name his ambassadors? That they are blocked by the Senate (republican majority) for +2 years?
Do you think that he controls the FBI, CIA and US Army? I say, obviously not. Did anyone think he had an army of devoted and qualified people in his pocket and could have changed them overnight? Reality shows he had to make repeated nomination and even now does not have a loyal team, not even at the White House, and the whole world knows when he farts.
Could have he done better? Maybe, but given the circumstances he had to make compromises, or he wouldn't have lasted 3 months.

So, as one that fought some tough fights in life, I rather look at facts. And those are clear to me. Better relations with Russia despite theatricals. Soros type influence in countries around the world weakens despite massive capital infusion, media and social media bias.
Military actions? None. Trump is posturing, threatening but no aggressive actions taken. No war with North Korea, no war with Iran,actions in Syria minimal.

You blamed him for Sharyat. Wasn’t that obviously a PR stunt? With 29/59 rockets reaching targets? With almost no damage on Syria military? And when did this occur? In April 2017, when everyone was accusing him of colluding with Russia. With Obama CIA, FBI and military structures. Everyone was crying for intervention and he could not deny the CIA, MI6, SOHR and the other European stooges screams. He would have looked like a Russian puppet and give his enemies munition. I say that he did what he could – minimal intervention, minimal damage, maximum PR.
Did Trump contribute to the alliance between Kurds and Syrian Army or not? Isn’t that a step towards re-unification? Would that have been possible without him ordering the pull out? How many times did you hear him saying “Assad must go”?
Did we forget Susan Rice, Samantha Power or Nicky Haley rhetoric at UN? Do we hear anything similar today? Is it a step in the right direction or not?

One aspect I don’t like is the Israel bias. But again, I see reasons – first is the financial influence and second – more important today - is the fact that Netanyahu and the faction in power in Israel now is opposing the quasi omnipotent Soros-Rothschild-cabal group.
While most would like Trump to stand by all his campaign promises and to see open and total war against NWO, globalists and warmongers, I say that the little he has done is more in line with his promises than against them.

Do I trust him to do more? No. Do I hope he will? Yes.
One thing I know for sure though. If he falls, those rats drooling for world domination and war will return and what they did in Libya, Iraq, Egypt, Afghanistan, Syria, Serbia, Ukraine will keep repeating wherever they will see fit.


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keep dreaming. He was put in to power by the people who you think he is against.
Karl Rove was a major player in his 'rise' to power.
It seems you are drinking the kool-aid and asking for more.
Trump is a puppet and a fool. Please wake and realize anyone who is president is chosen by the real powers behind the scenes.
it is all a big play to divide the people and keep the sheep confused while they herd us into the slaughter yard.
you say all this the same week/month over 700,000 people ( that does not include the children of people cut off , so well over a million ) lost access to food stamps and the biggest ever 'defense' ( aka war ) budget was passed.
the money they saved cutting food stamps off for over a million people over 10 years is equal to less than 3 days of the war budget.
Get it yet?

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Russia plans 'sovereign internet' tests to combat external threats
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-putin-internet/russia-plans-sovereign-internet-tests-to-combat-external-threats-idUSKBN1YN23Z

Tulsi Gabbard has enemies in High Places
https://medium.com/@RobletoFire/tulsi-gabbard-has-enemies-in-high-places-6fa7da05284

Hard liner Christians distance from Trump.
'Profoundly immoral': Prominent evangelical Christian magazine calls for Trump’s removal
https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/profoundly-immoral-prominent-evangelical-christian-magazine-calls-for-trump-s-removal-20191220-p53lut.html
https://www.voanews.com/usa/evangelical-magazine-christianity-today-trump-must-go
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/19/trump-evangelical-christian-magazine-impeachment
Christianity Today magazine founded by the late Reverend Billy Graham that is influential with conservative evangelical Christians in the United States called on Thursday for President Donald Trump to be removed from office.

...the impeachment process has revealed 'too much' for Christianity Today.  lol Sleep

"We believe the impeachment hearings have made it absolutely clear, in a way the Mueller investigation did not, <<< insert excuse here  Twisted Evil
that President Trump has abused his authority for personal gain and betrayed his constitutional oath,"

"To the many evangelicals who continue to support Mr Trump in spite of his blackened moral record, we might say this:
Remember who you are and whom you serve,"
pig

This can never absolve the evangelicals.  Evil or Very Mad
They are and always have been apologists for the war pigs via tolerance or outright vocal support and pathetic attempts at biblical justification.
One has to look no further than Pence. spit.
no excuses should be given nor accepted. none.
This 'editorial' is a PERFECT example.
It is NOT 'repentance'... NOT a 'confession'.
simply an excuse. a 'we didn't know' 'retraction'.
I'll call it what it truly is:
a chess move; 'crisis management' among the 'What would Jesus Bomb' Christian circles of power and influence in DC.
Anyone of true faith knows and 'sees' through this blasphemy. eeyup.
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Hasaka, SANA- Turkish occupation forces on Thursday have transferred tens of terrorists and their families to Ras al-Ayn city in the context of its attempts to bring about demographic change which serves its aggressive agendas in Syria.

SANA reporter in Hasaka quoted local sources as saying that buses with over 300 of Turkish occupation mercenaries along with their women and children on board entered the city of Ras al-Ayn.

In Hasaka northern countryside, the Turkish occupation forces targeted with shells the surroundings of Abu Rasin town, in parallel the units of the Syrian Arab Army responded with appropriate weapons to the sources of the aggression, SANA reporter said.

In a relevant context, Turkish occupation forces have brought reinforcements to its illegitimate military base between Ras al-Ayn city and Alouk village, in parallel with bringing a number of troops and tanks carriers to Bridek countryside to Abu Rasin area north of Haska.


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Exactly.

STFU CNN bimbo
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lol...
reminds me of 'recent broadcast' from ENN Empire News Network

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Post by KneelB4Zod! Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:51 pm

From recently liberated areas in Idlib:


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Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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#Turkey's Erdogan slams #Libya's #Haftar, says he cannot keep silent on Russian mercenaries https://aml.ink/abgUc #Russia

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by daily spectator Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:48 pm

boris wrote:

keep dreaming. He was put in to power by the people who you think he is against.
Karl Rove was a major player in his 'rise' to power.
It seems you are drinking the kool-aid and asking for more.
Trump is a puppet and a fool. Please wake and realize anyone who is president is chosen by the real powers behind the scenes.
it is all a big play to divide the people and keep the sheep confused while they herd us into the slaughter yard.
you say all this the same week/month over 700,000 people ( that does not include the children of people cut off , so well over a million )  lost access to food stamps and the biggest ever 'defense' ( aka war ) budget was passed.
the money they saved cutting food stamps off for over a million people over 10 years is equal to less than 3 days of the war budget.

Get it yet?

You must be young.
I am originally from Eastern Europe, I grew up until adulthood under communism, I had my family properties confiscated, I had family members imprisoned and a couple of them executed.
I know better than most what propaganda is as I learned it the hard way.
If your dream is the socialism and communism pushed in the world by the cabal that destroyed so many countries and generations keep it for yourself.
Just a piece of advice - nothing comes free in this world, in capitalism, socialism or communism - reflect on this and think about what one is giving up for the little he receives.

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Waiting for response from Ankara...

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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Post by Slovák Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:00 pm


Record number of people - 170,000 - evacuated in Moscow on Dec 19 over bomb threats
Anonymous bomb threats continued on Friday. So far, they have been received by approximately ten schools and a number of kindergartens,
http://www.interfax.com/newsinf.asp?pg=2&id=944562
Moscow's Christ the Savior Cathedral receives yet another bomb threat
http://www.interfax.com/newsinf.asp?id=944599


Visiting UK MPs offer condolences over Dec 19 shooting incident in Moscow
Russian Investigative Committee central office to look into shooting incident near FSB HQ
FSB requests Moscow City Court to extend U.S. citizen Whelan's arrest
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Post by Böhse Tante Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:18 pm

daily spectator wrote:
boris wrote:

keep dreaming. He was put in to power by the people who you think he is against.
Karl Rove was a major player in his 'rise' to power.
It seems you are drinking the kool-aid and asking for more.
Trump is a puppet and a fool. Please wake and realize anyone who is president is chosen by the real powers behind the scenes.
it is all a big play to divide the people and keep the sheep confused while they herd us into the slaughter yard.
you say all this the same week/month over 700,000 people ( that does not include the children of people cut off , so well over a million )  lost access to food stamps and the biggest ever 'defense' ( aka war ) budget was passed.
the money they saved cutting food stamps off for over a million people over 10 years is equal to less than 3 days of the war budget.

Get it yet?

You must be young.
I am originally from Eastern Europe, I grew up until adulthood under communism, I had my family properties confiscated, I had family members imprisoned and a couple of them executed.
I know better than most what propaganda is as I learned it the hard way.
If your dream is the socialism and communism pushed in the world by the cabal that destroyed so many countries and generations keep it for yourself.
Just a piece of advice - nothing comes free in this world, in capitalism, socialism or communism - reflect on this and think about what one is giving up for the little he receives.

"I am originally from Eastern Europe, I grew up until adulthood under communism"


If that were true, you wouldn't have called it communism. I don't believe you a single word, because what you tell here is pure US-propaganda - except you are from Poland or the Baltic countries.


"You must be young" - I know many old dumbasses and several intelligent youngsters ...

And I know what many US-fans want to sell me, how wonderful the neolib version of capitalism is. The same like in Germany.


Cool

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Post by KneelB4Zod! Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:19 pm

daily spectator wrote:
boris wrote:

keep dreaming. He was put in to power by the people who you think he is against.
Karl Rove was a major player in his 'rise' to power.
It seems you are drinking the kool-aid and asking for more.
Trump is a puppet and a fool. Please wake and realize anyone who is president is chosen by the real powers behind the scenes.
it is all a big play to divide the people and keep the sheep confused while they herd us into the slaughter yard.
you say all this the same week/month over 700,000 people ( that does not include the children of people cut off , so well over a million )  lost access to food stamps and the biggest ever 'defense' ( aka war ) budget was passed.
the money they saved cutting food stamps off for over a million people over 10 years is equal to less than 3 days of the war budget.

Get it yet?

You must be young.
I am originally from Eastern Europe, I grew up until adulthood under communism, I had my family properties confiscated, I had family members imprisoned and a couple of them executed.
I know better than most what propaganda is as I learned it the hard way.
If your dream is the socialism and communism pushed in the world by the cabal that destroyed so many countries and generations keep it for yourself.
Just a piece of advice - nothing comes free in this world, in capitalism, socialism or communism - reflect on this and think about what one is giving up for the little he receives.

So do you believe that take away food stamps from the poorest people is anyhow beneficial for the US? It will rise criminality, that's the only result of this stupid measure. More criminality, more jailed people, more spendings on their feeding, dressing, guarding. Is that anyhow beneficial for the average American? Of course it is not. But it's very beneficial for companies running private prisons and private security companies. And you know who is Trump's good buddy, right...

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As a side note: It's quite possible that there are numbers of veterans, who fought wars of the globalist criminals, maybe some of them even Trump's wars already, who are reliant on the food stamps. And Trump just stole that from them. Because he needs to funnel billions uppon billins to the MIC. Go figure...

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Post by boris Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:57 pm

daily spectator wrote:
boris wrote:

keep dreaming. He was put in to power by the people who you think he is against.
Karl Rove was a major player in his 'rise' to power.
It seems you are drinking the kool-aid and asking for more.
Trump is a puppet and a fool. Please wake and realize anyone who is president is chosen by the real powers behind the scenes.
it is all a big play to divide the people and keep the sheep confused while they herd us into the slaughter yard.
you say all this the same week/month over 700,000 people ( that does not include the children of people cut off , so well over a million )  lost access to food stamps and the biggest ever 'defense' ( aka war ) budget was passed.
the money they saved cutting food stamps off for over a million people over 10 years is equal to less than 3 days of the war budget.

Get it yet?

You must be young.
I am originally from Eastern Europe, I grew up until adulthood under communism, I had my family properties confiscated, I had family members imprisoned and a couple of them executed.
I know better than most what propaganda is as I learned it the hard way.
If your dream is the socialism and communism pushed in the world by the cabal that destroyed so many countries and generations keep it for yourself.
Just a piece of advice - nothing comes free in this world, in capitalism, socialism or communism - reflect on this and think about what one is giving up for the little he receives.

my age has nothing to do with it but i am not young.
if you know so much about propaganda why are you believing all the trump stuff?
i mentioned nothing about socialism or communism but what do you can a defense budget? is it not the biggest socialist program in the world? ever?
food stamps are a sign of capitalism failing. a lot of the people getting cut off work, some work more than more one job but still cant afford food. i guess maybe because most of their money is going to fund that defense budget.
maybe one day we will have true socialism but i doubt it.
remember 3 guys have more wealth than bottom 50% of the world.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/noahkirsch/2017/11/09/the-3-richest-americans-hold-more-wealth-than-bottom-50-of-country-study-finds/#18eb79293cf8
Who did trump give the tax break to?
Who are members of Trump's team?
One of them is the sister to the guy Zod posted the picture off and she is running education!

Get it yet?

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Post by anon0 Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:43 pm

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I am originally from Eastern Europe, I grew up until adulthood under communism, I had my family properties confiscated, I had family members imprisoned and a couple of them executed.

just a quick questions:

1. why were your family properties confiscated ? there has to be some kind of court order with a reason given in the document

2. why were your family members imprisoned and a couple of them executed ? if they were in prison there was some kind of legal procedure. what was the reason given in judgement ?

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Post by daily spectator Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:56 pm

Böhse Tante wrote:

"I am originally from Eastern Europe, I grew up until adulthood under communism"


If that were true, you wouldn't have called it communism. I don't believe you a single word, because what you tell here is pure US-propaganda - except you are from Poland or the Baltic countries.


"You must be young" - I know many old dumbasses and several intelligent youngsters ...

And I know what many US-fans want to sell me, how wonderful the neolib version of capitalism is. The same like in Germany.


Cool

I'm not asking anyone to believe anything.
I'm just telling others to judge for themselves with their own minds, read, study and always question the propaganda they are fed with.
The story you're trying to sell me here about "true communism" and the fact that was never communism anywhere but just dictatorship, etc. and in fact communism is great and better for humanity is all crap.
And you know why? Because it is all nice and peachy on small communities where individuals choose to live like that based on their own free will, they are free to join, stay and live whenever they want.
That still works on some small, religion based communities. The moment you force people to join, you force them to live in a way they despise and you stop them from leaving, it becomes dictatorship. Dictatorship is communism inherent fate.
We are not born to be equal - we are wired to want more, to fight for more, to raise above others, to accumulate for us and ensure a better future for our offsprings. We are a greedy - from both a materialistic and idealistic perspective and communism does not eliminate greed. Here is a small but relevant clip with Milton Friedman on greed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A
You want to know where I'm from? From one of the countries with the shittiest "communist" experience in Europe - Romania, a regime close to the Chinese Cultural Revolution.
Did I personally have a bad life? No - I was among the lucky ones - I always had everything I needed, more than most, enjoyed the closer social relationships that the American capitalist society lacks, met some very intelligent people, scientists, writers, philosophers, very high priests, lived the benefits of a less stressful life where you don't worry about the future if you do what it takes and in a certain way, those were the best years of my life. But I know exactly what I'm talking about. I know what it means to be forced to keep your mouth shut, to be never allowed to express what you think, to be forced to bow and praise to the stupid. I have seen the general sadness in people, I lived it.
So - don't try to lecture me on the benefits of your utopian dream because I already saw the dark side of it.
The only thing good about communism is that it scared the shit out of the wild capitalism from the 19th century and forced it to become more human. They realized that you have to keep the slaves happy if you want to them to behave.

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Post by Böhse Tante Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:59 pm

@daily spectator

Thank you for your advice, I usually don't let others think for me. Especially not liars and assholes like Milton Friedman or Ayn Rand and others from the terror state. 

What we see now is a capitalism that doesn't want to keep the slaves happy any longer - and is also not longer able to do so. Within a few years around 50 % people will possibly be jobless - in another system they could work halftime, in this system you would let them starve. I wish you to become one of them, perhaps it could make you think.

From my side EOD.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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I would always chose for my kids a society where they have a 50% chance of success and freedom of choice - even one that only offers 10% or 5%.
It is one think to fail on your own choice and another to be doomed to fail by others.
They are free to chose communism as well is they feel like it. Some lessons are never learnt.
Socialism/communism offers no choice. It's either join the masses or go to prison if you're lucky to be left alive.
Let's not forget who pushed the communist ideology in the world and who paid to have it installed in Russia.

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daily spectator wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:

"I am originally from Eastern Europe, I grew up until adulthood under communism"


If that were true, you wouldn't have called it communism. I don't believe you a single word, because what you tell here is pure US-propaganda - except you are from Poland or the Baltic countries.


"You must be young" - I know many old dumbasses and several intelligent youngsters ...

And I know what many US-fans want to sell me, how wonderful the neolib version of capitalism is. The same like in Germany.


Cool

I'm not asking anyone to believe anything.
I'm just telling others to judge for themselves with their own minds, read, study and always question the propaganda they are fed with.
The story you're trying to sell me here about "true communism" and the fact that was never communism anywhere but just dictatorship, etc. and in fact communism is great and better for humanity is all crap.
And you know why? Because it is all nice and peachy on small communities where individuals choose to live like that based on their own free will, they are free to join, stay and live whenever they want.
That still works on some small, religion based communities. The moment you force people to join, you force them to live in a way they despise and you stop them from leaving, it becomes dictatorship. Dictatorship is communism inherent fate.
We are not born to be equal - we are wired to want more, to fight for more, to raise above others, to accumulate for us and ensure a better future for our offsprings. We are a greedy - from both a materialistic and idealistic perspective and communism does not eliminate greed. Here is a small but relevant clip with Milton Friedman on greed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A
You want to know where I'm from? From one of the countries with the shittiest "communist" experience in Europe - Romania, a regime close to the Chinese Cultural Revolution.
Did I personally have a bad life? No - I was among the lucky ones - I always had everything I needed, more than most, enjoyed the closer social relationships that the American capitalist society lacks, met some very intelligent people, scientists, writers, philosophers, very high priests, lived the benefits of a less stressful life where you don't worry about the future if you do what it takes and in a certain way, those were the best years of my life. But I know exactly what I'm talking about. I know what it means to be forced to keep your mouth shut, to be never allowed to express what you think, to be forced to bow and praise to the stupid. I have seen the general sadness in people, I lived it.
So - don't try to lecture me on the benefits of your utopian dream because I already saw the dark side of it.
The only thing good about communism is that it scared the shit out of the wild capitalism from the 19th century and forced it to become more human. They realized that you have to keep the slaves happy if you want to them to behave.

Here I have to agree on the most you wrote. When I thought about communism I came to exactly same conclusion. I thought about Amishes, who, in fact, live in communism (plus religion). Or Buddhist monks. Or some closed communities. Difficult to introduce such system in major population. Probably impossible.

Also I completely agree with your "good about communism". And I'm afraid today's capitalists, who transformed in some kind of self-proclaimed global elite, need to face the same as their 19th century predecessors faced. They went too far. You wrote " I know what it means to be forced to keep your mouth shut". Isn't that what all the YT and FB and Twitter censorship is about again? All those anti-hate speech, andit-BSD, anti-alternative media, anti-whistleblowers laws. Persecution of investigative journalists, anti-war activists. If you really have seen what I've seen then you know nothing changed at all. Methods are more sophisticated, tyrants gave the plebs more games and bread "you have to keep the slaves happy". But, also, they want much more then their predecessors.

Btw, I wrote my opinion on the food stamps. Just curious what do you think.

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daily spectator wrote:I would always chose for my kids a society where they have a 50% chance of success and freedom of choice - even one that only offers 10% or 5%.
It is one think to fail on your own choice and another to be doomed to fail by others.
They are free to chose communism as well is they feel like it. Some lessons are never learnt.
Socialism/communism offers no choice. It's either join the masses or go to prison if you're lucky to be left alive.
Let's not forget who pushed the communist ideology in the world and who paid to have it installed in Russia.

It's either join the masses
But this is exactly what is democracy about. Join the majority (thus masses) or go to jail. So what's the difference? Illusion of free elections?

Let's not forget who pushed the communist ideology in the world and who paid to have it installed in Russia.




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